Comments on: The Kushnapup: Saiga-12 bullpup kit http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Matt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-77161 Matt Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:16:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-77161 Any updates on this product? I am very interested in purchasing it, however the rumors of vaporware (and the fact that it has been 2 going on 3 years without a product) is making me hesitant to preorder. In all honesty, id rather pay the extra $75 after its debut to ensure i receive the product...than fork over $200 now and have the chance of never receiving what I paid for. Any updates on this product? I am very interested in purchasing it, however the rumors of vaporware (and the fact that it has been 2 going on 3 years without a product) is making me hesitant to preorder.

In all honesty, id rather pay the extra $75 after its debut to ensure i receive the product…than fork over $200 now and have the chance of never receiving what I paid for.

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]]> By: joe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-64852 joe Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:10:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-64852 I get emails from them all the time..i was going to order like 8 months ago...i have gotten 3 or 4 emails. and everytime the shipping date/month always moves farther ahead..i just got one today.says they are looking at shipping in august..one before that said early spring april/may..ill be looking to forward to another email in a month or two stating ETA will be october or november.. I get emails from them all the time..i was going to order like 8 months ago…i have gotten 3 or 4 emails. and everytime the shipping date/month always moves farther ahead..i just got one today.says they are looking at shipping in august..one before that said early spring april/may..ill be looking to forward to another email in a month or two stating ETA will be october or november..

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]]> By: Frank http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-62974 Frank Mon, 16 May 2011 22:24:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-62974 I got an email back from these guys a couple weeks ago: "Thanks for your interest. It looks like we're going to be shipping around July 1st - July 31st. We will post new video's when we can, once we are in full stock I could probably drop if off for you and return your shipping charge if you'd like. Production is almost done." I got an email back from these guys a couple weeks ago:

“Thanks for your interest. It looks like we’re going to be shipping around July 1st – July 31st. We will post new video’s when we can, once we are in full stock I could probably drop if off for you and return your shipping charge if you’d like. Production is almost done.”

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]]> By: weilleiu http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-54860 weilleiu Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:53:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-54860 anything to get my hands on this please! Ich Musse Habe! Yo nessicito es! anything to get my hands on this please! Ich Musse Habe! Yo nessicito es!

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]]> By: weilleiu http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-54858 weilleiu Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:51:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-54858 please oh please make this common! please oh please make this common!

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]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-51993 Mike Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:25:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-51993 I'm starting to think this is a bit of a joke. They have been taking pre-orders now since early/mid 2009, and here we are in 2011 with no release date. Sounds like they should sell off their design to let a machining company pump these out and adapt them to fit the other Saiga models. I’m starting to think this is a bit of a joke. They have been taking pre-orders now since early/mid 2009, and here we are in 2011 with no release date. Sounds like they should sell off their design to let a machining company pump these out and adapt them to fit the other Saiga models.

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]]> By: rutger http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-39471 rutger Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:09:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-39471 come on make some i wanna have one come on make some i wanna have one

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]]> By: BobSmith http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-35448 BobSmith Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:09:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-35448 I think they eat brass. I think it'd require substantial gunsmithing to make a saiga 12 bullpup lefty friendly, and this is, as far as I know, just something your drop the mechanics of the gun into. Plus, it looks like you can't get at the gas plug, which is a problem. I'm gonna wait for something better, or not bother. I think they eat brass. I think it’d require substantial gunsmithing to make a saiga 12 bullpup lefty friendly, and this is, as far as I know, just something your drop the mechanics of the gun into. Plus, it looks like you can’t get at the gas plug, which is a problem. I’m gonna wait for something better, or not bother.

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]]> By: doallyado http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-35209 doallyado Sat, 29 May 2010 05:42:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-35209 Is this ever going to be available ? Is this ever going to be available ?

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]]> By: Kilo Gulf http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-22633 Kilo Gulf Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:20:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-22633 Is this kit left hand friendly, or do the lefties eat brass? Is this kit left hand friendly, or do the lefties eat brass?

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]]> By: viper5552 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14452 viper5552 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:27:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14452 don't forget to mention the tremendous close quarters possibilities with such a powerful weapon in such a short package don’t forget to mention the tremendous close quarters possibilities with such a powerful weapon in such a short package

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]]> By: XxleoxX http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14347 XxleoxX Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:52:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14347 screw the saiga im interested in that ACOG :D screw the saiga im interested in that ACOG :D

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]]> By: Vitor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14259 Vitor Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:00:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14259 I love the recoil in bullpups, no matter how much it kicks, the muzzle climb remains low. I love the recoil in bullpups, no matter how much it kicks, the muzzle climb remains low.

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]]> By: Dom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14242 Dom Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:34:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14242 I'm into the idea that shooting from the shoulder is better than from the hip - especially if you employ a tight choke for maximum effective range - but I dunno that I'd want to give up the ability to shoot from the hip, either. Right now I use a thumb-hole stock to do both, other people use M4-style stocks...bullpup I don't even think makes it an option? I’m into the idea that shooting from the shoulder is better than from the hip – especially if you employ a tight choke for maximum effective range – but I dunno that I’d want to give up the ability to shoot from the hip, either. Right now I use a thumb-hole stock to do both, other people use M4-style stocks…bullpup I don’t even think makes it an option?

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]]> By: Canthros http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14236 Canthros Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:00:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14236 I ask because there's been a thread over at the Saiga-12.com forum for months with a couple people claiming to have ordered one without receipt. I think it looks interesting, but $275 is a more than I feel comfortable committing to practically sight unseen and on an unspecified timetable. I ask because there’s been a thread over at the Saiga-12.com forum for months with a couple people claiming to have ordered one without receipt. I think it looks interesting, but $275 is a more than I feel comfortable committing to practically sight unseen and on an unspecified timetable.

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]]> By: AB http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14234 AB Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:43:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14234 The design looks really well built and for-purpose. About the only gripe I've got is the magazine hangs so low if you twist to fire off axis, the magazine will hang on your utilities. The design looks really well built and for-purpose. About the only gripe I’ve got is the magazine hangs so low if you twist to fire off axis, the magazine will hang on your utilities.

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]]> By: SpudGun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14233 SpudGun Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:27:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14233 It certainly looks groovy. I've fired a few Saiga 12's in my time (excellent weapon) so my only concerns with this bullpup layout are - How easy is it to load magazines and cock the weapon? - Because Lord knows it's a pain in the ass with a normal Saiga 12. Pull the bolt back, press a button, try to get the little magazine lip to click in properly. Yeah, I know it can be done fluidly with lots and lots of practice, but it's not the most instinctive, user friendly or rapid system ever devised. How does the new layout effect recoil? - one of the nicest things about a Saiga 12 is the perceived recoil. I shot one all day long and compared to my pump, it was so much nicer on the shoulder. Unfortunately, unlike my Western made pump, the crude metal bits on the Saiga did have a tendency to cut my fingers into bloody ribbons. It certainly looks groovy. I’ve fired a few Saiga 12′s in my time (excellent weapon) so my only concerns with this bullpup layout are –

How easy is it to load magazines and cock the weapon? – Because Lord knows it’s a pain in the ass with a normal Saiga 12. Pull the bolt back, press a button, try to get the little magazine lip to click in properly. Yeah, I know it can be done fluidly with lots and lots of practice, but it’s not the most instinctive, user friendly or rapid system ever devised.

How does the new layout effect recoil? – one of the nicest things about a Saiga 12 is the perceived recoil. I shot one all day long and compared to my pump, it was so much nicer on the shoulder. Unfortunately, unlike my Western made pump, the crude metal bits on the Saiga did have a tendency to cut my fingers into bloody ribbons.

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]]> By: Tam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14232 Tam Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:10:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14232 For a minute, I thought someone had actually put an ACOG atop one of those things, and we had a new winner for the <i>waffenposselhaft</i> award. For a minute, I thought someone had actually put an ACOG atop one of those things, and we had a new winner for the waffenposselhaft award.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14230 Steve Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:15:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14230 Canthros, I presume so. I says to email for ordering details. Canthros, I presume so. I says to email for ordering details.

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]]> By: Canthros http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/09/the-kushnapup-saiga-12-bullpup-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-14229 Canthros Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:12:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7693#comment-14229 Is it actually available? The website has been in that same state for months. Is it actually available? The website has been in that same state for months.

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