Comments on: Radom AKS, Tantal and Beryl Rifles. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:09:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: patrick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15446 patrick Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:42:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15446 Oh, ok. Thanks for the timely response! Oh, ok. Thanks for the timely response!

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15435 Steve Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:20:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15435 patrick, not yet. Maybe next year. patrick, not yet. Maybe next year.

]]> By: patrick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15429 patrick Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:31:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15429 Are these sold in the United States through an importer of some sort? Where can I find them? Are these sold in the United States through an importer of some sort? Where can I find them?

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15364 Steve Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:49:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15364 Yes ... those are their military counterparts. They are military fully-automatic rifles firing an intermediate cartridge. Yes … those are their military counterparts. They are military fully-automatic rifles firing an intermediate cartridge.

]]> By: chris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15363 chris Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:42:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15363 "The Aktyn Radom Sport family consists of three rifles which are semi-automatic versions of thier military counterparts: * AKS assault rifle (7.62x39mm) * Tantal assault rifle (5.45x39mm) * Beryl assault rifle (5.56x45mm)" “The Aktyn Radom Sport family consists of three rifles which are semi-automatic versions of thier military counterparts:

* AKS assault rifle (7.62×39mm)
* Tantal assault rifle (5.45×39mm)
* Beryl assault rifle (5.56×45mm)”

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15209 Steve Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:43:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15209 chris ... I don't think anyone was calling them assault rifles. chris … I don’t think anyone was calling them assault rifles.

]]> By: chris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15208 chris Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:42:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15208 Please stop calling semi-auto rifles "assault weapons" They are NOT assault weapons. Call them "self loading" or "scary looking" but calling them assault rifles only gives more ammo to the legitimacy of the anti0gun groups. Please stop calling semi-auto rifles “assault weapons”

They are NOT assault weapons.

Call them “self loading” or “scary looking” but calling them assault rifles only gives more ammo to the legitimacy of the anti0gun groups.

]]> By: Tony Chow http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15178 Tony Chow Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:11:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15178 Why are Europeans so consistently ignorant of the importance of a good cheek weld? Why are Europeans so consistently ignorant of the importance of a good cheek weld?

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15121 Steve Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:50:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15121 fred, thanks for the link. fred, thanks for the link.

]]> By: fred http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15116 fred Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:47:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15116 http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Factories.php#lu http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Factories.php#lu

]]> By: fred http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15115 fred Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:46:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15115 Can't find English page.. http://fabrykabroni.pl/ Can’t find English page..

http://fabrykabroni.pl/

]]> By: Vak http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15105 Vak Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:08:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15105 Jdun Thanks for the advice. Jdun

Thanks for the advice.

]]> By: MattCFII http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15087 MattCFII Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:54:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15087 As I understand 922r, just redoing the receiver won't do the trick. To have them imported like the Arsenal Bulgarian AKs they have to be converted to good ole' fashioned "U.S. assault weapons," which is all about how many foreign parts they have and has nothing to do with the receiver besides for it counts as one of those parts. In theory, if you had a lot of foreign parts on an U.S. Ar-15 lower, it could be illegal under 922r (Thanks first Bush for that great executive order!). The standard 922r methods of U.S. parts like trigger group, furniture, etc. would apply. However, those are three pin receivers so they would have to make a 2 pin only version in order for them not to be counted as a machine gun. As I understand 922r, just redoing the receiver won’t do the trick. To have them imported like the Arsenal Bulgarian AKs they have to be converted to good ole’ fashioned “U.S. assault weapons,” which is all about how many foreign parts they have and has nothing to do with the receiver besides for it counts as one of those parts. In theory, if you had a lot of foreign parts on an U.S. Ar-15 lower, it could be illegal under 922r (Thanks first Bush for that great executive order!). The standard 922r methods of U.S. parts like trigger group, furniture, etc. would apply.

However, those are three pin receivers so they would have to make a 2 pin only version in order for them not to be counted as a machine gun.

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15086 jdun1911 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:36:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15086 Vak, I assume is better then putting it on the receiver cover. Unlike the Indian's engineer the Polish understood what holding zero means. In all honesty I would prefer it that they stick with the side mounted rail systems that the Russian invented. The only change would be picatinny rail. Overall get a Robinson Arms XCR if you want a modernized AK. It is currently the best AK design out there IMO. Vak,

I assume is better then putting it on the receiver cover. Unlike the Indian’s engineer the Polish understood what holding zero means.

In all honesty I would prefer it that they stick with the side mounted rail systems that the Russian invented. The only change would be picatinny rail.

Overall get a Robinson Arms XCR if you want a modernized AK. It is currently the best AK design out there IMO.

]]> By: Martin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15084 Martin Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:44:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15084 That rail looks so out of place on an AK. It needs more of a 'stamped and blued' look instead of 'machined and powder coated'. Somebody needs to make one. Any suggestions? That rail looks so out of place on an AK. It needs more of a ’stamped and blued’ look instead of ‘machined and powder coated’. Somebody needs to make one. Any suggestions?

]]> By: Rodolfo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15078 Rodolfo Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:20:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15078 That makes 2 of us, Brian That makes 2 of us, Brian

]]> By: Brian http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15073 Brian Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:46:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15073 Thought you said RANDOM "AKS, Tantal and Beryl Rifles". Thought you said RANDOM “AKS, Tantal and Beryl Rifles”.

]]> By: Vak http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15070 Vak Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:12:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15070 That picatinny rail looks nice, but how well does it hold its zero ? That picatinny rail looks nice, but how well does it hold its zero ?

]]> By: War Wolf http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15069 War Wolf Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:16:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15069 I have two Polish P-64's and the build quality seems to me to be first rate. Best value in mil-surp I've come across in a long time. One was made at Radom Arsenal and the other at Lucznik arsenal. Both have never malfunctioned and are very accurate little handguns. I would buy a Radom rifle if an importer takes them on for sale in the USA. The milled receiver looks a lot like my Bulgarian Arsenal SA-93 thumb hole rifle. I love that rifle. I have two Polish P-64’s and the build quality seems to me to be first rate. Best value in mil-surp I’ve come across in a long time. One was made at Radom Arsenal and the other at Lucznik arsenal. Both have never malfunctioned and are very accurate little handguns. I would buy a Radom rifle if an importer takes them on for sale in the USA.

The milled receiver looks a lot like my Bulgarian Arsenal SA-93 thumb hole rifle. I love that rifle.

]]> By: Daniel E. Watters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/25/radom-aks-tantal-and-beryl-rifles/#comment-15068 Daniel E. Watters Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:59:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=8104#comment-15068 Several years ago, there was a Class I Importer in Iowa that brought in the Polish full-auto rifles and SMG. Their website is defunct, so I imagine that they didn't get many US law enforcement sales. Several years ago, there was a Class I Importer in Iowa that brought in the Polish full-auto rifles and SMG. Their website is defunct, so I imagine that they didn’t get many US law enforcement sales.

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