Comments on: Steinkamp SW1: The bullpup double rifle / shotgun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: saint http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-81992 saint Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:12:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-81992 i want it in 577 tyrranosaur i want it in 577 tyrranosaur

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]]> By: KP http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-76536 KP Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:32:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-76536 ""where do they sell them in Australia?"" Haha! Next bad joke? They are instantly banned in this stupid country as Australia does not allow semi-autos in. In fact they have just banned the lever-action shotguns, ostensibly because they cannot pass the "sliding hammer" test, but in reality they hate the thought of any shotgun holding more than two rounds! That is a lovely combo- I'd like a couple, a .22/410 and a .223/12#... when we get sanity back into Govt. “”where do they sell them in Australia?”"

Haha! Next bad joke? They are instantly banned in this stupid country as Australia does not allow semi-autos in.

In fact they have just banned the lever-action shotguns, ostensibly because they cannot pass the “sliding hammer” test, but in reality they hate the thought of any shotgun holding more than two rounds!

That is a lovely combo- I’d like a couple, a .22/410 and a .223/12#… when we get sanity back into Govt.

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]]> By: Urshanabi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-72259 Urshanabi Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:25:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-72259 I really like the look of this, have been searching for something like this for awhile, I love the double shot gun, but its range and accuracy is terrible, so I thought dual rifle, but they're always so old fashioned big and heavy and need constant alignment, so I could always just go a traditional rifle, but I want to be able to shoot scrub turkeys as well as deer, and I really, really, really don't like walking round a forest with a loaded gun, that is just asking for an accident. looks like the problem is solved, now.... where do they sell them in Australia? I really like the look of this, have been searching for something like this for awhile, I love the double shot gun, but its range and accuracy is terrible, so I thought dual rifle, but they’re always so old fashioned big and heavy and need constant alignment, so I could always just go a traditional rifle, but I want to be able to shoot scrub turkeys as well as deer, and I really, really, really don’t like walking round a forest with a loaded gun, that is just asking for an accident. looks like the problem is solved, now…. where do they sell them in Australia?

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]]> By: KarlinPhoenix http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-29055 KarlinPhoenix Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:11:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-29055 To the design team: As a follow-up after watching the video, I would also like to see the action be made to cock itself when the butt-plate is closed so that it is instantly available to shoot, instead of having to perform the additional step of cocking the lever in front of the trigger. That extra step of having to cock the action after loading could mean the difference of life and death when a dangerous animal is moving at you at a speed of 30 miles per hour (44 feet per second). Think about it. To the design team: As a follow-up after watching the video, I would also like to see the action be made to cock itself when the butt-plate is closed so that it is instantly available to shoot, instead of having to perform the additional step of cocking the lever in front of the trigger.

That extra step of having to cock the action after loading could mean the difference of life and death when a dangerous animal is moving at you at a speed of 30 miles per hour (44 feet per second). Think about it.

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]]> By: KarlinPhoenix http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-29054 KarlinPhoenix Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:06:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-29054 To Keith (on 22 Nov 2009 at 7:24 am): Part of the 'retail price' of something covers the cost to develop the product, manufacture the machinery to make the product and the test, evaluate & re-design (as needed). By the way, you cannot get much of a double-barrel firearm for $500. To the design team: I would like to see double triggers and two firing mechanisms for reliability (which is the major purpose of a double-rifle for dangerous game). I would like to see the 'action-opening' lever at a different place (as some have already stated). A pair of 'ready-cartridge' loops for the first emergency relaod would be handy; to be loaded when the rifle is loaded. Nice to have ammo on the gun for quick access. Great looking product and I hope you do well with it. I am interested in the 9.3x74R caliber (.375). To Keith (on 22 Nov 2009 at 7:24 am):
Part of the ‘retail price’ of something covers the cost to develop the product, manufacture the machinery to make the product and the test, evaluate & re-design (as needed).

By the way, you cannot get much of a double-barrel firearm for $500.

To the design team: I would like to see double triggers and two firing mechanisms for reliability (which is the major purpose of a double-rifle for dangerous game). I would like to see the ‘action-opening’ lever at a different place (as some have already stated). A pair of ‘ready-cartridge’ loops for the first emergency relaod would be handy; to be loaded when the rifle is loaded. Nice to have ammo on the gun for quick access.

Great looking product and I hope you do well with it. I am interested in the 9.3x74R caliber (.375).

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]]> By: Anders http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-21450 Anders Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:31:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-21450 i have testfired one of these (rifle version) and they appears to be worth the money when it comes to accuracy and eae of use dont know how reliable they are. I shot 2 "mags" i have testfired one of these (rifle version) and they appears to be worth the money when it comes to accuracy and eae of use dont know how reliable they are. I shot 2 “mags”

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]]> By: J.S.Bridges http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-19678 J.S.Bridges Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:36:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-19678 Interesting, indeed... A fairly elegant - and VERY expensive - answer...to a question that a) no one really seems to be asking, and b) probably does not need to be asked to begin with. That "double trigger" that is used to open the action, however, can be easily seen to be a product-liability suit looking for a place to happen - makes it far too likely that the user will inadvertently open the action - thereby disabling the whole thing - just at the moment when a second or followup shot is most required. Trust a German company, in the end, to over-think and over-engineer almost anything... Interesting, indeed…

A fairly elegant – and VERY expensive – answer…to a question that a) no one really seems to be asking, and b) probably does not need to be asked to begin with.

That “double trigger” that is used to open the action, however, can be easily seen to be a product-liability suit looking for a place to happen – makes it far too likely that the user will inadvertently open the action – thereby disabling the whole thing – just at the moment when a second or followup shot is most required.

Trust a German company, in the end, to over-think and over-engineer almost anything…

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-19219 Steve Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:44:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-19219 Daniel, ah, thanks for that! Daniel, ah, thanks for that!

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]]> By: Daniel E. Watters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-19218 Daniel E. Watters Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:42:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-19218 The EPS link to the US patent application appears to be broken. Here is the Google link to the US patent: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=VeuzAAAAEBAJ The EPS link to the US patent application appears to be broken. Here is the Google link to the US patent:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=VeuzAAAAEBAJ

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]]> By: Jeff M http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18897 Jeff M Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:23:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18897 I had an idea for something similar to this in shape, I'd like to see a semi-automatic bullpup with a tubular magazine that fires .40 S&W (because of it's flat nose, it would stack up well), ejection would be downward. I had an idea for something similar to this in shape, I’d like to see a semi-automatic bullpup with a tubular magazine that fires .40 S&W (because of it’s flat nose, it would stack up well), ejection would be downward.

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]]> By: Komrad http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18839 Komrad Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:19:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18839 I like it. No need to spend 10 or 20 grand on aesthetics. 5 grand is a little expensive but it sure is cool. I like it. No need to spend 10 or 20 grand on aesthetics. 5 grand is a little expensive but it sure is cool.

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]]> By: bullzebub http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18782 bullzebub Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:14:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18782 keith: actually... big pieces of polymer can be rather expensive. because when you use injection moulding the larger the object the more faults you get. and that one is mabe of pretty much plastic! annoyingly much actually. if they made the body as 4 pieces (pistol grip, hand guard, "stock" and butt) they could probably reduce the price rather much. keith: actually… big pieces of polymer can be rather expensive. because when you use injection moulding the larger the object the more faults you get. and that one is mabe of pretty much plastic! annoyingly much actually. if they made the body as 4 pieces (pistol grip, hand guard, “stock” and butt) they could probably reduce the price rather much.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18750 Steve Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:13:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18750 Heath, I am not sure! Heath, I am not sure!

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18749 Steve Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:13:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18749 Heath, I am not sure. They can be mounted lower on the gun. Heath, I am not sure. They can be mounted lower on the gun.

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]]> By: Keith http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18743 Keith Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:24:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18743 It's made from modern polymers which means the main body probably does not cost much to actually make. It doesnt have that complicated an assembly since it's onyl a single shot dual barrel. I'm sorry, but this thing looks like it is barely worth $1000 let along $5000. I'd have to agree with the earlier poster. This thing's only real selling point is it's fanciness. I'd rather just spend 500 on a nice double barrel shotgun. It’s made from modern polymers which means the main body probably does not cost much to actually make.

It doesnt have that complicated an assembly since it’s onyl a single shot dual barrel.

I’m sorry, but this thing looks like it is barely worth $1000 let along $5000.

I’d have to agree with the earlier poster. This thing’s only real selling point is it’s fanciness. I’d rather just spend 500 on a nice double barrel shotgun.

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]]> By: Papa Whiskey http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18738 Papa Whiskey Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:31:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18738 The more I look at it, the more interesting it becomes. I'd love to see one in .470 Nitro Express. Although at 7.5 lbs. the entertainment would be in watching someone else shoot it! The more I look at it, the more interesting it becomes. I’d love to see one in .470 Nitro Express. Although at 7.5 lbs. the entertainment would be in watching someone else shoot it!

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]]> By: bullzebub http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18732 bullzebub Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:10:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18732 i must admit that i like the wood version better... i must admit that i like the wood version better…

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]]> By: Heath http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18731 Heath Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:51:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18731 Why are the optics mounted so high? Why are the optics mounted so high?

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18727 Mark Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:50:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18727 Patents: http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202008006401U1&KC=U1&FT=D&date=20080717&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202005009446U1&KC=U1&FT=D&date=20061026&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP both in german but with drawings --------------------------------------------- http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2008005951A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20080110&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP in english Patents:

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202008006401U1&KC=U1&FT=D&date=20080717&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP

http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202005009446U1&KC=U1&FT=D&date=20061026&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP

both in german but with drawings
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http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2008005951A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20080110&DB=EPODOC&locale=de_EP

in english

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]]> By: KP http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/21/steinkamp-sw1-the-bullpup-double-rifle-shotgun/comment-page-1/#comment-18722 KP Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:06:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9400#comment-18722 Looks like it's intended for Europeans looking for something modern/flashy. Looks like it’s intended for Europeans looking for something modern/flashy.

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