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		<title>By: Karen Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 02:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best underbarrel ever and best looking im using some one elses acount because mines broke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>best underbarrel ever and best looking im using some one elses acount because mines broke</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 02:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pro, its being launched at SHOT Show, so not until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pro, its being launched at SHOT Show, so not until then.</p>
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		<title>By: pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any photos? video?
some specs?
i am very interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any photos? video?<br />
some specs?<br />
i am very interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defcom at the present time is only making export sales to foreign police and military.  We are in the process of contacting the U.S. military.  But as has been stated before they have apparently standardized on H&amp;K&#039;s launcher
at approximately $2500.00 to $3000.00 each.  Our launcher sells to police and military for about $1500.00 each and is lighter and more user friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defcom at the present time is only making export sales to foreign police and military.  We are in the process of contacting the U.S. military.  But as has been stated before they have apparently standardized on H&amp;K&#8217;s launcher<br />
at approximately $2500.00 to $3000.00 each.  Our launcher sells to police and military for about $1500.00 each and is lighter and more user friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANY NEWS?
Is this project canceled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANY NEWS?<br />
Is this project canceled?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know who sells the Defcon XL 200? Who? Price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know who sells the Defcon XL 200? Who? Price?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer to Lance on 15 Oct 2009:

The Defcom launchers ALL have barrels that meet the U.S. D.O.D. requirements for material and rifling.  The only launchers using steel
barrels are the high velocity like the MK 19. Low velocity grenade launchers i.e. M79, M203, XL200A1 are NOT closed breech weapons.

Please read the attached description from Picatinny Arsenal written in the late 1960&quot;s.

40 MM WEAPON SYSTEM DATA SMUPA-DW5  PICATINNY ARSENAL
DOVER, NEW JERSEY

1.		Standard 40 mm ammunition utilizes a unique HI-LOW pressure system to provide necessary muzzle velocity without undue recoil when fired from the shoulder.  This system was primarily selected because the weapon does not have a sealed breech and the rounds are not obturated (Ordnance: to close (a hole or cavity) so as to prevent a flow of gas through it, esp. the escape of explosive gas from a gun tube during firing in the gun barrel.)  The system as designed provides a
shot start and the round literally coasts through the barrel.

	2.	The cartridge case is a bi-chambered aluminum cup.  It contains a press fit primer plug in its base, which seals a thick walled propellant retainer.  This retainer holds a 0.127 mm (.005 inch) thick annealed brass propellant cup which contains approximately 365 milligrams (5.63280 grains) of M9 mortar propellant.  The retainer 	contains six tapered vent holes equally spaced about the periphery.  When struck by the firing pin, the primer ignites the propellant enclosed in the brass powder cup.  The propellant burns creating a pressure of approximately 241,150 kPa (35,000 psi).  This pressure ruptures the powder cup at the vent holes in the retainer allowing the propellant gases to expand into the low pressure chamber, the propellant gases, under a pressure of approximately 20,684 kPa (3,000 psi), propel the projectile into the lands of the gun barrel where a spin of approximately 3750 RPM is imparted at a muzzle velocity of 76.2 meters (276 feet per second).

2.	It should be noted that the cartridge case is self-sustaining, i.e., the weapon sees little or NO propellant pressure.  Pressure-time traces have indicated that peak pressure is reached in the low-pressure chamber between .1 and .2 milliseconds. Within one-half millisecond, the pressure is reduced to 3,447 kPa (500 psi) and within one millisecond the pressure has dropped to less than 689 kPa (100 psi).  This data implies that by the time the base of the projectile has moved forward such that it is tangent to the leading edge of the cartridge case, the volume of space between the case and projectile has increased to the point where propellant pressure has been reduced, for all practical purposes, to zero.

3.	The gun barrel contains six equally spaced rotating bands (rifling) to impart spin to the projectile.  Tests to determine optimum barrel length established that only 152.4 mm (6 inches) of travel was required to provide necessary spin rate for projectile stability.  The M79 has a barrel length of 355.6 mm (14 inches) and the M203 has a barrel length of 304.8 mm (12 inches).  This length is provided primarily to permit hand support of the weapon and as a safety factor, to insure that the shooter, in holding the weapon, does not accidentally place his hand or fingers in front of the muzzle. ( That is called making it soldier proof)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer to Lance on 15 Oct 2009:</p>
<p>The Defcom launchers ALL have barrels that meet the U.S. D.O.D. requirements for material and rifling.  The only launchers using steel<br />
barrels are the high velocity like the MK 19. Low velocity grenade launchers i.e. M79, M203, XL200A1 are NOT closed breech weapons.</p>
<p>Please read the attached description from Picatinny Arsenal written in the late 1960&#8243;s.</p>
<p>40 MM WEAPON SYSTEM DATA SMUPA-DW5  PICATINNY ARSENAL<br />
DOVER, NEW JERSEY</p>
<p>1.		Standard 40 mm ammunition utilizes a unique HI-LOW pressure system to provide necessary muzzle velocity without undue recoil when fired from the shoulder.  This system was primarily selected because the weapon does not have a sealed breech and the rounds are not obturated (Ordnance: to close (a hole or cavity) so as to prevent a flow of gas through it, esp. the escape of explosive gas from a gun tube during firing in the gun barrel.)  The system as designed provides a<br />
shot start and the round literally coasts through the barrel.</p>
<p>	2.	The cartridge case is a bi-chambered aluminum cup.  It contains a press fit primer plug in its base, which seals a thick walled propellant retainer.  This retainer holds a 0.127 mm (.005 inch) thick annealed brass propellant cup which contains approximately 365 milligrams (5.63280 grains) of M9 mortar propellant.  The retainer 	contains six tapered vent holes equally spaced about the periphery.  When struck by the firing pin, the primer ignites the propellant enclosed in the brass powder cup.  The propellant burns creating a pressure of approximately 241,150 kPa (35,000 psi).  This pressure ruptures the powder cup at the vent holes in the retainer allowing the propellant gases to expand into the low pressure chamber, the propellant gases, under a pressure of approximately 20,684 kPa (3,000 psi), propel the projectile into the lands of the gun barrel where a spin of approximately 3750 RPM is imparted at a muzzle velocity of 76.2 meters (276 feet per second).</p>
<p>2.	It should be noted that the cartridge case is self-sustaining, i.e., the weapon sees little or NO propellant pressure.  Pressure-time traces have indicated that peak pressure is reached in the low-pressure chamber between .1 and .2 milliseconds. Within one-half millisecond, the pressure is reduced to 3,447 kPa (500 psi) and within one millisecond the pressure has dropped to less than 689 kPa (100 psi).  This data implies that by the time the base of the projectile has moved forward such that it is tangent to the leading edge of the cartridge case, the volume of space between the case and projectile has increased to the point where propellant pressure has been reduced, for all practical purposes, to zero.</p>
<p>3.	The gun barrel contains six equally spaced rotating bands (rifling) to impart spin to the projectile.  Tests to determine optimum barrel length established that only 152.4 mm (6 inches) of travel was required to provide necessary spin rate for projectile stability.  The M79 has a barrel length of 355.6 mm (14 inches) and the M203 has a barrel length of 304.8 mm (12 inches).  This length is provided primarily to permit hand support of the weapon and as a safety factor, to insure that the shooter, in holding the weapon, does not accidentally place his hand or fingers in front of the muzzle. ( That is called making it soldier proof)</p>
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		<title>By: prodromos</title>
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		<dc:creator>prodromos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any news?</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should mount the XL 200 onto the top of the XL 79, and then put another picatinny rail on the bottom of the XL 200 so they can use the sight! 

I hate grenades, but I love grenade launchers! Isn&#039;t that weird?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should mount the XL 200 onto the top of the XL 79, and then put another picatinny rail on the bottom of the XL 200 so they can use the sight! </p>
<p>I hate grenades, but I love grenade launchers! Isn&#8217;t that weird?</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if it even have a aluminum barrel is stronger than plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if it even have a aluminum barrel is stronger than plastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance, &quot;If im dealing with explosive ordance I perfer a nice steel barrel to shoot it.&quot;

I do believe the original M-79 40mm grenade launcher had an aluminum barrel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance, &#8220;If im dealing with explosive ordance I perfer a nice steel barrel to shoot it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do believe the original M-79 40mm grenade launcher had an aluminum barrel!</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow that is light, nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow that is light, nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Btr</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/14/defcom-new-lighweight-polymer-grenade-launchers/comment-page-1/#comment-16227</link>
		<dc:creator>Btr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If buying explosive rounds, you need the $200 tax and registration of EACH round!

Chalk practice rounds are more popular for this reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If buying explosive rounds, you need the $200 tax and registration of EACH round!</p>
<p>Chalk practice rounds are more popular for this reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/14/defcom-new-lighweight-polymer-grenade-launchers/comment-page-1/#comment-16218</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know. The fact its all plasitic Polymer dosnt thrill me. The recoil would be very uncomfortable. And the fact the military is already commited to the M-203 (Marines) and the M-320 (Army) this may have come too late. 

If im dealing with explosive ordance I perfer a nice steel barrel to shoot it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know. The fact its all plasitic Polymer dosnt thrill me. The recoil would be very uncomfortable. And the fact the military is already commited to the M-203 (Marines) and the M-320 (Army) this may have come too late. </p>
<p>If im dealing with explosive ordance I perfer a nice steel barrel to shoot it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get 37mm flare launchers that look like the standard m203 but aren&#039;t considered a destructive device because all of the 37mm rounds are either flares, smoke, or less lethal (for police departments)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get 37mm flare launchers that look like the standard m203 but aren&#8217;t considered a destructive device because all of the 37mm rounds are either flares, smoke, or less lethal (for police departments)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to remember about buying a grenade launcher is that you are basically limited to non-explosive rounds.  Just like the grenade launcher itself, an explosive round is classified as a &quot;Destructive Device&quot;, and thus, each round will require its own individual tax stamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to remember about buying a grenade launcher is that you are basically limited to non-explosive rounds.  Just like the grenade launcher itself, an explosive round is classified as a &#8220;Destructive Device&#8221;, and thus, each round will require its own individual tax stamp.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that thing&#039;s butt-ugly. That being said though, it would certainly  beat carrying around and extra kilo of metal on your rifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that thing&#8217;s butt-ugly. That being said though, it would certainly  beat carrying around and extra kilo of metal on your rifle.</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
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		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Steve, Ill bet they are a lot of fun but its hard to justify dropping the cash and doing the paperwork for something that I will, most likely, never fire a live round through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Steve, Ill bet they are a lot of fun but its hard to justify dropping the cash and doing the paperwork for something that I will, most likely, never fire a live round through.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>West, they can be owned but are classed as a destructive device and so you have to jump through BATFE hoops to own one. I am not sure of the cost of smoke rounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West, they can be owned but are classed as a destructive device and so you have to jump through BATFE hoops to own one. I am not sure of the cost of smoke rounds.</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
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		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the legal situation with buying/owning one of these?

I have seen pics of people firing what appear to be smoke rounds at shooting meets. Looks like fun but where can I get such ammo and how much (ballpark) is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the legal situation with buying/owning one of these?</p>
<p>I have seen pics of people firing what appear to be smoke rounds at shooting meets. Looks like fun but where can I get such ammo and how much (ballpark) is it?</p>
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