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  • Vak

    Knowing that they have a wide selection of stocks for the AR-15 platform, I think they would just make a polymer lower just like the CavArms, but without the stock.

  • Canthros

    Probably a reference to the run of alloy lowers they did a while back, actually. Not sure if there are still any of them unsold, but Noveske has had a couple of limited runs of rifles built on Magpul lowers over the last year or two. IIRC, Magpul has not sold their lower directly because of legal obstacles (liability, most likely).

  • Phill

    Or it could be a compatibility matrix of various lowers with their products. Case in point I have some early generation PMags that are not drop-free with the latest CMMG (MOD4SA I think, the serial markings are shiny black on very matte overall finish) lower. When I use them with an earlier CMMG they drop free with out any problems. The same new lower has problem with the aluminum enhanced trigger guard. Every now and then the edges near the rabbit ears would snag on my hand, so I switched to the polymer version. I think there is a need for this type of resource.

  • randomhero58

    Could the info be for the ACR/Massada?

  • http://bonifacestreatise.blogspot.com/ Wynboniface

    MagPul takes their arms seriously and likes to produce duty gear. I doubt they will make some gimmick of a lower receiver, if they get into the game.

  • Fred

    The one they’ve done before wasn’t polymer.
    http://www.aacblog.com/?p=3970 (the only pic I could find fast)

  • Mike

    Didn’t Noveske sell a Magpul MOE AR-15 with a Magpul marked Lower?

  • Tom

    Magpul already has their own branded AR-15 lowers, but they were a limited run produced by Noveske for them if I recall. The Magpul rollmark is sweet looking though, and they’re as high quality as you’d expect from Magpul/Noveske.

    Very good news if they’re going to take up production on their own. I must agree with Vak that a traditionally arranged lower using injection molded techniques like the Cav Arms would be amazing. The only thing that puts me off of the Cav Arms lowers is the inability to customize the stock and pistol grip. I imagine they could mold the MOE or MIAD style grip into the lower and almost everyone would be perfectly happy as well.

  • PetCobra

    they may be talking about this receiver that they have released in limited numbers. http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218

  • Ind

    More unremarkable AR-15s and receivers saturating the market? Color me underwhelmed.

  • DEF

    Magpul has made billet receivers in the past, but they’ve been made in very limited quantities:
    http://www.magpul.com/gallery/lower.html

    Maybe this page is a leftover placeholder from the billet receiver project?

  • jdun1911

    They been making it for sometime in limited numbers as a promotion I think. Never for sell tho.

    Here is stickman pictures of it.
    http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218

  • http://www.thegunzone.com/556dw.html Daniel E. Watters

    Actually, I think they released a limited run of billet lowers awhile back. Some of these were built up by Noveske.

  • TL

    Magpul already produces limited runs of milled recievers used in limited edition Noveske rifles

  • Matt Groom

    There was talk of this a few months back that they may be sourcing an “improved” aluminum lower from a Cerberus affiliate, but I’ve heard nothing but speculation from all parties. I sorta doubt it will be polymer, but I’ve been wrong about these things in the past.

  • Someone

    They already made and sold 100 normal forged receivers, but stopped making them due to insurance costs/issues.

  • http://www.thisismygun.com Thomas

    Or it could be for the ACR lower receiver that they are producing for Bushmaster.

  • vxbinaca

    When will they learn we need UPPERS, not more rifles.

  • D

    injection molding is many times faster than CNC machining. Wonder what the price is going to be on these. Manufacturing costs are greatly reduced. Its the same technique as for the ACR

  • Matt Groom

    Injection molding CAN be faster, but depending on the grade of material that is used. The harder the plastic, the hotter the mold gets on each shot, and the longer it takes to cool. Plastic has to be trimmed, and that can get costly and take a long time too. With CNC of something like aluminum, your set up is relatively easy, you can do multiple parts with a limited investment in tooling and jigs, and the parts only have to be deburred/tumbled and anodized before you sell them. It’s actually a lot faster than it sounds, especially for a simple part like an AR reciever.

    It might take 45 minutes to an hour and a half to cool a mold, and they cost $50,000 a piece. The more complex the mold, the more expensive. And molds wear out when you use hard material. The glass content of many plastics acts like very fine sand paper that wears the mold from the inside out, causing flashing, shrinkage, warpage, and other problems with age.

    If you can CNC mill six receivers at once, tumble two dozen at a time, and anodize them on sight, you can get dozens done in a day, versus half as many injection molded ones. It might actually be cheaper to CNC them, and any minor changes can be made to the program or tooling, versus changing the mold which can be a nightmare.

    This is why dozens of companies make aluminum AR lowers, and only two that I know of do an injection molded one.

  • Ken

    For those of you who haven’t seen a CNC MILL in action on Aluminum, go to youtube and search for vids on it. You will be surprised how fast one of these things go.