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		<title>By: Briguy</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/21/long-range-shooting-with-a-snubby/comment-page-1/#comment-82072</link>
		<dc:creator>Briguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt even know that .38&#039;s were accurate that far out! I wonder what kind of ammo this guy was using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt even know that .38&#8242;s were accurate that far out! I wonder what kind of ammo this guy was using.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the ban on pistols in GB I used to shoot Allcomers &quot;A&quot; and pocket pistol, both were modified guns and both held ILRPSA records, the pocket was a S&amp;W mod.27 with a 3.5 barrel the Allcomers was a Ruger Blackhawk with a 9 inch Walther barrel an extended top rail with a Williams foolproof sight,this was capable of 50 ex 50 at every distance (100,200 and 300 yards). Would love to be able to shoot these comps again, but alas the powers that be won&#039;t allow it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the ban on pistols in GB I used to shoot Allcomers &#8220;A&#8221; and pocket pistol, both were modified guns and both held ILRPSA records, the pocket was a S&amp;W mod.27 with a 3.5 barrel the Allcomers was a Ruger Blackhawk with a 9 inch Walther barrel an extended top rail with a Williams foolproof sight,this was capable of 50 ex 50 at every distance (100,200 and 300 yards). Would love to be able to shoot these comps again, but alas the powers that be won&#8217;t allow it</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Orman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Orman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive shooting with a snubby at 100 yards.  During my defensive pistol training I was the only student to use an S&amp;W 649 (5 rounds, 2 1/8&quot; barrel) for the courses on silhouet targets at from 15 feet to 25 yards rapid fire.  I had no misses.  All other students used a variety of semi-autos - mostly having adjustable sights and longer barrels.  I was the only student to have no: failures to extract, stove-pipes or lost shots due to primer failures (just squeeze again on a new chamber).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive shooting with a snubby at 100 yards.  During my defensive pistol training I was the only student to use an S&amp;W 649 (5 rounds, 2 1/8&#8243; barrel) for the courses on silhouet targets at from 15 feet to 25 yards rapid fire.  I had no misses.  All other students used a variety of semi-autos &#8211; mostly having adjustable sights and longer barrels.  I was the only student to have no: failures to extract, stove-pipes or lost shots due to primer failures (just squeeze again on a new chamber).</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It probably wasn&#039;t much fun to watch as they used paper targets.

In contrast at International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association (IHMSA) matches, you knock over metal animal silhouettes at 50, 100, 150, and 200 meters in the standard competitions. If it doesn&#039;t fall over, it doesn&#039;t score.  I have heard of people showing up at IHMSA matches with service pistols.  It was more of a stunt at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It probably wasn&#8217;t much fun to watch as they used paper targets.</p>
<p>In contrast at International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association (IHMSA) matches, you knock over metal animal silhouettes at 50, 100, 150, and 200 meters in the standard competitions. If it doesn&#8217;t fall over, it doesn&#8217;t score.  I have heard of people showing up at IHMSA matches with service pistols.  It was more of a stunt at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, THATS AWESOME. I would love to watch a match like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, THATS AWESOME. I would love to watch a match like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel E. Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel E. Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google:  ILRPSA &quot;pocket pistol&quot;

They shoot long range bullseye matches with handguns.  One category is for &quot;pocket pistols&quot;.  You have 30 seconds to fire five rounds at a target 100 meters downrange.  This is done twice.

Not surprisingly, some competitors started to build raceguns for all of the events, including the &quot;pocket pistol&quot; match.  In one of David Miller&#039;s books you can see a Colt New Service that received a short but huge match barrel, a hooded front sight with large sun shade, an extended rear sight, and orthopedic stocks. 

At Bisley, they had long range events for the &quot;service pistol&quot; (L9A1) and &quot;.45 auto&quot;.  These had targets at 100 and 200 meters.

Then there was an &quot;all-comers&quot; event that had targets at 100, 200, and 300 meters.  Also in the Miller book, there is a converted Ruger Blackhawk with all of the modifications of the New Service mentioned earlier except for a much longer barrel.  The owner had reportedly developed an individual load for each of the three ranges so he wouldn&#039;t have to change his sight settings.  In one of Patrick Sweeney&#039;s books, you can even find a photo of a Lahti pistol which was probably modified for the same competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google:  ILRPSA &#8220;pocket pistol&#8221;</p>
<p>They shoot long range bullseye matches with handguns.  One category is for &#8220;pocket pistols&#8221;.  You have 30 seconds to fire five rounds at a target 100 meters downrange.  This is done twice.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, some competitors started to build raceguns for all of the events, including the &#8220;pocket pistol&#8221; match.  In one of David Miller&#8217;s books you can see a Colt New Service that received a short but huge match barrel, a hooded front sight with large sun shade, an extended rear sight, and orthopedic stocks. </p>
<p>At Bisley, they had long range events for the &#8220;service pistol&#8221; (L9A1) and &#8220;.45 auto&#8221;.  These had targets at 100 and 200 meters.</p>
<p>Then there was an &#8220;all-comers&#8221; event that had targets at 100, 200, and 300 meters.  Also in the Miller book, there is a converted Ruger Blackhawk with all of the modifications of the New Service mentioned earlier except for a much longer barrel.  The owner had reportedly developed an individual load for each of the three ranges so he wouldn&#8217;t have to change his sight settings.  In one of Patrick Sweeney&#8217;s books, you can even find a photo of a Lahti pistol which was probably modified for the same competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon_The_Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon_The_Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough penetration to make your eyes water though ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough penetration to make your eyes water though <img src='http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive.

The bullet must have piss poor penetration at that distance, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive.</p>
<p>The bullet must have piss poor penetration at that distance, though.</p>
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