Comments on: How to get a gun license in Canada … and you though BATFE was bad? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-83795 David Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:54:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-83795 Range only, it's not really all that difficult to get a gun, but it is very expensive and time consuming, but I'm okay with that, less "legal' guns in the hands of criminals (In the US many guns seized from scumbags were purchased legally) but I hate the 5 round max for semi auto rifles (few exceptions though) the AK being banned, no CCW to civvies (ATCs are available but VERY hard to get) ATT, can't hunt with restricted guns (EVEN RIFLES....LIKE WTF) etc, basically the only form of gun control I support is the licence, everything else is bull Range only, it’s not really all that difficult to get a gun, but it is very expensive and time consuming, but I’m okay with that, less “legal’ guns in the hands of criminals (In the US many guns seized from scumbags were purchased legally) but I hate the 5 round max for semi auto rifles (few exceptions though) the AK being banned, no CCW to civvies (ATCs are available but VERY hard to get) ATT, can’t hunt with restricted guns (EVEN RIFLES….LIKE WTF) etc, basically the only form of gun control I support is the licence, everything else is bull

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]]> By: Aaron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-66072 Aaron Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:50:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-66072 Sexual fetishes need to be disclosed? Uh...there wasn't anything about that on my form. There was a section about spouses, ex-spouses, partners etc. But that's there so they can contact them and inform them if they deem it necessary. Remember that our system isn't so much about licensing but about preventing harm. That's why I had to have my psychologist sign off on mine. Keep in mind that this was a reaction to the massacre in Montreal (must be 20 years ago by now) that was done with legally purchased firearms by a licensed owner. So yeah, not about punishing or preventing crooks from doing anything but ensuring us legal folks don't do anything stupid. Ass-backwards, especially as gun crime had been falling steadily for years prior (still is). Sexual fetishes need to be disclosed? Uh…there wasn’t anything about that on my form.

There was a section about spouses, ex-spouses, partners etc. But that’s there so they can contact them and inform them if they deem it necessary. Remember that our system isn’t so much about licensing but about preventing harm.

That’s why I had to have my psychologist sign off on mine.

Keep in mind that this was a reaction to the massacre in Montreal (must be 20 years ago by now) that was done with legally purchased firearms by a licensed owner.

So yeah, not about punishing or preventing crooks from doing anything but ensuring us legal folks don’t do anything stupid. Ass-backwards, especially as gun crime had been falling steadily for years prior (still is).

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]]> By: Jim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-63162 Jim Wed, 18 May 2011 22:55:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-63162 Phil An m1 carbine in canada is OK too with the extension on the end of the barrell installed also??? do you know, I assume it is but don't know the rules change a plenty Phil

An m1 carbine in canada is OK too with the extension on the end of the barrell installed also??? do you know, I assume it is but don’t know the rules change a plenty

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]]> By: Travis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-53381 Travis Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:53:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-53381 Canada does have some crazy regulations when it comes to firearms licensing. In the hopes of helping the readers here I have outlined an up to date synopsis of the process of obtaining a firearms license on my Candian Firearms Blog: http://www.firearmscanada.com/how-to-obtain-a-firearms-license-in-canada-4259/ Take care and stay safe. Canada does have some crazy regulations when it comes to firearms licensing.

In the hopes of helping the readers here I have outlined an up to date synopsis of the process of obtaining a firearms license on my Candian Firearms Blog: http://www.firearmscanada.com/how-to-obtain-a-firearms-license-in-canada-4259/

Take care and stay safe.

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]]> By: glen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-40820 glen Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:57:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-40820 Or you can just make your own guns if you have bullets laying about.There's some good template and schematic .pdfs posted on piratebay.org for example, and will prevent police from simply 'looking up you on the list' when guns are eventually banned and they go door to door consficating them from law abiding citizens, which can, and will, happen during times like war or martial law. On another note, I think the fact that they ask you about your sexual fetishes is a tipoff that there are things seriously wrong with the registry laws. Or you can just make your own guns if you have bullets laying about.There’s some good template and schematic .pdfs posted on piratebay.org for example, and will prevent police from simply ‘looking up you on the list’ when guns are eventually banned and they go door to door consficating them from law abiding citizens, which can, and will, happen during times like war or martial law.

On another note, I think the fact that they ask you about your sexual fetishes is a tipoff that there are things seriously wrong with the registry laws.

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-18054 Dianne Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:19:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-18054 Evan: You can take the Restricted course or just challenge the test. To challenge you need to study the course material, find an instructor who does the testing (written 50 question test & short practical). This usually takes 30-45 minutes and you need 80% to pass, just like the non-restricted one. Once you have passed both portions you can fill out your PAL Application to get your Restricted PAL. The RCMP are in the process of revamping both manuals so hopefully this will reduce mandatory class time. Alberta Hunter Education has a list of instructors for our Province but unsure if all provinces provide this info. The Chief Firearm Officer for your Province should also have this info. Evan: You can take the Restricted course or just challenge the test. To challenge you need to study the course material, find an instructor who does the testing (written 50 question test & short practical). This usually takes 30-45 minutes and you need 80% to pass, just like the non-restricted one. Once you have passed both portions you can fill out your PAL Application to get your Restricted PAL. The RCMP are in the process of revamping both manuals so hopefully this will reduce mandatory class time. Alberta Hunter Education has a list of instructors for our Province but unsure if all provinces provide this info. The Chief Firearm Officer for your Province should also have this info.

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17893 Dianne Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:17:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17893 Nick T. I am from Alberta. Regarding magazine limit for shotguns during bird season, I have copied a paragraph from Page 23 of the Ontario Hunting Regs which states, "You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined". Nick T.

I am from Alberta. Regarding magazine limit for shotguns during bird season, I have copied a paragraph from Page 23 of the Ontario Hunting Regs which states, “You must plug a semi-automatic or repeating shotgun so that it will not hold more than a total of three shells in the chamber and magazine combined”.

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]]> By: Evan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17871 Evan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:00:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17871 Thanks Jeff i will look into the AR's available here. Dianne i have my non-restricted PAL just trying to get my RPAL, Is it still just a coarse? Thanks Jeff i will look into the AR’s available here. Dianne i have my non-restricted PAL just trying to get my RPAL, Is it still just a coarse?

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17858 Dianne Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:57:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17858 To obtain the restricted PAL you must first obtain the non-restricted PAL, it is the pre-requisite requirement to the restricted PAL. To obtain the restricted PAL you must first obtain the non-restricted PAL, it is the pre-requisite requirement to the restricted PAL.

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]]> By: Jeff http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17856 Jeff Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:38:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17856 Evan, Since you are a not a resident of the US, I don't think you will be able to come down here and buy a DPMS. You must be a citizen or a legal alien. Why not just buy one of the excellent ARs available in Canada? Also, the US has Export Control laws on anything remotely military (e.g. rifle scope with mil reticle). If I ever move back to Canada, I need to get the US's permission to bring my firearms out of the states before I can even get permission to bring them into Canada. *sigh* As far as the restricted PAL, I think you just need to take the restricted safety course. Somebody please correct me if I'm blowing smoke or other inaccuracies... ;) Evan,
Since you are a not a resident of the US, I don’t think you will be able to come down here and buy a DPMS. You must be a citizen or a legal alien. Why not just buy one of the excellent ARs available in Canada?

Also, the US has Export Control laws on anything remotely military (e.g. rifle scope with mil reticle). If I ever move back to Canada, I need to get the US’s permission to bring my firearms out of the states before I can even get permission to bring them into Canada. *sigh*

As far as the restricted PAL, I think you just need to take the restricted safety course.

Somebody please correct me if I’m blowing smoke or other inaccuracies… ;)

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]]> By: Evan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17845 Evan Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:07:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17845 Hey I have a PAL and looking to Get my RPAL How do i go about doing so? As well i'm looking at buying a Dpms AR Lo PRO 16 out of the states, for shooting paper, is it possible to bring this into Manitoba? Thanks Hey I have a PAL and looking to Get my RPAL How do i go about doing so? As well i’m looking at buying a Dpms AR Lo PRO 16 out of the states, for shooting paper, is it possible to bring this into Manitoba? Thanks

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]]> By: Nick T. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17811 Nick T. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:46:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17811 Dianne, what province do you call from? in Ontario I have never heard of this limit, and I was assuming we were talking rifles. Dianne,

what province do you call from? in Ontario I have never heard of this limit, and I was assuming we were talking rifles.

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17745 Dianne Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:54:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17745 Nick T. No this isn't false if we are talking about shotguns. Federally you can have five rounds but Provincially you can only have three shotgun rounds during bird season. As long as there is NO BIRD SEASON OPEN (migratory or upland) you can have five rounds. This has been in effect since December 1995. Rifles are five rounds. Nick T.

No this isn’t false if we are talking about shotguns. Federally you can have five rounds but Provincially you can only have three shotgun rounds during bird season. As long as there is NO BIRD SEASON OPEN (migratory or upland) you can have five rounds. This has been in effect since December 1995. Rifles are five rounds.

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]]> By: Nick T. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17736 Nick T. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:19:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17736 @ dianne, that is false. it is 5 rounds max always. @ dianne, that is false. it is 5 rounds max always.

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17697 Dianne Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:05:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17697 Crystal: On the 5 mag limit - This is during bear season only. During bird or big game (excluding bear) it's only 3 maximum. Crystal:

On the 5 mag limit – This is during bear season only. During bird or big game (excluding bear) it’s only 3 maximum.

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]]> By: Dianne http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-17686 Dianne Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:16:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-17686 Chris - You may wish to try www.firearmcentre.ca if you live in Alberta. Unsure what Province you are from but most Hunter Education Instructor's Associations have a list of instructors for their Province. You can take the full course or challenge the exam(s). Once you have passed the written & practical tests you then have to apply for your PAL (Possession & Acquisition Licence). Anyone providing the course will have these forms readily available. You'll need a phoo, two reference and your completed application. If all goes well you should have your licence in roughly 6 weeks. Good luck! Chris – You may wish to try http://www.firearmcentre.ca if you live in Alberta. Unsure what Province you are from but most Hunter Education Instructor’s Associations have a list of instructors for their Province. You can take the full course or challenge the exam(s). Once you have passed the written & practical tests you then have to apply for your PAL (Possession & Acquisition Licence). Anyone providing the course will have these forms readily available. You’ll need a phoo, two reference and your completed application. If all goes well you should have your licence in roughly 6 weeks. Good luck!

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]]> By: Crystal http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-16004 Crystal Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:19:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-16004 Chris - here is your best start http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/lic-per-eng.htm Don't forget, you HAVE to take a firearms safety course first!! http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/safe_sur/cour-eng.htm Chris – here is your best start http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/lic-per-eng.htm
Don’t forget, you HAVE to take a firearms safety course first!! http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/safe_sur/cour-eng.htm

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]]> By: Chris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-15977 Chris Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:25:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-15977 I read through the posts, lots of helpfull info there, thanks guys. I was wondering if anyone could tell me exactly where to start this whole process. As in, is there a website I can visit to begin the application process/practice test etc. Or do I have to go somewhere like a shooting range. Sorry, I really don't know jack all at this point. My sis' and bro-in-law are making a move to a backcountry area and we were thinking of getting our gun/hunting licenses. I read through the posts, lots of helpfull info there, thanks guys. I was wondering if anyone could tell me exactly where to start this whole process. As in, is there a website I can visit to begin the application process/practice test etc. Or do I have to go somewhere like a shooting range. Sorry, I really don’t know jack all at this point. My sis’ and bro-in-law are making a move to a backcountry area and we were thinking of getting our gun/hunting licenses.

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]]> By: Crystal http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-15888 Crystal Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:21:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-15888 Okay, to answer a few questions here... JC: The difference between the PAL and RPAL is exactly what's on the back of your card :) the "R" just stands for "Restricted" and the PAL stands for "Possession and Acquisition License" AND about the 5 round mag limit- I believe that is for non-restricted firearms only. Restricted firearms are limited to 10. Phil: There's really only 3 "classes." Non-Restricted, Restricted, and Prohibited. Prohibited, of course, has many other sub classes. You cannot carry for defensive purposes unless you are given permission and a carry license by your Chief Firearms Officer. As said in my previous post, they exist, but no one is known to have one (but don't take my word on that). The only possible way to be able to carry in Canada is if you can prove to your CFO that you are constantly in life-threatening situations to the point where you need to protect YOURSELF only with a firearm. Let me put it this way... Even LAW ENFORCEMENT is not allowed to carry off-duty. Okay, to answer a few questions here…
JC: The difference between the PAL and RPAL is exactly what’s on the back of your card :) the “R” just stands for “Restricted” and the PAL stands for “Possession and Acquisition License” AND about the 5 round mag limit- I believe that is for non-restricted firearms only. Restricted firearms are limited to 10.

Phil: There’s really only 3 “classes.” Non-Restricted, Restricted, and Prohibited. Prohibited, of course, has many other sub classes.
You cannot carry for defensive purposes unless you are given permission and a carry license by your Chief Firearms Officer. As said in my previous post, they exist, but no one is known to have one (but don’t take my word on that). The only possible way to be able to carry in Canada is if you can prove to your CFO that you are constantly in life-threatening situations to the point where you need to protect YOURSELF only with a firearm.
Let me put it this way… Even LAW ENFORCEMENT is not allowed to carry off-duty.

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]]> By: Phil http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/06/how-to-get-a-gun-license-in-canada-and-you-though-batfe-was-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-15874 Phil Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:49:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8324#comment-15874 Hi Carl heh, actually "Hiking" in this case is what my friends call the way I hunt. I call it a walk in the woods with a gun. To be honest I don't know if you can carry for defensive purposes I think you might be able to in special circumstances say if you're a trapper or prospector but don't quote me on that. In my province, New Brunswick we have a varmit hunting license which is good from March 1st until mid September. During that season you can carry 23 cal and under centerfire rifles. Before all M-16 type rifles became restricted in 92' I used to hike all over southern N.B. with my CAR-15. Hi Carl

heh, actually “Hiking” in this case is what my friends call the way I hunt.
I call it a walk in the woods with a gun.

To be honest I don’t know if you can carry for defensive purposes
I think you might be able to in special circumstances say if you’re
a trapper or prospector but don’t quote me on that.

In my province, New Brunswick we have a varmit hunting license which is good from March 1st until mid September. During that season you can carry 23 cal and under centerfire rifles. Before all M-16 type rifles became restricted in 92′ I used to hike all over southern N.B.
with my CAR-15.

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