Comments on: Kel-Tec “FREEDOM” P3AT

By: Josh T

Josh T — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:35:27 +0000

For that money you can buy two (2) Ruger LCPs. And the laser is a joke. 9 out of 10 times if you have to use it you’re going to be squeezing the crap out of that thing and point shooting not bothering with looking at a dot on someone. Don’t get me wrong, I think the KT is a great concept. They shoud have made it all stainless to really stick out in the market and ditched the laser and then they would have been able to justify the price.

By: Barb

Barb — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:04:38 +0000

gary…..
its hard to change your birth name without sounding like you are 50, soooo…. barb it is.
i did take gun apart and clean and oil well. took it back to the range and it did alot better, i only put 4 clips through so about 24 rounds. I guess when gun shop owners sell you a gun as your first carry gun they should explain that to you. I have 2 other guns and never had a problem with them. i was just looking for a carry gun that would do more damage than my 25, and i think this one will work.
fred….I have small hands and i agree you do need a firm grip, i need more practice with this gun i am sure, but, 24 rounds at a time it may be a while before i am a sharpshooter…..LOL
thanks guys! :0)

By: FRED

FRED — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:13:16 +0000

I’VE NEVER HAD A MALFUNCTION OF ANY KIND WITH MY LITTLE KEL-TEC ALTHOUGH I HAVE HEARD ABOUT SOME. MY FIRST REACTION TO ANY STOPPAGE IS THAT THE SHOOTER MAY BE “LIMP WRISTING THE GUN.
THIS IS A SMALL PIECE THAT DOESN’T PERMIT A FULL FIVE FINGER HOLD AND IT IS VERY LIGHT AS WELL. THESE FACTORS MAKE IT ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO USE A FIRM HOLD – ESPECIALLY FOR THE RECOIL SENSITIVE SHOOTER.

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:34:00 +0000

Barbie… First of all, a 380 and a 9mm are too different to even talk about in the same comment. 100 rounds? This is a “back-up” gun, not something anyone would have as an every day carry! Clean it out and try again (if the thing hasn’t over heated from the hundred rounds!)… Try 3 sets of 3 rounds at a time at 10 yards. Oh, and change your name! (LOL)

By: Barbie

Barbie — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:05:40 +0000

I was stupid enough to buy this gun, it is my first 380 and the shop owner praised it. Obviously he has never shot this gun! I put 100 rounds through it and the gun jammed about every 3-4 rounds. i sure wish i read reviews on this gun before i bought it. If anyone wants to try it out i got one for sale! i shot my husbands 9mm Ruger and it shot like a DREAM!

By: TAP

TAP — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:25:48 +0000

I just picked up this pistol, forgot where I heard about it, oh yeah the Savage Nation. I enjoy Michael on long commutes home and who cares if he has hard-lined ideas. Welcome to AMERICA

As for the P3AT I was looking at the Ruger LCP and the NAA Guardian in .32…actually I had a NAA Guardian in .32 but sold it at a show. So I was back in the market for a compact carry for NYE.

I want a laser sight on my carry because it makes good sense. I respect the RKBA and if this paints me as a right wing nut-job…oh well. I’m probably more Libertarian than most because I took the time to READ.

Do your research and check out youtube.com for some good P3AT reviews and commentary. Lots of good folks out there that fill the roll of sheepdogs in a world full of sheep.

By: mike harring

mike harring — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:00:20 +0000

I heard the Michael Savage radio spot about this Keltec P3a commemorative .380 handgun just as everyone else did and I am not knocking it, I would rather have the P3’s bigger brother,the PF-9 which is 9mm and holds 7+1(8) rounds for under $400.This gun is still small enough to easily conceal and it fits my rather large hands better too.I can always fit it with this universal laser site I have.I already have a WWII Commemorative Colt .45 1911 anyway.With all that said,If one wants to blow $600 on this p3a hey it’s a free country.(let’s keep it that way)As for Michael Savage,I don’t care if he pitches this gun.LOve him or hate him,(I find him entertaining)He is his own man who is so conservative he makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal!! When it comes to Borders,Language and Culture though ,Savage is right on!!

By: Phil

Phil — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:03:54 +0000

Hi Walt, Savage is a conservative radio talk show host. He always speaks highly of police officers . He donates money to represent them in law suit’s and sends money to their family’s when one falls in the line of duty. Example the loss of brave officers in the city of Oakland, shot by a crazed gunman..
SAVAGE DEVOTED MANY HOURS TO EXPOSE UNFAIR CONTROLS PUT ON YOUR FELLOW POLICE OFFICERS ,WHEN MAKING AN ARREST !! tHUS PUTTING THEM IN HARMS WAY, AND RESULTING IN the DEATH OF SEVERAL GOOD MEN…
SHOT WITH NO MERCY, BY A RAPIST AND STREET THUG… He is not always right in his views but does love this country and our right to carry arms and legally protect our families.. Borders, Language and Culture is his motto…
Phil

By: walt

walt — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:23:36 +0000

I own 2 Kel Tec’s, a P3at and a PF9, one of them is my pocket whenever I’m out of my house. I’m a retired cop that carried a sidearm for 40 years, I’ve got Colt’s, Smith’s, Browning’s in wheel guns and autos. Now I choose to carry the Kec Tec. These guns are no more than damn fine tools, they do the job that they’re designed to do, every time. They are inexpensive and high quality. They’re not sexy, not pretty, but they’re in my pocket to protect me and mine, not to boost my ego. I recently heard about the 1791 Freedom P3, I promptly ordered one and intend to just tuck it away for my grandkids. Who in hell is Mike Savage and why does anyone care about him when making a gun purchase decision?

By: Fred

Fred — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:09:14 +0000

The above comments are very revealing to me. I never expected so many left leaning individuals would be savage listeners. Mike may speak with passion but one should not deny his insights. He sees through that which fools far too many – there is no other way to explain Obama’s election. No other way. By the way, Savage didn’t inform me about the issues. I was aware of the same things he spoke (and continues to speak) about – I am astonished that so many intelligent people do not see what is so obvious to me. Well, it’s obvious to Savage too.
As for KELTEC, I already own one and can vouch for its reliability and accuracy. If nothing else, it is an easy way to carry some protection wearing summer clothes.
I also have a laser sighted carry gun and must admit that it not only provides the shooter with confidence and speed in all lighting situations but is very intimidating to any would be assailant. That red dot on a bad guy’s chest will quickly change his mind!

By: Gary

Gary — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:49:14 +0000

I like to listen to Savage… I, at one time, thought of him as an ass that just liked to blurt out anti left crap. I’ve come to learn that what Mike says is true and to the point. For those that think of him as I once had, give him some time and you will learn to understand that he is not the blowhard that you may first think, but a man that says it like it is… The Truth, Like It Or Not… He Tells The TRUTH! Regarding the Kel-Tec, I bought one for my wife a few years ago and she and I both love it… Great gun, even without the laser sight. I carry a S&W CS .45 because the Kel-Tec is too small for my needs.

By: chris baugh

chris baugh — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:08:54 +0000

You can be a narcasist and still be right

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:54:55 +0000

I dont like the font. I dont like Savage. But I do like the pistol. And I like most of Savage’s positions.

Looks like I’m 2 for 2. Maybe I’ll just buy the pistol without the font and still listen to Savage but continue to think he is a narcasist jerk.

Thats the ticket!

By: chris baugh

chris baugh — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:32:30 +0000

When you’re buying a gun either it’s worth it or not. It doesn’t matter who endoresses it. This gun is a belly gun. You can buy a mod. 1911 .45 acp for about the same price. You decide.

By: Brandon M. Sergent

Brandon M. Sergent — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:04:13 +0000

How ironic, this is a symbol of gun control via cost. 600$ for a 380 auto? that only 5000 rich people can have? Uhhh no.

You want to commemorate universal rights? You design the people’s gun and sell it at cost via a non profit.

This is flames on a pick up, or gun nut bling.

(Proud concealed carry permit holder.)

By: Martin McFly

Martin McFly — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:23:38 +0000

Seems like a reasonable price.

P-3AT is around $300
Crimson Trace laser is around $210
Extra magazine is around $30

That puts me at around $540 worth of stuff on a $600 MSRP.

As for Savage… I certainly don’t agree with everything he says. But he does make me THINK. That is the value I get from his program.

By: Thom Woodman

Thom Woodman — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:29:21 +0000

Marc, I agree with just about all you say. How about IF Kel Tec would agree to donate 25% of all the sales proceeds to the NRA-ILA. IF that was done I would not mind so much spending the inflated price for the gun.

By: Terry

Terry — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:50:14 +0000

Just bought one, small and will fit nicely in my pocket. As to those who despise Mike S – don’t bother getting in line for the gun promo from either Nacy or Harry.

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:15:08 +0000

Aron,

Savage is not the problem , his ideas are the solution.. He is a bit rough , but tells the truth about what is taking place in Washington!!

Pay attention to what the man has to say. Borders, language and culture are are what a great nation must maintain in order to survive.

Regards, Phil

By: Tuscarora

Tuscarora — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:33:32 +0000

Keltec, what are you kidding. Maybe made in America, but so are Chryslers. No point in buying either.

Give me a Springfield XD any day.

By: Marc

Marc — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:43:45 +0000

I do like what the gun commemorates; the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment, which is currently under attack and at risk. Savage is promoting the gun; but the Kel-Tec does not endorse or commemorate Savage. Many products are endorsed by people, that many don’t agree with. But for all those whom appreciate American freedoms, we must agree, the Bill of Rights is worth “commemerating”, and that is what this gun is doing. There are many other products that do the same thing; can’t buy them all, but certainly a worthy endevor on Kel-Tec’s part. God bless America, the land of the free. And the only way it will stay that way is by fighting for, supporting, and endorsing those freedoms everyday. I lived in the UK for 6 months and in my opinion freedom and liberty beat that system hands down.

By: August

August — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:02:22 +0000

Unfortunately, most people who demonize Savage haven’t listened to more then an hour or two of his shows. At first, I thought Savage was just a guy screaming on the radio, riling people up. And maybe his delivery style turns people off who might actually agree with him.

Savage knows the left because he ran with them back in the day- he still lives in San Francisco for crying out loud! (how that works out is amazing to me)…Sometimes people don’t like hearing the truth, because the truth doesn’t always present a “feel good” emotional response. But that doesn’t take away the truth.

This new administration are indeed, acting more and more like fascists. Some of the bills that have been introduced related to firearms, for example, are completely fascist in nature. They won’t ban guns, but they would like to regulate them in a way that makes it impossible for the “common man” to own a gun.

Fascism with a smile…”we’re doing this to help society, because you can’t help yourselves”. It’s that kind of thinking that opens the door for really dangerous people with power.

And Savage calls them out…

By: don

don — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:01:22 +0000

I like the date on the gun and the message it carries. Love or hate them Keltec is 100% USA made by people who produce space and aircraft items. I do not carry anything that small but a .380 in the pocket beats a .45 in the safe.
As the flaming against Savage, he is on the frontline fighting for the 1st ammendment. He is more constitutional than Glen Beck.

By: Johnny Bronx

Johnny Bronx — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:31:44 +0000

The Glock guy says to fly the flag upside down because 0bama is presidense? (NOT A MISSPELLING) I think I’ll buy a Glock now, too!!!!! He is absolutely right.

By: west

west — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:24:10 +0000

Phil,
I can respect that but I cant respect his unrelenting negativism. I see the entertainment value in watching a guy come unglued but at the end of the day you just have a guy screaming on the radio. The world is a complex place, if he’s such a genius why doesnt he just run for office and solve all of our problems? The thing about tough talkers is they are usually only good at talking. I have heard him say things to callers that would warrant a beating if he had the guts to say it to their face.

As for the pistol, it aint going to be replacing my Colt anytime soon. It looks about as tough as Barbie’s first hand-gun.

West

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:02:59 +0000

I have listened to Savage for over ten years and love his show. Can’t wait to listen to him every night I can. All his detractors probably hate conservative talk radio, period.

If the gun functions consistently, I would buy it. As for looks, I think it’s quite attractive. A nice little pocket gun, although I’m not enthusiastic about 380s. A good gun for the ladies.

It is a little pricey, but hey, it might compete for pocket space with my Ruger LCP.

Kudos Kel-Tec!

By: Phil

Phil — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:34:19 +0000

West,

What you say is true , he can be so rude and does shut off someone who questions his opinion. I do have to turn to another station when he starts with that attitude! But he is entertaining most of the time and will present good facts about history and health issues.
I believe in a strong United States, independent of debt to countries that want to see us fail. Savage shares that opinion and thats why i continue to listen to him.
I do not want the goverment to ever have the power to silence our freedom of speech, and thats what i see in the future from the group up on the hill.
Best regards,
phil

By: West

West — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:12:33 +0000

Phil, I listened to him almost everyday for a year on my way home from work when I had a longer drive. His unchecked emotionality reminds me of a toddler. If you disagree with him you are not simply stating an opinion you are a fascist pig who deserves to burn in hell. I believe in reasonable discourse. You know, a conversation?

Its easy to stand on the sidelines and scream but when you put on a uniform and get in the middle of it things get less black & white.

Now The Gunny is a spokesman I can respect, Glock got it right again.

By: Phil

Phil — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:12:46 +0000

West, check out and listen to the man. You have to open up your mind a bit.

By: West

West — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:30:00 +0000

Right, the only thing that guy deserves to have named after him is a compost pile. Ill make a note not to ever, not that I ever have, buy a KT product if this is the kind of DB they endorse.

I cant think of a worse person to be identified with gun issues in this country.

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:17:07 +0000

Savage is a bit over the top, but gun rights are important.

By: Don

Don — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:40:35 +0000

This kind of crap makes me mad. I was going to just shut up but it seems that EVERYONE unanimously thinks Savage is a dipstick. So my two cents:

Savage is a dipstick. I’m practically misanthropic but I’m still certain that 90% of folks out there are way more intelligent than the various loud mouths and pundits on both the right AND the left.

I bet if we start physically crashing all of the Michael Savages and Michael Moores of the world into each other at high enough speed it would be better entertainment, unite all Americans, and probably also lead to the discovery of cold fusion or something like that.

And $600 for a $300 gun with a shameless commercialization of the most pivotal human rights event in history on the side? He and whoever at KT thought this was a good idea is lucky this IS a free country or they’d be black-bagged by now.

-Don

By: Veeshir

Veeshir — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:22:26 +0000

But does it come with ammo?
That’s the question.

By: John Bear Ross

John Bear Ross — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:04:10 +0000

Well, to be fair, I’ve also heard the Kel-Tec ad playing on the Phil Hendrie show, so don’t necessarily paint Kel-Tec with too broad of a brush. If you listen to a large amount of radio, like I do, you know Phil is the polar opposite of Savage.

Best,
JBR

By: Whatever

Whatever — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:22:35 +0000

Michael Savage would be one of the last persons I would want to have associated with any product I was trying to sell.

I’ve thought that if you are going to be in business it is best to keep your business face as apolitical as possible. No matter what say politically, you’re going to have roughly half the country disagree with you.

I have always thought commemorative firearms somewhat silly regardless of what they are commemorating. It seems like it’s just a shameless ploy to generate sales. Plus the idea of some object created to idolize the Bill of Rights seems strange. Understanding what it says and means would be better than having any object with words and a date.

By: SpudGun

SpudGun — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:58:29 +0000

Hmm, I think I’ll wait for the Howard Stern Uzi celebrating the Civil Rights Movement or the Ryan Seacrest AK-47 with the Declaration of Independence scrolled onto the receiver.

Or better yet, instead of pumping out this PR nonsense, why don’t Kel-Tec just release that bullpup they’ve been working on? They can write ‘Freedom’, ‘1791′ or frikkin’ ‘Burger King’ on it, I’m not really fussed.

By: Puke

Puke — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:33:13 +0000

Damn, I was excited until I read Savage’s name.
Bleh!
Sweet little pistol though. I do like what it commemorates.

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:31:12 +0000

Vak, LOL, I want a Magna Carta Sten gun

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:29:29 +0000

dogon1013, I have updated the post. Thanks.

By: XxleoxX

XxleoxX — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:35:16 +0000

ehh i dont really like kel-tec,im pretty sure i see seams on the gun >.> and im sure matt had something to do with this

By: Vak

Vak — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:12:03 +0000

Even as a (relatively left wing) european (you know, the people who gave you the sigs, glocks and berettas), I must say I think the bill of rights is a beautiful thing (especially the first amendment).

But I’m slightly unsure about that whole “commercialization” (god I hope I wrote that properly) of the thing. It wouldn feel kinda akward if… let’s say GIAT industry made a limited “1789 Bastille” edition of FAMAS or if the British made a “Habeas Corpus” Webley (which they would on the other hand). It’s the privatization and selling of something that belongs to the american people and to the history of freedom, which is something rather dubious.

Also, engraved and chromed slides on polymer lowers look ugly. If you’re going to chrome something and engrave it, do it on a revolver, a 1911 or a browning HP.

By: redmanlaw

redmanlaw — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:51:27 +0000

Kel-Tec will never get any of my hard earned firearms money for supporting Savage, and I’ve been recently been buying a gun or two a year. I also canceled an order with Glock World after its president sent out his “fly the flag upside down over the Obama presidency” message.

By: War Wolf

War Wolf — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:19:01 +0000

$600 MSRP for a Kel-Tec P-3AT? For what? A little laser engraving? That is a $250 gun for crying out loud. I am not a KT hater but damn, that’s a lot of money.

By: trip

trip — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:15:35 +0000

Um, no thank you. Some Mexican gang members may appreciate the vaguely gothic font, though.

By: J

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:02 +0000

Not political? Then why did they need to “partner” with Savage, the nuttiest right wing host in existence, to produce the word freedom and a date? Kel-tec made this political to sell guns, or just because they’re jerks like Savage. To those who like Savage, please consider the very likely possibility that he just says nutty things to get you riled up, withing really caring about or believing in the things that he says.

At any rate, the thing looks like a total piece of junk, one would hope they could sand the burrs off the plastic of at least the gun used for promotional photos and the fitting of the laser sight looks strange and cheap. Actually, the whole concept is strange. When I think 1791 I immediately think “integral laser sight”.