Comments on: Has China developed a PDW based on the QBZ-95? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/ Firearms not Politics Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:46:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-19580 Carl Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:12:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-19580 Ejection and trigger pull has allegedly been solved by Kel-Tec's RFB. Belted ammo and drums seems like a non-issue for a service rifle. Supposedly the RFB has several hardened steel sheets protecting the shooters face. I'd like to see this tested though. Ejection and trigger pull has allegedly been solved by Kel-Tec’s RFB.
Belted ammo and drums seems like a non-issue for a service rifle.
Supposedly the RFB has several hardened steel sheets protecting the shooters face. I’d like to see this tested though.

]]> By: wengv http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-19442 wengv Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:25:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-19442 the drawbacks of bullup rifles. 1. case ejection port is close to user's chest. this design is not for lefties. 2. trigger pull is too heavy due to the connection rod. 3. can't use belted ammo or drum magazine. 4. if any kaboom, the user will be injured severely since the bolt is right under his cheek. the drawbacks of bullup rifles.

1. case ejection port is close to user’s chest. this design is not for lefties.
2. trigger pull is too heavy due to the connection rod.
3. can’t use belted ammo or drum magazine.
4. if any kaboom, the user will be injured severely since the bolt is right under his cheek.

]]> By: gun nuts from china http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16339 gun nuts from china Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:32:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16339 those guns which are designed by PLA usually keep the similar looking just like the Russia cousin for short training time for new gen. fire arms but those china made guns may have difference design and mechanism so don't be so serious about shape and size to conjecture their relation the same thing happen on Taiwan T-65 series AR too in the early stage T65 look alike a her USA parent AR 18 but at the mess produced T-65K2 it look like a AR15 type than AR 18 's one but it's still keeping the ar 18 refined mechanism [some said it work much alike the HK416's] those guns which are designed by PLA usually keep the similar looking
just like the Russia cousin for short training time for new gen. fire arms
but those china made guns may have difference design and mechanism
so don’t be so serious about shape and size to conjecture their relation
the same thing happen on Taiwan T-65 series AR too
in the early stage T65 look alike a her USA parent AR 18
but at the mess produced T-65K2
it look like a AR15 type than AR 18 ’s one
but it’s still keeping the ar 18 refined mechanism
[some said it work much alike the HK416's]

]]> By: Vitor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16216 Vitor Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:13:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16216 Jdun1911, dont generalize all bullpups. The Tavor has been very well received by israeli and colombian troops, the Kel-Tec RFB is getting great reviews. Jdun1911, dont generalize all bullpups. The Tavor has been very well received by israeli and colombian troops, the Kel-Tec RFB is getting great reviews.

]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16207 Carl Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:14:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16207 So why is bullpup a bad design? The ar15.com thread didn't explain why this would be the case. So why is bullpup a bad design? The ar15.com thread didn’t explain why this would be the case.

]]> By: china boy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16155 china boy Wed, 14 Oct 2009 04:38:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16155 I am a chinese boy ,firearm fans,95B was made in 1997,it is not a PDW,but shot carbine,used by the solders on naval fleet and special police force.ballistic was not good. I am a chinese boy ,firearm fans,95B was made in 1997,it is not a PDW,but shot carbine,used by the solders on naval fleet and special police force.ballistic was not good.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16139 Steve Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:42:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16139 Yep, you guys are right. The gloves are covering the barrel. I have updated the blog post. Yep, you guys are right. The gloves are covering the barrel. I have updated the blog post.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16137 Steve Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:31:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16137 Jarkko, are you able to post a link to a screenshot of page 75. I can't figure out how to get the example issue. Jarkko, are you able to post a link to a screenshot of page 75. I can’t figure out how to get the example issue.

]]> By: Schowgun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16134 Schowgun Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:53:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16134 Kyle is right. You can see some muzzle extending beyond the white gloves. Kyle is right. You can see some muzzle extending beyond the white gloves.

]]> By: thomas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16128 thomas Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:11:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16128 It looks like those Chinese sailors came off the same assembly line as the carbines. Those guys are clones! It looks like those Chinese sailors came off the same assembly line as the carbines. Those guys are clones!

]]> By: Jarkko Koskinen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16122 Jarkko Koskinen Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:35:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16122 Actually those guns were published in Milipol 2006. Photos of them are visible in Rekyyli-magazine (finnish only) at page 75 on this online-sample issue: http://www.rekyyli.fi/naytenumero/ Actually those guns were published in Milipol 2006. Photos of them are visible in Rekyyli-magazine (finnish only) at page 75 on this online-sample issue:

http://www.rekyyli.fi/naytenumero/

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16121 jdun1911 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:25:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16121 Oh someone posted a link to your site for the Type 03. Didn't know you have a article on the rifle or maybe I just forgot about it. Oh someone posted a link to your site for the Type 03. Didn’t know you have a article on the rifle or maybe I just forgot about it.

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16120 jdun1911 Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:22:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16120 I'm not an expert on Chinese weapons but someone did mention on AR15.com that the QBZ-95 was a disappointment. They went back to a conventional design instead of bullpup with the Type 03. They found out really fast why bullpup are bad design. Good for them. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=293193 I’m not an expert on Chinese weapons but someone did mention on AR15.com that the QBZ-95 was a disappointment. They went back to a conventional design instead of bullpup with the Type 03.

They found out really fast why bullpup are bad design. Good for them.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=2&t=293193

]]> By: R.A.W. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16116 R.A.W. Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:11:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16116 I'm pretty sure that's the existing short-barreled QBZ model. The type 05 SMG lacks the foregrip and the magazine is very wide and short because it's quad stack design. I think Kyle has it right, it looks shorter than it is because their gloves are covering the barrel and blending in with their shirts. I’m pretty sure that’s the existing short-barreled QBZ model. The type 05 SMG lacks the foregrip and the magazine is very wide and short because it’s quad stack design. I think Kyle has it right, it looks shorter than it is because their gloves are covering the barrel and blending in with their shirts.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16109 Steve Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:40:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16109 Grumpy, good call. It is really hard to see the size of the magazines due to the angle of the photo. It does seem to me that the mags look bigger than the QCW pistol magazines. What do you guys think? Grumpy, good call. It is really hard to see the size of the magazines due to the angle of the photo. It does seem to me that the mags look bigger than the QCW pistol magazines.

What do you guys think?

]]> By: XxleoxX http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16103 XxleoxX Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:44:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16103 just looks like a short type 97.... just looks like a short type 97….

]]> By: Lance http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16095 Lance Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:52:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16095 More and more Chicom JUNK. The chinese are make a carnine of there QBZ-97 rifle. More and more Chicom JUNK. The chinese are make a carnine of there QBZ-97 rifle.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16092 Kyle Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:23:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16092 Same thing -but since they are holding the bbl protrusion with their white gloves, it looks shorter. Same thing -but since they are holding the bbl protrusion with their white gloves, it looks shorter.

]]> By: West http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16087 West Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:11:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16087 Pretty impressive, they are gearing up across the board. Especially their new Jin-Class SSBN program on Hainan Island. Oh, and I love the ladies uniforms - knee high boots and short skirts. Pretty impressive, they are gearing up across the board. Especially their new Jin-Class SSBN program on Hainan Island.

Oh, and I love the ladies uniforms – knee high boots and short skirts.

]]> By: Vitor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16083 Vitor Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:57:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16083 I wonder how well the chinese 5.8mm performs in short barrels, one of the weakest points of the western 5.56mm. I wonder how well the chinese 5.8mm performs in short barrels, one of the weakest points of the western 5.56mm.

]]> By: Grumpy Student http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16076 Grumpy Student Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:24:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16076 It could be the QCW-05: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QCW-05 (there's a picture towards the bottom of the page) It could be the QCW-05:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QCW-05

(there’s a picture towards the bottom of the page)

]]> By: Chike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/13/has-china-developed-a-pdw-based-on-the-qbz-95/#comment-16073 Chike Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:07:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8453#comment-16073 I believe those are the same gun, at least that's what I figured when watch the parade. I believe those are the same gun, at least that’s what I figured when watch the parade.

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