Kel-Tec “FREEDOM” P3AT
Kel-Tec have partnered with radio personality Michael Savage to produce a limited edition .380 P3A pistol that commemorates the ratification of the Bill of Rights.
The limited edition features:
- Hard Chromed slide.
- The word "Freedom" and "December 15, 1791" laser engraved on the slide.
- Crimson Trace laser.
- Two magazines.
| Specifications | |
|---|---|
| Caliber | .380 Auto |
| Weight unloaded | 8.3 oz. |
| Loaded magazine | 2.8 oz. |
| Length | 5.2" |
| Height | 3.5 |
| Width | .77" |
| Barrel Length | 2.7" |
| Sight radius | 3.8" |
| Muzzle Energy Max | 250ft ft/lbs |
| Capacity | 6 + 1 |
| Trigger Pull | 5 lbs |
| MSRP (Price) | $600 |
Ugh. Michael Savage? Count me out. I wouldn’t even buy a hot dog endorsed by that blowhard, much less a .380. I’m an honest-to-goodness moderate left-winger with a passionate interest in firearms. I don’t want my hobby mixed with politics, and I do my very best to keep them separate.
(Sorry about my earlier iteration of this comment. It came out unintentionally flame-baiting)
Aron, I would have thought it not very left/right political. Savage aside, it is the bill of rights it commemorates.
Steve, while you’re absolutely correct, I can’t conscientiously support a product that Savage is promoting for his own political needs. Any other non-political personality, I have no issue with. But when I see people using the power they possess from their position in the media campaigning against people and ideas I support, I lose all faith in the products they endorse.
I’m a die-hard supporter of the Bill of Rights. Even the Second Amendment (a position I don’t share with many friends with similar views to mine). But I feel that some of these talking heads (on both sides of the political spectrum — don’t get me started on Keith Olbermann — ) are misrepresenting what they stand for.
In any event, I hope Kel-Tec does well with the P3AT. They seem to be offering a fairly decent quality product at a very competitive price-point.
Kel Tec doing limited edition commemoratives… this industry is really stretching the concept.
I believe this also comes with 2 magazines, instead of the usual 1 magazine the standard pistol comes with.
Not political? Then why did they need to “partner” with Savage, the nuttiest right wing host in existence, to produce the word freedom and a date? Kel-tec made this political to sell guns, or just because they’re jerks like Savage. To those who like Savage, please consider the very likely possibility that he just says nutty things to get you riled up, withing really caring about or believing in the things that he says.
At any rate, the thing looks like a total piece of junk, one would hope they could sand the burrs off the plastic of at least the gun used for promotional photos and the fitting of the laser sight looks strange and cheap. Actually, the whole concept is strange. When I think 1791 I immediately think “integral laser sight”.
Um, no thank you. Some Mexican gang members may appreciate the vaguely gothic font, though.
$600 MSRP for a Kel-Tec P-3AT? For what? A little laser engraving? That is a $250 gun for crying out loud. I am not a KT hater but damn, that’s a lot of money.
Kel-Tec will never get any of my hard earned firearms money for supporting Savage, and I’ve been recently been buying a gun or two a year. I also canceled an order with Glock World after its president sent out his “fly the flag upside down over the Obama presidency” message.
Even as a (relatively left wing) european (you know, the people who gave you the sigs, glocks and berettas), I must say I think the bill of rights is a beautiful thing (especially the first amendment).
But I’m slightly unsure about that whole “commercialization” (god I hope I wrote that properly) of the thing. It wouldn feel kinda akward if… let’s say GIAT industry made a limited “1789 Bastille” edition of FAMAS or if the British made a “Habeas Corpus” Webley (which they would on the other hand). It’s the privatization and selling of something that belongs to the american people and to the history of freedom, which is something rather dubious.
Also, engraved and chromed slides on polymer lowers look ugly. If you’re going to chrome something and engrave it, do it on a revolver, a 1911 or a browning HP.
ehh i dont really like kel-tec,im pretty sure i see seams on the gun >.> and im sure matt had something to do with this
dogon1013, I have updated the post. Thanks.
Vak, LOL, I want a Magna Carta Sten gun
Damn, I was excited until I read Savage’s name.
Bleh!
Sweet little pistol though. I do like what it commemorates.
Hmm, I think I’ll wait for the Howard Stern Uzi celebrating the Civil Rights Movement or the Ryan Seacrest AK-47 with the Declaration of Independence scrolled onto the receiver.
Or better yet, instead of pumping out this PR nonsense, why don’t Kel-Tec just release that bullpup they’ve been working on? They can write ‘Freedom’, ‘1791′ or frikkin’ ‘Burger King’ on it, I’m not really fussed.
Michael Savage would be one of the last persons I would want to have associated with any product I was trying to sell.
I’ve thought that if you are going to be in business it is best to keep your business face as apolitical as possible. No matter what say politically, you’re going to have roughly half the country disagree with you.
I have always thought commemorative firearms somewhat silly regardless of what they are commemorating. It seems like it’s just a shameless ploy to generate sales. Plus the idea of some object created to idolize the Bill of Rights seems strange. Understanding what it says and means would be better than having any object with words and a date.
Well, to be fair, I’ve also heard the Kel-Tec ad playing on the Phil Hendrie show, so don’t necessarily paint Kel-Tec with too broad of a brush. If you listen to a large amount of radio, like I do, you know Phil is the polar opposite of Savage.
Best,
JBR
But does it come with ammo?
That’s the question.
This kind of crap makes me mad. I was going to just shut up but it seems that EVERYONE unanimously thinks Savage is a dipstick. So my two cents:
Savage is a dipstick. I’m practically misanthropic but I’m still certain that 90% of folks out there are way more intelligent than the various loud mouths and pundits on both the right AND the left.
I bet if we start physically crashing all of the Michael Savages and Michael Moores of the world into each other at high enough speed it would be better entertainment, unite all Americans, and probably also lead to the discovery of cold fusion or something like that.
And $600 for a $300 gun with a shameless commercialization of the most pivotal human rights event in history on the side? He and whoever at KT thought this was a good idea is lucky this IS a free country or they’d be black-bagged by now.
-Don
Savage is a bit over the top, but gun rights are important.
Right, the only thing that guy deserves to have named after him is a compost pile. Ill make a note not to ever, not that I ever have, buy a KT product if this is the kind of DB they endorse.
I cant think of a worse person to be identified with gun issues in this country.
West, check out and listen to the man. You have to open up your mind a bit.
Phil, I listened to him almost everyday for a year on my way home from work when I had a longer drive. His unchecked emotionality reminds me of a toddler. If you disagree with him you are not simply stating an opinion you are a fascist pig who deserves to burn in hell. I believe in reasonable discourse. You know, a conversation?
Its easy to stand on the sidelines and scream but when you put on a uniform and get in the middle of it things get less black & white.
Now The Gunny is a spokesman I can respect, Glock got it right again.
West,
What you say is true , he can be so rude and does shut off someone who questions his opinion. I do have to turn to another station when he starts with that attitude! But he is entertaining most of the time and will present good facts about history and health issues.
I believe in a strong United States, independent of debt to countries that want to see us fail. Savage shares that opinion and thats why i continue to listen to him.
I do not want the goverment to ever have the power to silence our freedom of speech, and thats what i see in the future from the group up on the hill.
Best regards,
phil
I have listened to Savage for over ten years and love his show. Can’t wait to listen to him every night I can. All his detractors probably hate conservative talk radio, period.
If the gun functions consistently, I would buy it. As for looks, I think it’s quite attractive. A nice little pocket gun, although I’m not enthusiastic about 380s. A good gun for the ladies.
It is a little pricey, but hey, it might compete for pocket space with my Ruger LCP.
Kudos Kel-Tec!
Phil,
I can respect that but I cant respect his unrelenting negativism. I see the entertainment value in watching a guy come unglued but at the end of the day you just have a guy screaming on the radio. The world is a complex place, if he’s such a genius why doesnt he just run for office and solve all of our problems? The thing about tough talkers is they are usually only good at talking. I have heard him say things to callers that would warrant a beating if he had the guts to say it to their face.
As for the pistol, it aint going to be replacing my Colt anytime soon. It looks about as tough as Barbie’s first hand-gun.
West
The Glock guy says to fly the flag upside down because 0bama is presidense? (NOT A MISSPELLING) I think I’ll buy a Glock now, too!!!!! He is absolutely right.
I like the date on the gun and the message it carries. Love or hate them Keltec is 100% USA made by people who produce space and aircraft items. I do not carry anything that small but a .380 in the pocket beats a .45 in the safe.
As the flaming against Savage, he is on the frontline fighting for the 1st ammendment. He is more constitutional than Glen Beck.
Unfortunately, most people who demonize Savage haven’t listened to more then an hour or two of his shows. At first, I thought Savage was just a guy screaming on the radio, riling people up. And maybe his delivery style turns people off who might actually agree with him.
Savage knows the left because he ran with them back in the day- he still lives in San Francisco for crying out loud! (how that works out is amazing to me)…Sometimes people don’t like hearing the truth, because the truth doesn’t always present a “feel good” emotional response. But that doesn’t take away the truth.
This new administration are indeed, acting more and more like fascists. Some of the bills that have been introduced related to firearms, for example, are completely fascist in nature. They won’t ban guns, but they would like to regulate them in a way that makes it impossible for the “common man” to own a gun.
Fascism with a smile…”we’re doing this to help society, because you can’t help yourselves”. It’s that kind of thinking that opens the door for really dangerous people with power.
And Savage calls them out…
I do like what the gun commemorates; the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment, which is currently under attack and at risk. Savage is promoting the gun; but the Kel-Tec does not endorse or commemorate Savage. Many products are endorsed by people, that many don’t agree with. But for all those whom appreciate American freedoms, we must agree, the Bill of Rights is worth “commemerating”, and that is what this gun is doing. There are many other products that do the same thing; can’t buy them all, but certainly a worthy endevor on Kel-Tec’s part. God bless America, the land of the free. And the only way it will stay that way is by fighting for, supporting, and endorsing those freedoms everyday. I lived in the UK for 6 months and in my opinion freedom and liberty beat that system hands down.
Keltec, what are you kidding. Maybe made in America, but so are Chryslers. No point in buying either.
Give me a Springfield XD any day.
Aron,
Savage is not the problem , his ideas are the solution.. He is a bit rough , but tells the truth about what is taking place in Washington!!
Pay attention to what the man has to say. Borders, language and culture are are what a great nation must maintain in order to survive.
Regards, Phil
Just bought one, small and will fit nicely in my pocket. As to those who despise Mike S – don’t bother getting in line for the gun promo from either Nacy or Harry.
Marc, I agree with just about all you say. How about IF Kel Tec would agree to donate 25% of all the sales proceeds to the NRA-ILA. IF that was done I would not mind so much spending the inflated price for the gun.
Seems like a reasonable price.
P-3AT is around $300
Crimson Trace laser is around $210
Extra magazine is around $30
That puts me at around $540 worth of stuff on a $600 MSRP.
As for Savage… I certainly don’t agree with everything he says. But he does make me THINK. That is the value I get from his program.
How ironic, this is a symbol of gun control via cost. 600$ for a 380 auto? that only 5000 rich people can have? Uhhh no.
You want to commemorate universal rights? You design the people’s gun and sell it at cost via a non profit.
This is flames on a pick up, or gun nut bling.
(Proud concealed carry permit holder.)
When you’re buying a gun either it’s worth it or not. It doesn’t matter who endoresses it. This gun is a belly gun. You can buy a mod. 1911 .45 acp for about the same price. You decide.
I dont like the font. I dont like Savage. But I do like the pistol. And I like most of Savage’s positions.
Looks like I’m 2 for 2. Maybe I’ll just buy the pistol without the font and still listen to Savage but continue to think he is a narcasist jerk.
Thats the ticket!
You can be a narcasist and still be right
I like to listen to Savage… I, at one time, thought of him as an ass that just liked to blurt out anti left crap. I’ve come to learn that what Mike says is true and to the point. For those that think of him as I once had, give him some time and you will learn to understand that he is not the blowhard that you may first think, but a man that says it like it is… The Truth, Like It Or Not… He Tells The TRUTH! Regarding the Kel-Tec, I bought one for my wife a few years ago and she and I both love it… Great gun, even without the laser sight. I carry a S&W CS .45 because the Kel-Tec is too small for my needs.
The above comments are very revealing to me. I never expected so many left leaning individuals would be savage listeners. Mike may speak with passion but one should not deny his insights. He sees through that which fools far too many – there is no other way to explain Obama’s election. No other way. By the way, Savage didn’t inform me about the issues. I was aware of the same things he spoke (and continues to speak) about – I am astonished that so many intelligent people do not see what is so obvious to me. Well, it’s obvious to Savage too.
As for KELTEC, I already own one and can vouch for its reliability and accuracy. If nothing else, it is an easy way to carry some protection wearing summer clothes.
I also have a laser sighted carry gun and must admit that it not only provides the shooter with confidence and speed in all lighting situations but is very intimidating to any would be assailant. That red dot on a bad guy’s chest will quickly change his mind!
I own 2 Kel Tec’s, a P3at and a PF9, one of them is my pocket whenever I’m out of my house. I’m a retired cop that carried a sidearm for 40 years, I’ve got Colt’s, Smith’s, Browning’s in wheel guns and autos. Now I choose to carry the Kec Tec. These guns are no more than damn fine tools, they do the job that they’re designed to do, every time. They are inexpensive and high quality. They’re not sexy, not pretty, but they’re in my pocket to protect me and mine, not to boost my ego. I recently heard about the 1791 Freedom P3, I promptly ordered one and intend to just tuck it away for my grandkids. Who in hell is Mike Savage and why does anyone care about him when making a gun purchase decision?
Hi Walt, Savage is a conservative radio talk show host. He always speaks highly of police officers . He donates money to represent them in law suit’s and sends money to their family’s when one falls in the line of duty. Example the loss of brave officers in the city of Oakland, shot by a crazed gunman..
SAVAGE DEVOTED MANY HOURS TO EXPOSE UNFAIR CONTROLS PUT ON YOUR FELLOW POLICE OFFICERS ,WHEN MAKING AN ARREST !! tHUS PUTTING THEM IN HARMS WAY, AND RESULTING IN the DEATH OF SEVERAL GOOD MEN…
SHOT WITH NO MERCY, BY A RAPIST AND STREET THUG… He is not always right in his views but does love this country and our right to carry arms and legally protect our families.. Borders, Language and Culture is his motto…
Phil
I heard the Michael Savage radio spot about this Keltec P3a commemorative .380 handgun just as everyone else did and I am not knocking it, I would rather have the P3’s bigger brother,the PF-9 which is 9mm and holds 7+1(8) rounds for under $400.This gun is still small enough to easily conceal and it fits my rather large hands better too.I can always fit it with this universal laser site I have.I already have a WWII Commemorative Colt .45 1911 anyway.With all that said,If one wants to blow $600 on this p3a hey it’s a free country.(let’s keep it that way)As for Michael Savage,I don’t care if he pitches this gun.LOve him or hate him,(I find him entertaining)He is his own man who is so conservative he makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal!! When it comes to Borders,Language and Culture though ,Savage is right on!!