Comments on: Czech Army may be dumping the Vz. 58 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:17:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Destroyer http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-25611 Destroyer Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:30:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-25611 hey lance, i never said it was a AK47, i said it was a drastic improvement over the AK47 which was essentially standardized in warsaw pact armies. It is a short-stroke, gas piston assault rifle. the AK47 is long stroke piston. the two actions are similar in theory but have differences. Yes, despite having a milled receiver, the Vz 58 is lighter than the AK47. The Vz 58 is an original design not based on any rifle design. again, people need to do their homework (i own one and "AK47s" so i have firsthand comparative knowledge). http://world.guns.ru/assault/as33-e.htm hey lance, i never said it was a AK47, i said it was a drastic improvement over the AK47 which was essentially standardized in warsaw pact armies. It is a short-stroke, gas piston assault rifle. the AK47 is long stroke piston. the two actions are similar in theory but have differences. Yes, despite having a milled receiver, the Vz 58 is lighter than the AK47. The Vz 58 is an original design not based on any rifle design. again, people need to do their homework (i own one and “AK47s” so i have firsthand comparative knowledge).

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as33-e.htm

]]> By: Lance http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-24648 Lance Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:14:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-24648 Uh Destroyer the VZ-58 is not a AK-47 its a STG-44 improvemnt. You got it wrong about the actions of the two weapons is very differnt. Uh Destroyer the VZ-58 is not a AK-47 its a STG-44 improvemnt. You got it wrong about the actions of the two weapons is very differnt.

]]> By: Destroyer http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-24607 Destroyer Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:19:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-24607 jdun, it is you that needs to do research. The VZ58 is a drastic improvement over the AK47. For one, it is short-stroke piston operated, reducing recoil. Second, it has a ambidextrous select fire switch. Third, it has a unopposed bolt opening, further increasing reliability. The only thing it has in common with the AK is its caliber. I definitely didn't cover everything. I own a civilian version and it is a fine rifle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58 jdun, it is you that needs to do research. The VZ58 is a drastic improvement over the AK47. For one, it is short-stroke piston operated, reducing recoil. Second, it has a ambidextrous select fire switch. Third, it has a unopposed bolt opening, further increasing reliability. The only thing it has in common with the AK is its caliber. I definitely didn’t cover everything. I own a civilian version and it is a fine rifle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._58

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-15859 jdun1911 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:27:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-15859 Yeah Matt, another piss poor reporting. You would think that with the invent of the internet, the free flow of information, and google, it wouldn't take that much time to check your facts. Yeah Matt, another piss poor reporting. You would think that with the invent of the internet, the free flow of information, and google, it wouldn’t take that much time to check your facts.

]]> By: Lance http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-15854 Lance Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:30:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-15854 I dont know the new CZ dosnt look to light and portable it looks heavy and cumbersome. Very ugly too!!! The VZ-58 is still in use in Slovokia though! I dont know the new CZ dosnt look to light and portable it looks heavy and cumbersome. Very ugly too!!!

The VZ-58 is still in use in Slovokia though!

]]> By: Tom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-15838 Tom Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:54:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-15838 We get a more military version of the 58 in Canada than the US does (it's actually quite different from the American version) and they're pretty damn junky actually. Of course you're getting a semi-auto with 5 mags, a pouch and a chrome bore that wholesales for less than $700 including shipping from the Czech Republic. 2,000,000,000 Kč is about $120,000,000 CAD That's quite a lot considering they only have about 25,000 combat men, perhaps they'll arm all their personal for that. We get a more military version of the 58 in Canada than the US does (it’s actually quite different from the American version) and they’re pretty damn junky actually. Of course you’re getting a semi-auto with 5 mags, a pouch and a chrome bore that wholesales for less than $700 including shipping from the Czech Republic.

2,000,000,000 Kč is about $120,000,000 CAD That’s quite a lot considering they only have about 25,000 combat men, perhaps they’ll arm all their personal for that.

]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-15835 Matt Groom Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:11:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-15835 Anyone who knows anything about the VZ 58 knows that is shares exactly one thing in common with the AK, it's caliber. That's like saying the SCAR is based on the AR-15. Apparently, a universal trait of journalists world wide is not knowing which end of a firearm the bullet comes from. Anyone who knows anything about the VZ 58 knows that is shares exactly one thing in common with the AK, it’s caliber. That’s like saying the SCAR is based on the AR-15. Apparently, a universal trait of journalists world wide is not knowing which end of a firearm the bullet comes from.

]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/08/czech-army-may-be-dumping-the-vz-58/#comment-15832 Clodboy Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:29:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8383#comment-15832 The reason for the mixup might be that in some languages, "hand"-guns refers to small arms in general, while pistols and revolvers are termed "fist"-guns (atleast that's how it is in German) Adding to the confusion is the fact that several Eastern Bloc states referred to their AK clones as "submachine guns"/"automatic pistols" rather than the Western term "assault rifle". The reason for the mixup might be that in some languages, “hand”-guns refers to small arms in general, while pistols and revolvers are termed “fist”-guns (atleast that’s how it is in German)

Adding to the confusion is the fact that several Eastern Bloc states referred to their AK clones as “submachine guns”/”automatic pistols” rather than the Western term “assault rifle”.

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