FN’s Black Box for Guns

picture 5 tfb FNs Black Box for Guns photo

This nifty gadget, made by FN Herstal, can be installed anywhere on a gun where it can be squeezed in, such as the pistol grip in the above photo. It can record shot count, firing sequences and more.

Read more about it at SayUncle.

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  1. Paul Arbouwwrote on December 01st, 2009 at 9:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Technology is increasingly becoming an integral part of firearms and/or their support systems. as the miniaturization of electronics continues you’ll see more and more interactive and smart devices become part of the firearm industry.

    The Blackbox (and similar systems) is interesting, especially when combines with other peripherals like the Moving Red Dot.

    http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=573

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  2. Greywrote on November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This actually could be very useful. As previously stated, it could help with preventive maintenance, but could also be tied into magazine ammunition count. If the sensor suite also contains accelerometers, it may be able to measure impulse, with data being used to tailor ammunition for consistency.

    As long as the data is both local and eraseable, this may not be a terrible thing, as long as use and installation is completely voluntary.

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  3. Daniel E. Watterswrote on November 21st, 2009 at 8:20 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    As far as I know, there has not been a contract award yet.

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  4. Daniel E. Watterswrote on November 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    SOCOM has had a weapon shot counter (WSC) requirement for quite awhile. The collected data will allow them to preemptively replace parts before they wear out and/or break.

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    • Steveresponded to Daniel E. Watters on November 20th, 2009 at 3:11 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Daniel, do you know whose system they used?

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  5. lolwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 8:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    well i will take them tomorow or on friday … i got to go to FN … :D
    I have some other Fn stuff to show u

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  6. Lancewrote on November 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Finally a gadget from FN thats useful. Is the grip modular in size?

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  7. Vakwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 7:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This is going to be an useful asset for SWAT Teams so they can count who shot what and when.

    On the other hand, civilian applications are rather limited.

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  8. lolwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 5:28 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    u want some pics of that ??? like with the gun and all ?

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    • Steveresponded to lol on November 19th, 2009 at 8:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      lol, if you have some, please sent them through. My email is on the contact page (link at the top).

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  9. Donwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 3:15 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    While many people’s instinct may be that this is a bad thing, I can see this really helping with maintenance scheduling for the military/police and I can see this actually helping the user in litigation rather than hurting them. Naturally this should not be a required item, but rather elective.

    My WAG is that it works by measuring acoustic signatures and classifying them with a bank of matched filters, or possibly it could contain a MEMs IMU to measure inertial modes. This would allow differentiation between a gun being fired nearby and the user’s weapon. The rest of it is most likely just standard digital counting to infer timing.

    A really basic version of something like this would be a good electrical engineering junior/senior design project.

    -Don

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  1. Daniel E. Watterswrote on November 21st, 2009 at 8:20 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    As far as I know, there has not been a contract award yet.

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  2. Greywrote on November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This actually could be very useful. As previously stated, it could help with preventive maintenance, but could also be tied into magazine ammunition count. If the sensor suite also contains accelerometers, it may be able to measure impulse, with data being used to tailor ammunition for consistency.

    As long as the data is both local and eraseable, this may not be a terrible thing, as long as use and installation is completely voluntary.

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  3. Paul Arbouwwrote on December 01st, 2009 at 9:48 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Technology is increasingly becoming an integral part of firearms and/or their support systems. as the miniaturization of electronics continues you’ll see more and more interactive and smart devices become part of the firearm industry.

    The Blackbox (and similar systems) is interesting, especially when combines with other peripherals like the Moving Red Dot.

    http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=573

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  4. Daniel E. Watterswrote on November 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    SOCOM has had a weapon shot counter (WSC) requirement for quite awhile. The collected data will allow them to preemptively replace parts before they wear out and/or break.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
    • Steveresponded to Daniel E. Watters on November 20th, 2009 at 3:11 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      Daniel, do you know whose system they used?

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  5. lolwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 8:46 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    well i will take them tomorow or on friday … i got to go to FN … :D
    I have some other Fn stuff to show u

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  6. lolwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 5:28 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    u want some pics of that ??? like with the gun and all ?

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    • Steveresponded to lol on November 19th, 2009 at 8:37 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      lol, if you have some, please sent them through. My email is on the contact page (link at the top).

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  7. Vakwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 7:11 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    This is going to be an useful asset for SWAT Teams so they can count who shot what and when.

    On the other hand, civilian applications are rather limited.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  8. Lancewrote on November 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Finally a gadget from FN thats useful. Is the grip modular in size?

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  9. Donwrote on November 19th, 2009 at 3:15 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    While many people’s instinct may be that this is a bad thing, I can see this really helping with maintenance scheduling for the military/police and I can see this actually helping the user in litigation rather than hurting them. Naturally this should not be a required item, but rather elective.

    My WAG is that it works by measuring acoustic signatures and classifying them with a bank of matched filters, or possibly it could contain a MEMs IMU to measure inertial modes. This would allow differentiation between a gun being fired nearby and the user’s weapon. The rest of it is most likely just standard digital counting to infer timing.

    A really basic version of something like this would be a good electrical engineering junior/senior design project.

    -Don

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