Comments on: Bersa BP9 and BP40 Concealed Carry http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Darryll http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-74104 Darryll Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:31:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-74104 En Argentina, en donde no tenemos la capacidad adquisitiva que en promedio existe en paises mas desarrollados, Bersa siempre, pero siempre fué una pistola a la que sin lugar a dudas recurrimos esperando confiabilidad. La garantía es de por vida, y Yo nunca escuché de un encasquillamiento. Tira cualquier cosa, nunca se encascilla y los sistemas son simples. Como decía mi Abuelo, si es "Bueno" y es "Simple"...., "Doblemente Bueno".- En Argentina, en donde no tenemos la capacidad adquisitiva que en promedio existe en paises mas desarrollados, Bersa siempre, pero siempre fué una pistola a la que sin lugar a dudas recurrimos esperando confiabilidad. La garantía es de por vida, y Yo nunca escuché de un encasquillamiento. Tira cualquier cosa, nunca se encascilla y los sistemas son simples.
Como decía mi Abuelo, si es “Bueno” y es “Simple”…., “Doblemente Bueno”.-

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]]> By: javier http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-58462 javier Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:22:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-58462 es para preguntar cundo va a salir a la venta y cuanto va a ser el precio aca en la argentina si puede ser que me contesten en castellano es para preguntar cundo va a salir a la venta y cuanto va a ser el precio aca en la argentina si puede ser que me contesten en castellano

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]]> By: Robert http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-54762 Robert Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:02:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-54762 I like the fact that Bersa is following the market by now making a Polymer handgun. They have had ample time to review flaws and mistakes by other gun manufactures over a number of years when It comes to construction and marketing. I also like the fact that they are trying to be more competitive in the conceal carry market. I am a small skinny guy and have a hard time concealing anything with a caliber that makes a difference. At this time I carry a Kel-tec PF9 ( which carries like a dream with the belt clip) and a Glock 27 (which is bulky, but has the knock down power I prefer over the two). I do like the reputation of the KAHR line up, but they are a little out of my price range. So with this, I am watching the Bersa BP with great interest. I also understand that any new handgun has flaws that will be corrected with future models, just as the Kel-tec PF9. Right now, a 40S&W with similar size as a PF9 is very interesting to me! Also, I am not one who will condemn any brand name. My thoughts on this are "If it works for me thats fine. If it doesn't, I will simply find something that does. I like the fact that Bersa is following the market by now making a Polymer handgun. They have had ample time to review flaws and mistakes by other gun manufactures over a number of years when It comes to construction and marketing. I also like the fact that they are trying to be more competitive in the conceal carry market. I am a small skinny guy and have a hard time concealing anything with a caliber that makes a difference. At this time I carry a Kel-tec PF9 ( which carries like a dream with the belt clip) and a Glock 27 (which is bulky, but has the knock down power I prefer over the two). I do like the reputation of the KAHR line up, but they are a little out of my price range. So with this, I am watching the Bersa BP with great interest. I also understand that any new handgun has flaws that will be corrected with future models, just as the Kel-tec PF9. Right now, a 40S&W with similar size as a PF9 is very interesting to me! Also, I am not one who will condemn any brand name. My thoughts on this are “If it works for me thats fine. If it doesn’t, I will simply find something that does.

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]]> By: Rick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-40998 Rick Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:17:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-40998 looking forward to holding one looking forward to holding one

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]]> By: elmo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-40623 elmo Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:29:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-40623 When is this gun gonna ship? Next year 2011? Come on already Bersa get with it. When is this gun gonna ship? Next year 2011? Come on already Bersa get with it.

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]]> By: Cory http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-28205 Cory Sun, 07 Mar 2010 04:06:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-28205 The BP-9 and 40 specs are almost exactly that of the Kahr P-9 and P-40. I own a Kahr p-9 and have carried it for years. I love it! If Bersa retains the quality that I have seen in there other pistols. This would be a no brainer purchase if the price point remains reasonable. The size for CC is ideal. This is a very thin pistol at .94 in comparison to most. I believe they will be going head to head with Kahr as well as the others. Maybe more so than the others. I know I am holding off on another purchase of a Kahr for my wife until I see the quality of the BP-9. And if it holds up to the quality that I have seen in the Bersa line up. I believe it will be a easy choice. CD The BP-9 and 40 specs are almost exactly that of the Kahr P-9 and P-40.
I own a Kahr p-9 and have carried it for years. I love it!

If Bersa retains the quality that I have seen in there other pistols. This would be a no brainer purchase if the price point remains reasonable. The size for CC is ideal. This is a very thin pistol at .94 in comparison to most. I believe they will be going head to head with Kahr as well as the others. Maybe more so than the others.

I know I am holding off on another purchase of a Kahr for my wife until I see the quality of the BP-9. And if it holds up to the quality that I have seen in the Bersa line up. I believe it will be a easy choice.

CD

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]]> By: DRod http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21738 DRod Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:04:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21738 Ill stick to my tried and true G19, thank you. I would like to get some booger hook time on one though, if only to form a fairer opinion of it. Ill stick to my tried and true G19, thank you.
I would like to get some booger hook time on one though, if only to form a fairer opinion of it.

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]]> By: AJ187 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21718 AJ187 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:10:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21718 Some of us actually like those "anti" features as strange as that sounds. But a lock on a gun makes a gun a little more convenient to store. In fact I keep a Bersa cocked and chambered with the internal lock in place. And I've heard no reports of problems on any Bersa's internal locking system so the S&W reports people bring up must be a problem exclusive to S&W. As for the magazine disconnect safetys which have been so popular on bersa's of the past, I think a weapons retention problem will be more likely than having to dump a loose round in the chamber to shoot or shoot during a tactical reload. So deactivating a gun in that manner seems more tactful to me than anything else, so these are good reasons to buy the new bersa. Or one of many guns that have those features. Some of us actually like those “anti” features as strange as that sounds. But a lock on a gun makes a gun a little more convenient to store. In fact I keep a Bersa cocked and chambered with the internal lock in place. And I’ve heard no reports of problems on any Bersa’s internal locking system so the S&W reports people bring up must be a problem exclusive to S&W.

As for the magazine disconnect safetys which have been so popular on bersa’s of the past, I think a weapons retention problem will be more likely than having to dump a loose round in the chamber to shoot or shoot during a tactical reload. So deactivating a gun in that manner seems more tactful to me than anything else, so these are good reasons to buy the new bersa. Or one of many guns that have those features.

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]]> By: NatefromOgden http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21629 NatefromOgden Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:36:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21629 @Jim: I have and carry a PF-9 and love it. I did have to replace the magazine catch after I bought the gun used- $5 and 10 minutes but it has fed everything that fits in the magazine without fail. It's accurate enough for the defensive task and I have no reservations about using it for my carry gun. I use a Crossbreed IWB, tuckable holster for carry and even my wife doesn't know when I have it around her. Recently Kel-Tec did add a metal magazine catch to their website as a replacement part and I would recommend swapping out any plastic one you find. @Jim: I have and carry a PF-9 and love it. I did have to replace the magazine catch after I bought the gun used- $5 and 10 minutes but it has fed everything that fits in the magazine without fail. It’s accurate enough for the defensive task and I have no reservations about using it for my carry gun. I use a Crossbreed IWB, tuckable holster for carry and even my wife doesn’t know when I have it around her.

Recently Kel-Tec did add a metal magazine catch to their website as a replacement part and I would recommend swapping out any plastic one you find.

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]]> By: Heath http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21583 Heath Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:54:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21583 Those anti features are a detractor for me and will keep me from buying one. Those anti features are a detractor for me and will keep me from buying one.

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]]> By: Jim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21558 Jim Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:29:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21558 This might be a bit off topic, but does anyone own or have experience carrying a Kel-tec PF-9? I was looking at getting it for concealed carry and would like to talk to a person who has *used* one. This might be a bit off topic, but does anyone own or have experience carrying a Kel-tec PF-9? I was looking at getting it for concealed carry and would like to talk to a person who has *used* one.

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]]> By: Shankbone http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21557 Shankbone Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:22:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21557 JAFO, would that be a lighter and more compact Kel-Tec PF-9, holster, AND some ammo? JAFO, would that be a lighter and more compact Kel-Tec PF-9, holster, AND some ammo?

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]]> By: Vak http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21548 Vak Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:24:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21548 Sig 250, really ? When I saw it, I thought immediately of the ill-fated steyr M. Well, I guess I was wrong. Once again. Sig 250, really ? When I saw it, I thought immediately of the ill-fated steyr M. Well, I guess I was wrong.

Once again.

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]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21540 Carl Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:37:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21540 Striker or hammer fired? The Pafoa article mentions something about "safe action" and I can't see a hammer in the frame in any of the images. Here's hoping it isn't DAO. 24mm wide, sounds pretty slim, although some are even slimmer, Kel-Tec PF9 is 22mm (but not available in .40). BTW there are 9 cartridges in the image above, and that light makes no sense on a slim carry pistol... :) Striker or hammer fired? The Pafoa article mentions something about “safe action” and I can’t see a hammer in the frame in any of the images.
Here’s hoping it isn’t DAO.
24mm wide, sounds pretty slim, although some are even slimmer, Kel-Tec PF9 is 22mm (but not available in .40).
BTW there are 9 cartridges in the image above, and that light makes no sense on a slim carry pistol… :)

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]]> By: ericire12 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21528 ericire12 Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:43:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21528 I would think that the compact/subcompact designation would be more dictated on a company basis...based on whether or not they actually offer all three size variations. Otherwise, like Bersa is doing, they would just designate it as a concealed carry gun. The Glock 26 weighs in at 19.75 oz and has a barrel length of 3.46'', and they give it a subcompact designation. *I am very surprised by the limited capacity of these pistols, especially considering their weight and width. I would think that the compact/subcompact designation would be more dictated on a company basis…based on whether or not they actually offer all three size variations. Otherwise, like Bersa is doing, they would just designate it as a concealed carry gun.

The Glock 26 weighs in at 19.75 oz and has a barrel length of 3.46”, and they give it a subcompact designation.

*I am very surprised by the limited capacity of these pistols, especially considering their weight and width.

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]]> By: B Woodman http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21524 B Woodman Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:17:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21524 I'd like to see some serrations on the front of the slide. I’d like to see some serrations on the front of the slide.

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]]> By: David http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21521 David Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:31:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21521 The first thing that popped into my mind was the Steyr M40A1, not the P250. The first thing that popped into my mind was the Steyr M40A1, not the P250.

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]]> By: TyKreis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21518 TyKreis Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:20:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21518 I know the integral lock sucks, but in Maryland you HAVE to have it, or you have to buy an internal lock approved by the Maryland State Police and they generally run anywhere from $20-$100. So from a guy that lived in MD, thank God for that stupid integral lock! I know the integral lock sucks, but in Maryland you HAVE to have it, or you have to buy an internal lock approved by the Maryland State Police and they generally run anywhere from $20-$100. So from a guy that lived in MD, thank God for that stupid integral lock!

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]]> By: michael http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21514 michael Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:50:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21514 I have a Bersa UC9 and it's been absolutely reliable for a couple of years with no hiccups whatsoever. I think Bersa get's a bad rap because of it's price point but my uc9 is a vertual clone of the walther p88 which was a pretty good firearm in it's own right. Glad to see Bersa bringing something new to the world of firearms. I have a Bersa UC9 and it’s been absolutely reliable for a couple of years with no hiccups whatsoever. I think Bersa get’s a bad rap because of it’s price point but my uc9 is a vertual clone of the walther p88 which was a pretty good firearm in it’s own right. Glad to see Bersa bringing something new to the world of firearms.

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]]> By: War Wolf http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/14/bersa-bp9-and-bp40-concealed-carry/comment-page-1/#comment-21512 War Wolf Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:38:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9921#comment-21512 Bersa has a much better reputation for product reliability and service than does Taurus. I hope they did their homework on this model and priced it to sell. After all, $425 is only $75 shy of a NIB Glock 26/27. I'm not a Glockhead by any stretch but they do work well and are about as ubiquitous as cars that run on gasoline. If they were real world priced at $325 I think they will fly off the shelves barring any early manufacturing debacles or web-spread customer service horror stories. Bersa has a much better reputation for product reliability and service than does Taurus. I hope they did their homework on this model and priced it to sell. After all, $425 is only $75 shy of a NIB Glock 26/27. I’m not a Glockhead by any stretch but they do work well and are about as ubiquitous as cars that run on gasoline. If they were real world priced at $325 I think they will fly off the shelves barring any early manufacturing debacles or web-spread customer service horror stories.

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