Comments on: Suppressed Shotguns http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:05:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dennis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-52600 dennis Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:43:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-52600 Need information on a suppressor for a 12 gage, 870 rimington with a 20 inch barrel.Cost, size weight and how to instal. Need information on a suppressor for a 12 gage, 870 rimington with a 20 inch barrel.Cost, size weight and how to instal.

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]]> By: william http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-18590 william Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:55:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-18590 ok so basicly its like this anton chigurh in the movie no country for old men used a scilenced remington 1100 scincer the movie was based in 1980 ......first things first insane movie story and everything anton useing the remington 1100 was the best part . but sadly everything about the weapon useing a scilencer is false ( sorry ) now if you put a scilencer on a semi auto shotgun it wont cycle the next shell . so one shot miss your screwd . now a scilencer that small wouldnt do a thing mabye a little but not effective as it sounded in the film . useing a lighter round again will lessen the sound but the shell wont cycle and your screwd if you need more then one shot ( anton , shot 5 consecutive rounds durring the scence where he killed the 3 mexican .sick sceen but again fake ......... good movie sweet gun idea but for the scilencer to work they should have put it on a remington 870 which is a pump shotgun . ok so basicly its like this anton chigurh in the movie no country for old men used a scilenced remington 1100 scincer the movie was based in 1980 ……first things first insane movie story and everything anton useing the remington 1100 was the best part . but sadly everything about the weapon useing a scilencer is false ( sorry ) now if you put a scilencer on a semi auto shotgun it wont cycle the next shell . so one shot miss your screwd . now a scilencer that small wouldnt do a thing mabye a little but not effective as it sounded in the film . useing a lighter round again will lessen the sound but the shell wont cycle and your screwd if you need more then one shot ( anton , shot 5 consecutive rounds durring the scence where he killed the 3 mexican .sick sceen but again fake ……… good movie sweet gun idea but for the scilencer to work they should have put it on a remington 870 which is a pump shotgun .

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]]> By: Vitor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15464 Vitor Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:55:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15464 According to the book (No Country is book that became a movie...), his supressor seems to be custom made. According to the book (No Country is book that became a movie…), his supressor seems to be custom made.

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]]> By: Lurker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15402 Lurker Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:05:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15402 I have held and fired a suppressed Mossberg 590, and have seen fired a suppressed Remington 1100. As noted above, the size of the suppressor (as well as the noise - the action of a semi auto shotgun still makes quite a clatter) is entirely inaccurate. However the sound of the actual firing as depicted is fairly accurate, the suppressors I have seen fired made an odd ringing sound, and on the pump action 590 was surprisingly quiet. I have also seen (didn't get to see it fired) a "home work shop" made suppressed Remington 890. That suppressor was designed to fire slugs, and was reputed to be rather quiet. It was also fairly large (both in diameter and length), almost to the point of being unwieldy. I'd always wondered where the other two came from, maybe it was this firm. I have held and fired a suppressed Mossberg 590, and have seen fired a suppressed Remington 1100. As noted above, the size of the suppressor (as well as the noise – the action of a semi auto shotgun still makes quite a clatter) is entirely inaccurate.

However the sound of the actual firing as depicted is fairly accurate, the suppressors I have seen fired made an odd ringing sound, and on the pump action 590 was surprisingly quiet.

I have also seen (didn’t get to see it fired) a “home work shop” made suppressed Remington 890. That suppressor was designed to fire slugs, and was reputed to be rather quiet. It was also fairly large (both in diameter and length), almost to the point of being unwieldy.

I’d always wondered where the other two came from, maybe it was this firm.

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]]> By: Brando http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15399 Brando Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:56:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15399 I remember talking to the owner of Gemtec about shotgun suppression a couple years back. He laughed and said something akin to "the day I need to make shotgun suppressors because of demand is probably the day I quit the suppressor biz". I remember talking to the owner of Gemtec about shotgun suppression a couple years back. He laughed and said something akin to “the day I need to make shotgun suppressors because of demand is probably the day I quit the suppressor biz”.

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]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15396 Carl Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:11:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15396 Suppressors don't make guns more dangerous, so it makes sense that they should be legal. One shouldn't be required to sacrifice one's hearing in a self defense situation. Suppressors don’t make guns more dangerous, so it makes sense that they should be legal. One shouldn’t be required to sacrifice one’s hearing in a self defense situation.

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]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15394 Clodboy Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:29:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15394 I don't think a suppressed shotgun is nearly as "evil" as the movie No Country for Old Men would have you believe. It makes the gun excessively long, you most likely need to shoot very light loads, and even then it won't be truly "silent". The philosophy behind these is most likely the essential British motto, "What will the neighbours think?" ;) - a suppressed shotgun on the range will generate less noise that might possibly irritate your neighbours. Other European countries also allow for silencers in areas where gunshot noise is problematic, such as pest control on graveyards. That is, of course, no reason why the British shooters shouldn't savor the moment when for once, they get to shoot something their American friends can only drool about :p I don’t think a suppressed shotgun is nearly as “evil” as the movie No Country for Old Men would have you believe.

It makes the gun excessively long, you most likely need to shoot very light loads, and even then it won’t be truly “silent”.

The philosophy behind these is most likely the essential British motto, “What will the neighbours think?” ;) – a suppressed shotgun on the range will generate less noise that might possibly irritate your neighbours.
Other European countries also allow for silencers in areas where gunshot noise is problematic, such as pest control on graveyards.

That is, of course, no reason why the British shooters shouldn’t savor the moment when for once, they get to shoot something their American friends can only drool about :p

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15382 Matt Groom Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:13:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15382 I think it was a Remington model 1100 in "No Country". I find it terribly ironic that a country that bans self defense and sees handguns as being more dangerous than nuclear weaponry allows you to own a 12 gauge pump action shotgun WITH A SUPPRESSOR ON IT. Nothing dangerous about that! If I could only have one gun, it would likely be a 12 gauge pump, probably a Mossberg 500. If I could have a can on it, I'm pretty sure I'd be quite content! I think it was a Remington model 1100 in “No Country”. I find it terribly ironic that a country that bans self defense and sees handguns as being more dangerous than nuclear weaponry allows you to own a 12 gauge pump action shotgun WITH A SUPPRESSOR ON IT. Nothing dangerous about that!

If I could only have one gun, it would likely be a 12 gauge pump, probably a Mossberg 500. If I could have a can on it, I’m pretty sure I’d be quite content!

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]]> By: Jesse http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15380 Jesse Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:36:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15380 Jody I believe it was a Beretta 390 which wasn't actually in production during the time the movie was supposed to take place. I also believe that the silencer would have needed to be much longer than his was in the movie, in most cases shotgun silencers in a pump or semi auto shotgun tend to be as long as the barrel nearly doubling the length of the gun. From what I understand the thump sound the gun makes in the movie is somewhat accurate to an actual silenced shotgun but I could be mistaken about that one too. Jody I believe it was a Beretta 390 which wasn’t actually in production during the time the movie was supposed to take place. I also believe that the silencer would have needed to be much longer than his was in the movie, in most cases shotgun silencers in a pump or semi auto shotgun tend to be as long as the barrel nearly doubling the length of the gun.

From what I understand the thump sound the gun makes in the movie is somewhat accurate to an actual silenced shotgun but I could be mistaken about that one too.

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]]> By: Clodboy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15378 Clodboy Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:32:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15378 The gun used by Chigurh is most likely a Remington 1187 (not the only slightly anachronistic gun in the movie); the suppressor is a non-functional prop (it would have to be much larger to dampen a 12 gauge, as evidenced by the huge muzzle flash produced when Chigurh fires it). The gun used by Chigurh is most likely a Remington 1187 (not the only slightly anachronistic gun in the movie); the suppressor is a non-functional prop (it would have to be much larger to dampen a 12 gauge, as evidenced by the huge muzzle flash produced when Chigurh fires it).

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]]> By: c trapp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15374 c trapp Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:51:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15374 After actually reading the article in the imfdb, it seems that the gun in the movie was a prop. Anyway, when questions about guns in movies arise, the imfdb.org is a valuable resource. After actually reading the article in the imfdb, it seems that the gun in the movie was a prop. Anyway, when questions about guns in movies arise, the imfdb.org is a valuable resource.

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]]> By: c trapp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15373 c trapp Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:45:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15373 look at http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/No_Country_for_Old_Men There it is denoted as "Remington 11-87" look at

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/No_Country_for_Old_Men

There it is denoted as “Remington 11-87″

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]]> By: Dom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15372 Dom Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:44:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15372 jody - I was going to bring up that movie, too. That was the first time I had heard of this company. When it comes right down to it suppressing a shotgun is a tricky proposition. I think only a country like the UK - with a strong firearms tradition among its people and a strong paternalistic tradition in its government - could need this enough to bother. Anyway, this company had come up in discussions of the movie because Anton Shugur appeared to be using a silenced shotgun. But the conclusion the forum came to - and I think the specs from this company back this up - is that what he had was just a custom movie weapon. Suppressed shotguns do exist, but they are completely different in construction and performance from what was portrayed in that movie. Also, the other thing he had was a cattle stunner. And a lucky quarter, Friendo. jody – I was going to bring up that movie, too. That was the first time I had heard of this company. When it comes right down to it suppressing a shotgun is a tricky proposition. I think only a country like the UK – with a strong firearms tradition among its people and a strong paternalistic tradition in its government – could need this enough to bother.

Anyway, this company had come up in discussions of the movie because Anton Shugur appeared to be using a silenced shotgun. But the conclusion the forum came to – and I think the specs from this company back this up – is that what he had was just a custom movie weapon. Suppressed shotguns do exist, but they are completely different in construction and performance from what was portrayed in that movie.

Also, the other thing he had was a cattle stunner. And a lucky quarter, Friendo.

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]]> By: jody http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/01/suppressed-shotguns/comment-page-1/#comment-15370 jody Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:51:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8192#comment-15370 can anybody tell me what the hitman uses in "no country for old men"? it appears to be a sound suppressed semi-automatic shotgun. but i've never even heard of, let alone seen on the internet, a real one. is it just a movie weapon? can anybody tell me what the hitman uses in “no country for old men”? it appears to be a sound suppressed semi-automatic shotgun.

but i’ve never even heard of, let alone seen on the internet, a real one.

is it just a movie weapon?

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