Comments on: Browning BAR bullpup conversion http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sentenza http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-62112 sentenza Fri, 06 May 2011 09:21:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-62112 It may be a great solution for driven hunts with red dot sights or 1-4x scopes. The magazine "system" appears to be slighty complex, rendering difficult a fast change. I think that the project opens the way to many enhancements such as free floating fluted barrels, BOSS muzzlebrakes, fiberglass or laminated stocks, full detachable magazine (and a different stock design). With proper handloaded cartidges BAR can express an accuracy you couldn't expect... I have been loking for something like that for years. I will buy one if under 2500Euros. Regards It may be a great solution for driven hunts with red dot sights or 1-4x scopes. The magazine “system” appears to be slighty complex, rendering difficult a fast change. I think that the project opens the way to many enhancements such as free floating fluted barrels, BOSS muzzlebrakes, fiberglass or laminated stocks, full detachable magazine (and a different stock design). With proper handloaded cartidges BAR can express an accuracy you couldn’t expect… I have been loking for something like that for years. I will buy one if under 2500Euros.
Regards

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]]> By: Vernon Wagner http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-28381 Vernon Wagner Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:02:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-28381 Lots to like. No pricing or order information. Barrel Specs and other info not listed. Other caliburs in the future? Trigger options and stock options? More questions and little answers. Catalog or brochure in the offering? Lots to like. No pricing or order information. Barrel Specs and other info not listed. Other caliburs in the future? Trigger options and stock options?
More questions and little answers. Catalog or brochure in the offering?

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]]> By: Jake http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-23703 Jake Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:44:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-23703 Can you just buy a kit for this? Can you just buy a kit for this?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18585 Steve Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:37:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18585 Clodboy, thanks for the links, that is awesome! Clodboy, thanks for the links, that is awesome!

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]]> By: c.trapp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18581 c.trapp Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:03:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18581 @DF since they build them to order and manufacture each rifle by hand, it would be no problem to get one of those based on left- hand BAR. And I think it wouldn't cost much extra. @DF since they build them to order and manufacture each rifle by hand, it would be no problem to get one of those based on left- hand BAR. And I think it wouldn’t cost much extra.

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]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18575 Clodboy Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:23:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18575 Oh, and we're not even done yet with the German bullpup extravaganza: The Sommer & Ockenfuss Shorty is a unique bullpup "Griffrepetierer", or "grip-action repeating rifle" that chambers the next round by pulling back the sliding pistol grip assembly. Unfortunately, the maker has since gone belly up and the official homepage is no more, but here is a site with some pics and info (only in German, sadly) http://www.patricks-home.de/bullpup/so.html Fortunately, the patent is also available online, which includes a fairly detailed description in English: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0898142.html Oh, and we’re not even done yet with the German bullpup extravaganza:

The Sommer & Ockenfuss Shorty is a unique bullpup “Griffrepetierer”, or “grip-action repeating rifle” that chambers the next round by pulling back the sliding pistol grip assembly.

Unfortunately, the maker has since gone belly up and the official homepage is no more, but here is a site with some pics and info (only in German, sadly)
http://www.patricks-home.de/bullpup/so.html
Fortunately, the patent is also available online, which includes a fairly detailed description in English:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0898142.html

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]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18522 Clodboy Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:03:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18522 GetGunInCanada: Over/under configurations traditionally have a large following in Europe. Not only with shotguns, but also for double rifles ("Bockbüchsen"), large/small bore combos ("Bergstutzen") and shotgun/rifle combos ("Bockbüchsflinten"). GetGunInCanada:
Over/under configurations traditionally have a large following in Europe.
Not only with shotguns, but also for double rifles (“Bockbüchsen”), large/small bore combos (“Bergstutzen”) and shotgun/rifle combos (“Bockbüchsflinten”).

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]]> By: Vitor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18496 Vitor Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:43:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18496 Wood + Bullpup = Pure Class. Wood + Bullpup = Pure Class.

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]]> By: GetGunInCanada http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18494 GetGunInCanada Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:19:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18494 That's not such a bad idea Clodboy, I've lamented the length of my shotgun when hunting in heavy cover. It could also be an issue in a small blind. I like it, faster pointing, better balance. But I think the real reason it exists might be Germany's civilian firearms laws, particularly regional ones. Much like manual action ARs and AKs in the UK and Australia. I hope someone can chime in and clarify this. That’s not such a bad idea Clodboy, I’ve lamented the length of my shotgun when hunting in heavy cover. It could also be an issue in a small blind. I like it, faster pointing, better balance.

But I think the real reason it exists might be Germany’s civilian firearms laws, particularly regional ones. Much like manual action ARs and AKs in the UK and Australia.

I hope someone can chime in and clarify this.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18492 Steve Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:14:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18492 Clodboy, LOL, what is hilarious! I will blog that today or tomorrow. Clodboy, LOL, what is hilarious! I will blog that today or tomorrow.

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]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18491 Clodboy Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:10:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18491 There's another German company that makes - I kid you not - a bullpup over/under double rifle, the "Steinkamp SW1". http://www.steinkamp-waffenbau.de/produkte.html There’s another German company that makes – I kid you not – a bullpup over/under double rifle, the “Steinkamp SW1″.

http://www.steinkamp-waffenbau.de/produkte.html

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]]> By: CMathews http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18470 CMathews Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:14:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18470 Damn, Carl beat me to it. But I second the fact that it sure is purdy. If I had the money I snatch up one of those Walthers, but they are WAY out of my range. Damn, Carl beat me to it. But I second the fact that it sure is purdy. If I had the money I snatch up one of those Walthers, but they are WAY out of my range.

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]]> By: GetGunInCanada http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18464 GetGunInCanada Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:21:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18464 Any idea if it's an actual conversion you do yourself, or if they buy the BAR and sell you finished product? It looks pretty neat though. Any idea if it’s an actual conversion you do yourself, or if they buy the BAR and sell you finished product? It looks pretty neat though.

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]]> By: Mehul Kamdar http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18450 Mehul Kamdar Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:19:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18450 Steve, My pleasure as always! I know that if there is a place where these guns would be appreciated, it is here. I was sent this link by a friend in Europe and found the work very interesting - the shaping of the wood for the stock alone must take a lot of time and cost big money. The ridiculous pad on it is a bit of a letdown to my old eyes though that is an option that anyone could remedy by specifying a better quality pad, I guess. Freiheit's comment on the "steampunk" appearance is spot on. Even old farts like me can live with that description and enjoy it. Steve,

My pleasure as always! I know that if there is a place where these guns would be appreciated, it is here. I was sent this link by a friend in Europe and found the work very interesting – the shaping of the wood for the stock alone must take a lot of time and cost big money. The ridiculous pad on it is a bit of a letdown to my old eyes though that is an option that anyone could remedy by specifying a better quality pad, I guess.

Freiheit’s comment on the “steampunk” appearance is spot on. Even old farts like me can live with that description and enjoy it.

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]]> By: DF http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18449 DF Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:40:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18449 South paws beware! Ouch. South paws beware! Ouch.

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]]> By: Beamwalker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18445 Beamwalker Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:41:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18445 It would be useful hunting in the woods or thick scrub, where a long barrel takes more time to get on target and has the chance of getting hung up. And it would make freehand shooting easier by putting less weight on the forearm. Interesting. But I don't know if I could cut up a BAR like that, I love the way they look straight from the factory. It would be useful hunting in the woods or thick scrub, where a long barrel takes more time to get on target and has the chance of getting hung up. And it would make freehand shooting easier by putting less weight on the forearm. Interesting. But I don’t know if I could cut up a BAR like that, I love the way they look straight from the factory.

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]]> By: Don http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18444 Don Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:18:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18444 I wish it was a converted browning automatic. I'm a total sucker for modern twists on old military rifles. -Don I wish it was a converted browning automatic. I’m a total sucker for modern twists on old military rifles.

-Don

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]]> By: c trapp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18440 c trapp Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:56:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18440 It looks as though they put an HK SL8 rail on top of it. But I have to go along with Freiheit: This surely looks great. It looks as though they put an HK SL8 rail on top of it. But I have to go along with Freiheit: This surely looks great.

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]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18436 Carl Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:55:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18436 Reminds me of the WA2000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_WA_2000 Reminds me of the WA2000:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_WA_2000

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]]> By: Freiheit http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/11/18/browning-bar-bullpup-conversion/comment-page-1/#comment-18431 Freiheit Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:19:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=9288#comment-18431 I like it. Theres something very steampunk looking about a bullpup with a wood stock instead of polymer around a classic rifle. I like it. Theres something very steampunk looking about a bullpup with a wood stock instead of polymer around a classic rifle.

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