Comments on: Glock Gen4 Unveiled! http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:38:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tommy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-77083 Tommy Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:37:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-77083 I just purchased a Glock 21 Gen 4 and Glock 17 Gen 4 and all initaial problem have been resolved. Both pistols operate fine and fieldstrip with no problems. The Gen 4's feel a bit stiffer when fieldstripped but there are no hangups like some have stated before. The G-21 Gen 4 feels especially nice, better than the Gen 3 version ! The frame seems like it has a bit less of a slope angle in the grip which is actually a good thing. When I had a Gen 3 21 it just never felt quite right . The Gen 4, 21 feels awesome to hold, like an extension of your arm ! As for the 17 there's no difference in grip angle, just texture feel. At first the slide looked like it was narrower to me but that's because the frame on the Gen 4-17 is wider to compensate for the new recoil spring. It didn't take long for Glock to work out the bugs in the new Gen 4 line. I think they have a good thing going with the new pistols. They will probably continue to have the two types of frame styles though to cater to the public's different tastes. Only they will be updated to Gen 4 internal and operational parts. Some folks still prefer the smoother frame, and I don't think Glock wants to lose those customers. I wonder what the Gen 5's are going to look like 10 years from now ? I just purchased a Glock 21 Gen 4 and Glock 17 Gen 4 and all initaial problem have been resolved. Both pistols operate fine and fieldstrip with no problems. The Gen 4′s feel a bit stiffer when fieldstripped but there are no hangups like some have stated before. The G-21 Gen 4 feels especially nice, better than the Gen 3 version ! The frame seems like it has a bit less of a slope angle in the grip which is actually a good thing. When I had a Gen 3 21 it just never felt quite right . The Gen 4, 21 feels awesome to hold, like an extension of your arm ! As for the 17 there’s no difference in grip angle, just texture feel. At first the slide looked like it was narrower to me but that’s because the frame on the Gen 4-17 is wider to compensate for the new recoil spring. It didn’t take long for Glock to work out the bugs in the new Gen 4 line. I think they have a good thing going with the new pistols. They will probably continue to have the two types of frame styles though to cater to the public’s different tastes. Only they will be updated to Gen 4 internal and operational parts. Some folks still prefer the smoother frame, and I don’t think Glock wants to lose those customers. I wonder what the Gen 5′s are going to look like 10 years from now ?

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]]> By: Gil http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-56742 Gil Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:24:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-56742 It's okay if they will cease the sale of glock gen 3, as long as the parts of gen 4 will be compatible with the gen 3.... It’s okay if they will cease the sale of glock gen 3, as long as the parts of gen 4 will be compatible with the gen 3….

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]]> By: Justin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-46651 Justin Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:31:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-46651 I live in Stockbridge Ga. and I shop and know Ed personally at Ed's Public Safety. Everything they do is complete straight up and down, I'm talking on my own behalf but I'm sure the pic's of the G22gen4 would have been cleared by Glock so they are able to promote more (Glock that is). Did you have that Glock sent Lee R Ermey to do a two day clinic at the store? (Didn't think so). Before you post something like that again all I'm saying is just to do little research and maybe, I don't know......CALL THE STORE (lol), like I said these are really good people and Ed will just about break his back to find you what you want and at the best price as well. A loyal coustomer, (because they turned me into one) Justin I live in Stockbridge Ga. and I shop and know Ed personally at Ed’s Public Safety. Everything they do is complete straight up and down, I’m talking on my own behalf but I’m sure the pic’s of the G22gen4 would have been cleared by Glock so they are able to promote more (Glock that is). Did you have that Glock sent Lee R Ermey to do a two day clinic at the store? (Didn’t think so). Before you post something like that again all I’m saying is just to do little research and maybe, I don’t know……CALL THE STORE (lol), like I said these are really good people and Ed will just about break his back to find you what you want and at the best price as well.
A loyal coustomer, (because they turned me into one)
Justin

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]]> By: James Harper http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-43060 James Harper Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:49:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-43060 I pre-ordered a gen4 Glock23 in July 2010.As the 23 has yet to be released,is there a problem with the 23 model. I pre-ordered a gen4 Glock23 in July 2010.As the 23 has yet to be released,is there a problem with the 23 model.

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]]> By: Ron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-40158 Ron Sun, 08 Aug 2010 04:42:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-40158 I work at Academy Sport. We have for 540 I think. They may have gone down by now. Not really much difference IMO. I work at Academy Sport. We have for 540 I think. They may have gone down by now. Not really much difference IMO.

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]]> By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-38813 John Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:54:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-38813 Generation 4 Glock subcompacts need the receiver picatinny mount rail for the micro-battery laser points as well as the ambidextrous magazine release feature. interchangeable backstraps are not really necessar for subcompacts. awaiting the release of a subcompact Glock with all these features. Generation 4 Glock subcompacts need the receiver picatinny mount rail for the micro-battery laser points as well as the ambidextrous magazine release feature. interchangeable backstraps are not really necessar for subcompacts. awaiting the release of a subcompact Glock with all these features.

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]]> By: Law Enforcement http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-38083 Law Enforcement Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:35:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-38083 The new Gen 4's are now being made in .357 Sig. I just found out today on the GlockTalk forum thread here http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1240445 discussing the new Gen 4 31's coming off the production line and apparently this blokes first 2,000 are going to LE agencies in Florida. The new Gen 4′s are now being made in .357 Sig. I just found out today on the GlockTalk forum thread here http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1240445 discussing the new Gen 4 31′s coming off the production line and apparently this blokes first 2,000 are going to LE agencies in Florida.

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]]> By: tsihcrana http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-33277 tsihcrana Tue, 11 May 2010 07:00:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-33277 I've had nothing but problems with my Gen4 17. The captive dual recoil spring assembly seems to be poorly executed and the spring rate is much too high for 9x19. I did not encounter malfunctions until I purposefully decreased my grip strength (not exactly a limp wrist, either). This led to a FTF or a FTE every 3-4 rounds, using a range of 115, 124 and 147 gr ammunition. I have been unable to reproduce the same frequency of malfunction while using an even lesser amount of grip with the G26. The 26 keeps ticking while the Gen 4 chokes. Simply put, the spring rate seems to be overwhelming to standard pressure 9mm ammunition. Those of you running +P may have better luck. The new dual recoil spring system also caused reassembly problems and exhibited strange behavior during field stripping. Unlike the G26, the Gen 4 17's inner recoil spring is not fully shrouded by a sleeve. The open two piece design of the Gen4 allows the outer spring to become trapped in the sleeve while it is compressed during reassembly which prevents the slide from locking on the frame. The Gen4 doesn't really inspire much confidence for duty considerations. Aside from the pretty shabby captive recoil spring assembly though, it's a pretty solid piece. Grip texture and mag release are nice upgrades. Too bad they had to "fix" the recoil spring. I'm sticking with Gen3 for now. I’ve had nothing but problems with my Gen4 17. The captive dual recoil spring assembly seems to be poorly executed and the spring rate is much too high for 9×19. I did not encounter malfunctions until I purposefully decreased my grip strength (not exactly a limp wrist, either). This led to a FTF or a FTE every 3-4 rounds, using a range of 115, 124 and 147 gr ammunition.

I have been unable to reproduce the same frequency of malfunction while using an even lesser amount of grip with the G26. The 26 keeps ticking while the Gen 4 chokes. Simply put, the spring rate seems to be overwhelming to standard pressure 9mm ammunition. Those of you running +P may have better luck.

The new dual recoil spring system also caused reassembly problems and exhibited strange behavior during field stripping. Unlike the G26, the Gen 4 17′s inner recoil spring is not fully shrouded by a sleeve. The open two piece design of the Gen4 allows the outer spring to become trapped in the sleeve while it is compressed during reassembly which prevents the slide from locking on the frame.

The Gen4 doesn’t really inspire much confidence for duty considerations. Aside from the pretty shabby captive recoil spring assembly though, it’s a pretty solid piece. Grip texture and mag release are nice upgrades. Too bad they had to “fix” the recoil spring. I’m sticking with Gen3 for now.

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]]> By: Joe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-33141 Joe Mon, 10 May 2010 03:30:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-33141 A thumb safety can get you killed. When drawing from a holster, from concealment, not having a safety to fight is a major plus. I understand that for people who do not train as intensively, and just buy it and stick it in a drawer or better yet a safe, a thumb safety is a good idea. For professionals, the only safety we need is our brain and our finger. If you honestly do not feel safety without a thumb safety, you are not training properly. A thumb safety can get you killed. When drawing from a holster, from concealment, not having a safety to fight is a major plus. I understand that for people who do not train as intensively, and just buy it and stick it in a drawer or better yet a safe, a thumb safety is a good idea. For professionals, the only safety we need is our brain and our finger. If you honestly do not feel safety without a thumb safety, you are not training properly.

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]]> By: Heath http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-31873 Heath Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:29:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-31873 Today I was able to hold one of these. A buddy of mine is a MO state HP and they're now swapping out their Gen 3's for these new Gen 4's. And for the first time in quite a while the MO state HP is having the badge number of the HP, the "MSHP" and a small version of their badge added to the slide. It wasn't engraved so I assume it was added with a laser. Anyway, I much prefer the feel of the grip on this gen 4 over my gen 3. It's not as rough and likely wouldn't be as hard on my hands as the gen 3 after prolonged target practice. He had the medium grip installed on his pistol. Unfortunately I didn't have my Glock with me to compare the feel. He is happy with it and was pretty excited to have have his badge number on his pistol. When they trade in their pistols again he intends to buy this one from the state. Today I was able to hold one of these. A buddy of mine is a MO state HP and they’re now swapping out their Gen 3′s for these new Gen 4′s. And for the first time in quite a while the MO state HP is having the badge number of the HP, the “MSHP” and a small version of their badge added to the slide. It wasn’t engraved so I assume it was added with a laser.

Anyway, I much prefer the feel of the grip on this gen 4 over my gen 3. It’s not as rough and likely wouldn’t be as hard on my hands as the gen 3 after prolonged target practice. He had the medium grip installed on his pistol. Unfortunately I didn’t have my Glock with me to compare the feel.

He is happy with it and was pretty excited to have have his badge number on his pistol. When they trade in their pistols again he intends to buy this one from the state.

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]]> By: Kev http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-30586 Kev Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:28:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-30586 I just picked my gen4 Glock 22 up, I like the "feel" of the new gen4 Glock22. A modern Tupperware "gunfighter's" gun, she's may not be the most sexy looking but she sure can stay in the mix. Check out the GSSF website and get a Glock deal. Be safe. I just picked my gen4 Glock 22 up, I like the “feel” of the new gen4 Glock22. A modern Tupperware “gunfighter’s” gun, she’s may not be the most sexy looking but she sure can stay in the mix. Check out the GSSF website and get a Glock deal. Be safe.

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]]> By: Firefighter299 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-30146 Firefighter299 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:02:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-30146 Go online to the Glock website. Sign up for membership in the" Glock Sport Shooting Foundation. The cost for a one yearmembership is $35. Renewal is $25. Just joining is well worth the cost. Among other things you will be sent a plastic membership card. Locate a participating dealer in your area and tell him that you are a member of GSSF and give him your membership number and what you are interested in. That is it. You will get a very special rate just by being a member. I purchased my Gen 4 G22 at a gunshop and Glock dealer in Clinton Md. They cater to law enforcement, but they would also be glad to get your business I'm sure. Go online to the Glock website. Sign up for membership in the” Glock Sport Shooting Foundation. The cost for a one yearmembership is $35. Renewal is $25. Just joining is well worth the cost. Among other things you will be sent a plastic membership card. Locate a participating dealer in your area and tell him that you are a member of GSSF and give him your membership number and what you are interested in. That is it. You will get a very special rate just by being a member. I purchased my Gen 4 G22 at a gunshop and Glock dealer in Clinton Md. They cater to law enforcement, but they would also be glad to get your business I’m sure.

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]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-30100 Carl Sun, 04 Apr 2010 13:19:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-30100 $425, where? With discount or without? $425, where?
With discount or without?

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]]> By: firefighter299 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-30088 firefighter299 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 20:01:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-30088 I just purchased a Gen.4 G22 last week. I paid $425 for it, new in the box including all the extras. I don't know what some folks are talking about. $700., no way. I just purchased a Gen.4 G22 last week. I paid $425 for it, new in the box including all the extras. I don’t know what some folks are talking about. $700., no way.

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]]> By: Glock http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29939 Glock Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:04:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29939 Did glock come out with more Gen 4's i thought it was olny the 17 and 22 where did you find the 19 at? Did glock come out with more Gen 4′s i thought it was olny the 17 and 22 where did you find the 19 at?

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]]> By: glocknewb http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29835 glocknewb Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:27:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29835 I just ordered a gen 4 glock 19 with factory night sights for $585 so I don't know what their talking about when they say it'll cost 700. I can't wait to get it this Friday when it comes in. This will be my first pistol, and I'm excited to see what the difference in the grip is. I've held plenty of glocks, and they all feel big in the hand. The new generation seems to have a better grip. looking forward to it. I'll post again when I get it. I just ordered a gen 4 glock 19 with factory night sights for $585 so I don’t know what their talking about when they say it’ll cost 700. I can’t wait to get it this Friday when it comes in. This will be my first pistol, and I’m excited to see what the difference in the grip is. I’ve held plenty of glocks, and they all feel big in the hand. The new generation seems to have a better grip. looking forward to it. I’ll post again when I get it.

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]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29606 Carl Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:16:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29606 James, no. Bass: As for gen3 or gen4; for a defensive weapon I'd stay with the 3rd gen for now. You never know what bugs might appear on a new design. As for the new recoil spring making the gen4 guns last longer: The gen3 lasts long enough for this to be a very theoretical issue. Make sure you get a vanilla version though. Stay away from the RTF frame and the ambi mag release. James, no.

Bass: As for gen3 or gen4; for a defensive weapon I’d stay with the 3rd gen for now. You never know what bugs might appear on a new design.

As for the new recoil spring making the gen4 guns last longer: The gen3 lasts long enough for this to be a very theoretical issue.

Make sure you get a vanilla version though. Stay away from the RTF frame and the ambi mag release.

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]]> By: James Kelly http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29571 James Kelly Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:25:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29571 Apologize for my ignorance, but do any of the Glock models, of whatever generation, have magazine disconnects? Apologize for my ignorance, but do any of the Glock models, of whatever generation, have magazine disconnects?

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]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29516 Mike Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:57:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29516 To all, I am glad to know that so many people are as passionate about our right to own guns as I am. My 2 cents about Gen 4 Glocks...... I own a 23 Gen 3 and love it!!! I probally will buy a Gen 4 because I am just simply a Glock fan. As for the "Natural" grip angle everyone keeps whining about, just shoot the Gun Mfg of your choice and support your "Brothers & Sisters" in arms. Let's just focus on keeping our Right to Bear Arms and the right to choose. Aim straight, shoot alot, & be safe. God Bless You All !!!!!! To all,

I am glad to know that so many people are as passionate about our right to own guns as I am.
My 2 cents about Gen 4 Glocks……
I own a 23 Gen 3 and love it!!! I probally will buy a Gen 4 because I am just simply a Glock fan. As for the “Natural” grip angle everyone keeps whining about, just shoot the Gun Mfg of your choice and support your “Brothers & Sisters” in arms. Let’s just focus on keeping our Right to Bear Arms and the right to choose. Aim straight, shoot alot, & be safe.

God Bless You All !!!!!!

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]]> By: Heath http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-29294 Heath Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:01:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=10199#comment-29294 Bass, a friend of mine is a HP officer here in MO. They're issued a 3rd Gen and there are enough complaints about the grip tearing up uniforms that they're citing it as a reason to upgrade to the 4th Gen. Bass,

a friend of mine is a HP officer here in MO. They’re issued a 3rd Gen and there are enough complaints about the grip tearing up uniforms that they’re citing it as a reason to upgrade to the 4th Gen.

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