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	<title>Comments on: Izhmash prototype of the updated AK [BIG NEWS!!!]</title>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US aftermarket still has more accessories and bling for the AK than the Russians do themselves! FAIL! The AK even has an American ACOG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US aftermarket still has more accessories and bling for the AK than the Russians do themselves! FAIL! The AK even has an American ACOG.</p>
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		<title>By: Thurston Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thurston Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would have loved to see the true 108 counter-balance system implemented in a .308 bullpup feeding M14 mags and a decent mag release.

For my .308 AK-108 I added:
      Tapco SAW Grip (prefer the no longer available ACE FAL style grip),     
      the TDI Forend,  
      UTG Forend grip (cheap),
       K-Var Scope mount (side slab style),
       ACOG for .308,
       Ace Folding stock (7.5&quot;)
       Cheap green laser (zeroed for 21&#039;)
       Cheap 500 Lum Light (good for wildlife erradication Mtn. Lion/Bear when they start comming in close at night)

All so far holds up under repeated recoil

Had to repair the FBMG Magazines by fitting followers, trashing springs and using Wolff AK springs, and removing interal floorplate.  Buy the steel cspec mags!

Things are good now.

I have extra large hands so I can move the mag release with my trigger finger and knock it forward as I insert the replacement mag. (let it fall)

Only thing left to want is a Titanium suppressor (on a Bull pup or not) and the 50 rd. drum, but the present configuration will do well for mount and dismount from vehicles.


I should be careful what I say.  Last time I said things in front of a SWAT Armorer about a .45 sub gun with integrated modern compensators, buffers, sound suppressor. light and lasers that fed .45 Glock magazines to be compatible with a G21 or G30 sidearm....3 years later the Kriss Super V was made.

Since the (.308) M-14 is back in force with the Sage stock and cut to 16&quot;, the a suppressed True counter-balanced AK-108 Bullpup (for MOUT and mounted ops) is the future... unless TDI beats someone to the idea and takes things to the next level.

Whoever does this better use the FAL pistol grip angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would have loved to see the true 108 counter-balance system implemented in a .308 bullpup feeding M14 mags and a decent mag release.</p>
<p>For my .308 AK-108 I added:<br />
      Tapco SAW Grip (prefer the no longer available ACE FAL style grip),<br />
      the TDI Forend,<br />
      UTG Forend grip (cheap),<br />
       K-Var Scope mount (side slab style),<br />
       ACOG for .308,<br />
       Ace Folding stock (7.5&#8243;)<br />
       Cheap green laser (zeroed for 21&#8242;)<br />
       Cheap 500 Lum Light (good for wildlife erradication Mtn. Lion/Bear when they start comming in close at night)</p>
<p>All so far holds up under repeated recoil</p>
<p>Had to repair the FBMG Magazines by fitting followers, trashing springs and using Wolff AK springs, and removing interal floorplate.  Buy the steel cspec mags!</p>
<p>Things are good now.</p>
<p>I have extra large hands so I can move the mag release with my trigger finger and knock it forward as I insert the replacement mag. (let it fall)</p>
<p>Only thing left to want is a Titanium suppressor (on a Bull pup or not) and the 50 rd. drum, but the present configuration will do well for mount and dismount from vehicles.</p>
<p>I should be careful what I say.  Last time I said things in front of a SWAT Armorer about a .45 sub gun with integrated modern compensators, buffers, sound suppressor. light and lasers that fed .45 Glock magazines to be compatible with a G21 or G30 sidearm&#8230;.3 years later the Kriss Super V was made.</p>
<p>Since the (.308) M-14 is back in force with the Sage stock and cut to 16&#8243;, the a suppressed True counter-balanced AK-108 Bullpup (for MOUT and mounted ops) is the future&#8230; unless TDI beats someone to the idea and takes things to the next level.</p>
<p>Whoever does this better use the FAL pistol grip angles.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and good info!!!  Thanks for posting this article.  Unfortunately, Izhmash&#039;s attempt to modernize the AK is not as impressive as I had hoped.  The whole gun looks like a &quot;jerry-rigged&quot; -74.  Then again, the 47 went through many prototypes before becoming what it is now.  The AN-94 is a much more impressive design than this.  The dust cover is an improvement over the old one, but it still doesn&#039;t allow cowitnessing.  The new rear sight looks better, but they could have upgraded to an aperature or at least moved the rear sight further back.  The top rail looks great, but once again it doesn&#039;t cowitness.  The second safety is a great idea with a horrible implementation.  The bottom handguard rail is almost moot point, and the side rails are a great idea... if they are in fact side rails.  Looks like someone could have done this in their basement.. actually, I&#039;m certain that an american DIY-er could come up with an even better design than this.  I love the Ak-100 series.. but this prototype is a disaster.  I&#039;d buy a gas-piston AR style system before I bought this monster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and good info!!!  Thanks for posting this article.  Unfortunately, Izhmash&#8217;s attempt to modernize the AK is not as impressive as I had hoped.  The whole gun looks like a &#8220;jerry-rigged&#8221; -74.  Then again, the 47 went through many prototypes before becoming what it is now.  The AN-94 is a much more impressive design than this.  The dust cover is an improvement over the old one, but it still doesn&#8217;t allow cowitnessing.  The new rear sight looks better, but they could have upgraded to an aperature or at least moved the rear sight further back.  The top rail looks great, but once again it doesn&#8217;t cowitness.  The second safety is a great idea with a horrible implementation.  The bottom handguard rail is almost moot point, and the side rails are a great idea&#8230; if they are in fact side rails.  Looks like someone could have done this in their basement.. actually, I&#8217;m certain that an american DIY-er could come up with an even better design than this.  I love the Ak-100 series.. but this prototype is a disaster.  I&#8217;d buy a gas-piston AR style system before I bought this monster.</p>
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		<title>By: SVDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SVDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 21:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rear slot is for a recoil pad... the long slot, towards the pistol grip IS for the cleaning rod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rear slot is for a recoil pad&#8230; the long slot, towards the pistol grip IS for the cleaning rod.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the &quot;action&quot; photo, the foremost shooter is left handed - does the AK come with a deflector, or is that the reason the shooter is wearing a visor?
The AK is best known as a &quot;pray and spray&quot; weapon...
Spiff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the &#8220;action&#8221; photo, the foremost shooter is left handed &#8211; does the AK come with a deflector, or is that the reason the shooter is wearing a visor?<br />
The AK is best known as a &#8220;pray and spray&#8221; weapon&#8230;<br />
Spiff</p>
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		<title>By: vtb</title>
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		<dc:creator>vtb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>basically AK is the answer for M4 problems (reability, jam issues etc.) and M4 is answer for AK issues (poor basic ergonomics, design of mid-ex-century etc.)

What i&#039;m trying to say - don&#039;t 100% abandon idea of M4 parts (grips, stocks, rails) when you build your AK. Stock AK parts were made mainly with technological aspects of production in mind (how to minimize cost while building 1 mln AK in month). Yes - they will work and will do that fine from -50C to +50C but it&#039;s strange to see that while you get free source to R&amp;D base which you get as granted (done in a sandbox just during couple of last years) you still buy a stock which was designed 40 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>basically AK is the answer for M4 problems (reability, jam issues etc.) and M4 is answer for AK issues (poor basic ergonomics, design of mid-ex-century etc.)</p>
<p>What i&#8217;m trying to say &#8211; don&#8217;t 100% abandon idea of M4 parts (grips, stocks, rails) when you build your AK. Stock AK parts were made mainly with technological aspects of production in mind (how to minimize cost while building 1 mln AK in month). Yes &#8211; they will work and will do that fine from -50C to +50C but it&#8217;s strange to see that while you get free source to R&amp;D base which you get as granted (done in a sandbox just during couple of last years) you still buy a stock which was designed 40 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,

I have the same folding stock design on my Arsenal. It is amazingly strong. Deploy it and there is absolutely no movement at the hinge. None. Folding and unfolding is a snap. I always preferred fixed stock AK&#039;s over the older under-folding and side-folding metal stocks. That was until having one of these AK-100 series folders. They are the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>I have the same folding stock design on my Arsenal. It is amazingly strong. Deploy it and there is absolutely no movement at the hinge. None. Folding and unfolding is a snap. I always preferred fixed stock AK&#8217;s over the older under-folding and side-folding metal stocks. That was until having one of these AK-100 series folders. They are the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is interesting the new buttstock however, i like the folder option, and like the RIS rails torwards the gas tube.  the remaining ris looks like to much the SF craze on the m4. that every folk whom goes ape s**t on accessories. Me i&#039;d just be happy with a folding stock, gas tube ris rail, 4 moa sight co-witnessed  on the gas tube and, maybe an torch. all of the other fancy stuff is to much wannabe SF in my opinion, although others may differ. I like it simple Gabe Saurez style, while SF m4 crowds rather have every god dam accessory on it; 4moa, illuminator, laser, bipod, and more junk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is interesting the new buttstock however, i like the folder option, and like the RIS rails torwards the gas tube.  the remaining ris looks like to much the SF craze on the m4. that every folk whom goes ape s**t on accessories. Me i&#8217;d just be happy with a folding stock, gas tube ris rail, 4 moa sight co-witnessed  on the gas tube and, maybe an torch. all of the other fancy stuff is to much wannabe SF in my opinion, although others may differ. I like it simple Gabe Saurez style, while SF m4 crowds rather have every god dam accessory on it; 4moa, illuminator, laser, bipod, and more junk</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance,

You&#039;re right. After posting my last response, I remembered seeing Larry Vickers* on a television program saying the AK-74 is THE most controllable assault rifle ever fielded when fired full auto. I think it&#039;s safe to say someone with his credentials has a lot of clout in opinions of small arms.


*If anyone isn&#039;t familiar with Larry Vickers, he was a member of the Delta Force for over 20 years as both an assaulter and weapons trainer. He knows his stuff firsthand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. After posting my last response, I remembered seeing Larry Vickers* on a television program saying the AK-74 is THE most controllable assault rifle ever fielded when fired full auto. I think it&#8217;s safe to say someone with his credentials has a lot of clout in opinions of small arms.</p>
<p>*If anyone isn&#8217;t familiar with Larry Vickers, he was a member of the Delta Force for over 20 years as both an assaulter and weapons trainer. He knows his stuff firsthand.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5.45x39mm Aks have even softer ecoil than a 5.56mm gun they are very easy to control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5.45x39mm Aks have even softer ecoil than a 5.56mm gun they are very easy to control.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gutao,

No, the AK family isn&#039;t hard to aim or control. Do other carbines have better iron sights? Certainly, including non-former Com Bloc AK variants like the Finnish RK.62 and 95, Israeli Galil and South African R4/R5. Use of electronic dot sights is easily facilitated with Ultimak&#039;s railed gas tube. http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm

Control isn&#039;t an issue either. The 7.62x39 AK recoils more than an M-16 but it&#039;s far from uncontrollable. AK&#039;s chambered in 5.56 NATO recoil the same as an M4. In fact, comparing my Arsenal SLR-106F to a Bushmaster M4gery in a side-by-side test left me thinking the Kalashnikov had a slight bit less muzzle lift during fast pairs. This is probably due to the AK-74 type muzzle brake more than anything else. I&#039;ve never fired a 5.45mm AK but can&#039;t see it being any different than a 5.56mm Kalash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gutao,</p>
<p>No, the AK family isn&#8217;t hard to aim or control. Do other carbines have better iron sights? Certainly, including non-former Com Bloc AK variants like the Finnish RK.62 and 95, Israeli Galil and South African R4/R5. Use of electronic dot sights is easily facilitated with Ultimak&#8217;s railed gas tube. <a href="http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm</a></p>
<p>Control isn&#8217;t an issue either. The 7.62&#215;39 AK recoils more than an M-16 but it&#8217;s far from uncontrollable. AK&#8217;s chambered in 5.56 NATO recoil the same as an M4. In fact, comparing my Arsenal SLR-106F to a Bushmaster M4gery in a side-by-side test left me thinking the Kalashnikov had a slight bit less muzzle lift during fast pairs. This is probably due to the AK-74 type muzzle brake more than anything else. I&#8217;ve never fired a 5.45mm AK but can&#8217;t see it being any different than a 5.56mm Kalash.</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vtb, that is a very nice mod AK you got there. Very nice. The M93 stock is a classic and a lot of people would paid a premium price for it even if it is used.

If I ever get the time and funds, I&#039;ll mod one of my AK to something like yours.


Gutao,

Like everything, experience and a good muzzle brake greatly help in the control and aiming of the firearm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vtb, that is a very nice mod AK you got there. Very nice. The M93 stock is a classic and a lot of people would paid a premium price for it even if it is used.</p>
<p>If I ever get the time and funds, I&#8217;ll mod one of my AK to something like yours.</p>
<p>Gutao,</p>
<p>Like everything, experience and a good muzzle brake greatly help in the control and aiming of the firearm.</p>
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		<title>By: Gutao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gutao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry &#039;bout the noob comment,but are the AK&#039;s that hard to aim/control?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry &#8217;bout the noob comment,but are the AK&#8217;s that hard to aim/control?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vtb, nice gun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vtb, nice gun!</p>
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		<title>By: vtb</title>
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		<dc:creator>vtb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s good to watch the izhmash is trying to catch up ipsc crowd already upgraded their saiga&#039;s. Because but the new rear sight and top cover with rail which holds in place by SVD-type level-lock - are good things for shure.

Meanwhile anyone can make their AK comfortable to shoot:

1. TAPCO SAW grip (or MAGPUL MIAD)
2. TDI stock adapter
3. MAGPUL UBR stock (slimmest cheek piece) 
4. railed gas tube
5. RPK rear windage &amp; elevation adjustable sight
6. TAPCO white post for front sight
7. aimpoint micro H-1 (T-1) with reddot calibrated to make reddot lie on front post top.

M93 magpul shown - was waiting UBR to arrive.
http://b0.imgsrc.ru/v/vtb/8/13979398pTP.jpg

this exact 7.62x39 saiga is capable of 2.5MOA accuracy with cheapest factory ammo - while not good to hit a steel plate 15x15 cm at 250 meters but enough to hit a IPSC popper at 300 meters from first shot in day without wind.

PS
anyone complaining about absence of a drum mag should just practise fast reload on the move. Roundmag is not good - it changes the grip angle of a weak (supporting) hand and dramatically moves balance of AK to the front which is not so good because on AK it&#039;s hard to use forward grip due to the geometry of magazine change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s good to watch the izhmash is trying to catch up ipsc crowd already upgraded their saiga&#8217;s. Because but the new rear sight and top cover with rail which holds in place by SVD-type level-lock &#8211; are good things for shure.</p>
<p>Meanwhile anyone can make their AK comfortable to shoot:</p>
<p>1. TAPCO SAW grip (or MAGPUL MIAD)<br />
2. TDI stock adapter<br />
3. MAGPUL UBR stock (slimmest cheek piece)<br />
4. railed gas tube<br />
5. RPK rear windage &amp; elevation adjustable sight<br />
6. TAPCO white post for front sight<br />
7. aimpoint micro H-1 (T-1) with reddot calibrated to make reddot lie on front post top.</p>
<p>M93 magpul shown &#8211; was waiting UBR to arrive.<br />
<a href="http://b0.imgsrc.ru/v/vtb/8/13979398pTP.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://b0.imgsrc.ru/v/vtb/8/13979398pTP.jpg</a></p>
<p>this exact 7.62&#215;39 saiga is capable of 2.5MOA accuracy with cheapest factory ammo &#8211; while not good to hit a steel plate 15&#215;15 cm at 250 meters but enough to hit a IPSC popper at 300 meters from first shot in day without wind.</p>
<p>PS<br />
anyone complaining about absence of a drum mag should just practise fast reload on the move. Roundmag is not good &#8211; it changes the grip angle of a weak (supporting) hand and dramatically moves balance of AK to the front which is not so good because on AK it&#8217;s hard to use forward grip due to the geometry of magazine change.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for selling errors hope Steve can correst them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for selling errors hope Steve can correst them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance, thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance, thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the Ak-74 mag article showed on this forum. Since Ive worked at gun shows and look threw the internet for anythin Ak-74 ive found some of my own conclusions on 5.45x39 AK mags.

The most numorious are East German and Bulgarian mags. Since Germany sold off all of there at that time recently reunified East German military equipment all were sold off mostly to US importers before German banned weapons accessories from being sold to comercial sellers. Bulgaria has its own now private corperation that makes alot of money selling as close to athentic AKs into the US. Since the Bulgraian military still uses Ak-74s and of course the AK-M1 (AK-103) both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 modern polymer mags are sold by the crate fulls here. 

Poland is now the newist seller of AK-74 accessories to the US market. Since they are they only countries to adopt a 5.56mm AK they have alot of older AK-74s in surpluse and made money selling guns and now mags to CAI and other gun sellers here.

As for Russia its difficult to say. Ive havent seen any modern Russian mags on the market here. Some Soviet era mags have flowted in by either by third party buys and or from our troops in Afghanistain bringing some 1980s vintige left overs in. Some Soviet era mags I.E. 45rd RPK mags ive seen but they are very rare and Expensive!This goes to a Clinton era polocy with the Russian government and the ATF to keep AK and SKS guns parts and accessories as difficult as possible to get to US comercial sellers. Only guns the Clinton administraion aproved of like the Seiga where alowed in. Dispite President Bush&#039;s 2 terms in office no reversial of this policy ever come into existence.

As for China I did read of a Type 88 Ak-74 clone the Chicoms made. But no one outside of private US gun owners where interested in a AK-74 and with no commercial interest the gun died before the 1989 import ban which was the real killer of Chinese AKs the 1994 ban came later but by then only MAK-90 where alowed to be imported. The military model died before it began since China stayed with the 7.62x39mm round and the Type 56 rifle and crbine with it. No one in Middle East or Africa wanted a 5.45 AK since ammo was hard to fine so they bought Chinese type 56s. To this day they only county outside of Rissia/CIS and Eastern Europe to us the AK-74 is Vietnam which recently adopted the AK-74 for Vietnamese Navel Infantry units . And the other was Venezeula which  Dictator Hugo Chevez had swichted from the ageing FN FALs and FNCs they army was useing to AK-74s and AK-103s. He wanted to have common calibers with his allies in Russia and Cuba.

As for North Korea they never adpoted a 5.45 rifle period. The 7.62mm AK-47 is the standerd North Korean rifle. Intel has shown some AK-47s in Korea to been modernised with a AK-74/103 style muzzle brake and plastic stkes but there all 7.62x39. North Korea may had looked into the AK-74 in the late 1980s and made some accessories for them. But never was adopted. The mags seen where export only North Korean made that are bought by illict groups like the Talliban and Hezbolla who buy stolen or 3rd party AKs from the CIS.

As for Romania they have gave us some of the best 5.45 rifles only 2nd to Bugaria as per being as close to a real Russian military AK-74 Assult Rifle can get. The SAR-2 is a great rifle and Only Arsenel AK-74 come close to the rifle closeness to the real thing. However since the Romanian Army is going to useing Ak-74s for quite a while longer mags and accessories are hard to come by since most mags and accessories in that country are stilll made by the governmant and are mostly given to the military. SOme compaines have bought a few mags for sale here from Romanian surplus dealers but there are hard to find (Ive never saw one ever in person). The Polish and Romanian mags are quite valuable since they are made from steel and live onger than Bakelite and Polymere mags.

As for the article ive read some guns are AK-103s and are 7.62x39mm for Spez Naz and export reasons. As for the AK-74U shown with a 60rd mag it may be that weight of a double mag may have killed the double mag concept since the new drum mag came to be for the RPK-74. And since the drum mag is made in Russia it wont be imported here untill they unoffical ban of Russian aussult weapons and gear is lifted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the Ak-74 mag article showed on this forum. Since Ive worked at gun shows and look threw the internet for anythin Ak-74 ive found some of my own conclusions on 5.45&#215;39 AK mags.</p>
<p>The most numorious are East German and Bulgarian mags. Since Germany sold off all of there at that time recently reunified East German military equipment all were sold off mostly to US importers before German banned weapons accessories from being sold to comercial sellers. Bulgaria has its own now private corperation that makes alot of money selling as close to athentic AKs into the US. Since the Bulgraian military still uses Ak-74s and of course the AK-M1 (AK-103) both 7.62&#215;39 and 5.45&#215;39 modern polymer mags are sold by the crate fulls here. </p>
<p>Poland is now the newist seller of AK-74 accessories to the US market. Since they are they only countries to adopt a 5.56mm AK they have alot of older AK-74s in surpluse and made money selling guns and now mags to CAI and other gun sellers here.</p>
<p>As for Russia its difficult to say. Ive havent seen any modern Russian mags on the market here. Some Soviet era mags have flowted in by either by third party buys and or from our troops in Afghanistain bringing some 1980s vintige left overs in. Some Soviet era mags I.E. 45rd RPK mags ive seen but they are very rare and Expensive!This goes to a Clinton era polocy with the Russian government and the ATF to keep AK and SKS guns parts and accessories as difficult as possible to get to US comercial sellers. Only guns the Clinton administraion aproved of like the Seiga where alowed in. Dispite President Bush&#8217;s 2 terms in office no reversial of this policy ever come into existence.</p>
<p>As for China I did read of a Type 88 Ak-74 clone the Chicoms made. But no one outside of private US gun owners where interested in a AK-74 and with no commercial interest the gun died before the 1989 import ban which was the real killer of Chinese AKs the 1994 ban came later but by then only MAK-90 where alowed to be imported. The military model died before it began since China stayed with the 7.62x39mm round and the Type 56 rifle and crbine with it. No one in Middle East or Africa wanted a 5.45 AK since ammo was hard to fine so they bought Chinese type 56s. To this day they only county outside of Rissia/CIS and Eastern Europe to us the AK-74 is Vietnam which recently adopted the AK-74 for Vietnamese Navel Infantry units . And the other was Venezeula which  Dictator Hugo Chevez had swichted from the ageing FN FALs and FNCs they army was useing to AK-74s and AK-103s. He wanted to have common calibers with his allies in Russia and Cuba.</p>
<p>As for North Korea they never adpoted a 5.45 rifle period. The 7.62mm AK-47 is the standerd North Korean rifle. Intel has shown some AK-47s in Korea to been modernised with a AK-74/103 style muzzle brake and plastic stkes but there all 7.62&#215;39. North Korea may had looked into the AK-74 in the late 1980s and made some accessories for them. But never was adopted. The mags seen where export only North Korean made that are bought by illict groups like the Talliban and Hezbolla who buy stolen or 3rd party AKs from the CIS.</p>
<p>As for Romania they have gave us some of the best 5.45 rifles only 2nd to Bugaria as per being as close to a real Russian military AK-74 Assult Rifle can get. The SAR-2 is a great rifle and Only Arsenel AK-74 come close to the rifle closeness to the real thing. However since the Romanian Army is going to useing Ak-74s for quite a while longer mags and accessories are hard to come by since most mags and accessories in that country are stilll made by the governmant and are mostly given to the military. SOme compaines have bought a few mags for sale here from Romanian surplus dealers but there are hard to find (Ive never saw one ever in person). The Polish and Romanian mags are quite valuable since they are made from steel and live onger than Bakelite and Polymere mags.</p>
<p>As for the article ive read some guns are AK-103s and are 7.62x39mm for Spez Naz and export reasons. As for the AK-74U shown with a 60rd mag it may be that weight of a double mag may have killed the double mag concept since the new drum mag came to be for the RPK-74. And since the drum mag is made in Russia it wont be imported here untill they unoffical ban of Russian aussult weapons and gear is lifted.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I think you are right. I did not realize they were &quot;rare&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I think you are right. I did not realize they were &#8220;rare&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does the magazine in the gun in picture 2 (the one being held by Medvedev) look like a 60 round quad-stack mag?  Check the &quot;exotics&quot; section of this AK magazine reference page:  http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does the magazine in the gun in picture 2 (the one being held by Medvedev) look like a 60 round quad-stack mag?  Check the &#8220;exotics&#8221; section of this AK magazine reference page:  <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html</a></p>
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