Comments on: Benelli MR1 Carbine (Civilian Beretta Rx4 Storm)

By: JM-New Jersey

JM-New Jersey — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:27:50 +0000

I am in this ridiculously restrictive state and looking for an AR/AK platform that is legal here.

The MR1 lacks a flash-hider, bayonet lug, adjustable or folding stock which makes it entirely legal (with the 5 round magazine). I can see that it has many flaws but can anyone recommend a better alternative?

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By: Andréas

Andréas — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:00:16 +0000

Hello.
Just reporting trouble with a mounted silencer. Dont feeding in a new round but travels all the way back to be able to hock up on a emty mag.

Anyone with som tips?

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By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:04:36 +0000

you guys who laugh at “pussy” calibers make me laugh and end up paying for my lunch quite a bit. how can someone with a .308 be outshot at 250yds by a .22wmr? oh yeah you are too busy overcompensating for something small with your big bullets. Yeah too much of a man to shoot a .22 wow

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By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:15:28 +0000

Is it just me, or does the angle of the stock and the drop at the comb look pretty extreme? there is a reason most rifles nowadays follow the AR’s footsteps with the inline barrel and stock, all a drop at the comb does is add to muzzle climb. this rifle looks like its trying to be different and clever, just for the sake of being different and clever. I will keep my AR-15

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By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:10:29 +0000

I held one of these a few days ago, my impression is its just wrong it tries to do too many things at once, and it fails to do any one thing well, if you are not a fan of the ar platform for whatever your reason may be, I hear alot of whining about its unreliability in vietnam and the 5.56′s shortcomings with penetration and so on, both are pretty baseless arguments, the problems in vietnam were because of a combination of the powder being used lack of cleaning, because they werent issued kits, and they didnt produce the design that was tested and selected for service. just another example of corner cutting and penny saving, costing more in the end. So why complain about a problem that hasnt been an issue in 40yrs? I can understand Vets having a bad taste in there mouth over losing friends over that, It was a terible thing to have happen, our servicemen deserve the best. but that doesnt mean a rifle built 2 months ago has any of those issues. now onto the .223 that was the caliber of the MR1/R1 i saw, yes FMJ ammo isnt the best bullet, but as a civilian you dont have to use fmj ammo and its all about placement. my brother in law is a game warden and he catches more poachers taking deer with 22lr’s than any other gun, its all about energy transfer, a bullet that stops in the target transfers all its energy, a fmj .223 or .308 that goes through a target at 50 yds, they both will, is a waste. and the .050″ difference in diameter really doesnt matter, especially when most rounds in a firefight never find there target. Back to the MR1 id take my bushmaster AR or a M14 or an Ak over one of those goofy halfbreed italian rifles anyday, they are too expensive and not accurate enough and not proven, my 16″ bushmaster with 55gr FMJ BT AE ammo shoots better than 2moa, wich is the accuracy most get out of the MR1 sure there will be the occasional “match grade” accurate rifle but its the exception not the rule.

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By: Abe

Abe — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 02:41:50 +0000

Looks cool, but it’s got a pussy caliber – please .30 anything over these mouse rounds.

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By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:43:34 +0000

I recently purchased the MR1 to go with my collection. I haven’t shot it yet but plan to this week. It is a very solid feeling rifle. I have taken it apart for an initial check and clean/lube. It did make me think some when I went to re assemble it but I should have no problems the next time. The only problem at this time I have found and corrected was the stock was lower when I tried a cheek weld on it. I purchased a padded cheek rest from Blackhawk and Voila, problem solved. I will report back after I shoot it on the grouping I am able to obtain.

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By: Pollux

Pollux — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:49:11 +0000

I don’t foresee popularity. $1300 for a trumped up shotgun receiver with a 1:9 pencil thin barrel with no threads? A thousand times pass, as a commercial investment. Please don’t mistake me, I think the gas system is much more functional than any bolt shearing piston AR conversion will ever be until a new lug system is devised (or a way to restore the order of operations). But I simply cant shell out that much money for a shotgun retrofit, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Might be a great gun, but I cant see it getting into the black gun treehouse for cool kids nor the budget conscious plinker/home defender market.

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By: jsp

jsp — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:14:40 +0000

Hey

you have the word “value” where I think you meant valve in the text.
Right here: “The high pressure is regulated by a release value.” Please delete my comment after you fix it.

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By: guido pagliai

guido pagliai — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:06:04 +0000

hi
i stay in italy ,the rifle is good but too expensive in my country
i prefer a feg .223 for money value.
the benelli rifle is not catalogated as hunting rifle but tactical advance firearm.
its only an export joke, no military use civilian use.
in the middle……………

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By: Barbara

Barbara — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:07:35 +0000

I purchased an MR1 about 3 months ago as I just don’t like AR’s but do like my Benelli M2′s very much. I have enjoyed the weapon and have fired about 2K rounds through it with no problems. I don’t know what it will shoot for a group as I never go onto the bench except for the initial sighting in. It does what I want and is pretty good at hitting most anything I aim at. I have an Aimpoint on it right now but will move over to a scope for coyotes.

If you like the feel of a Benelli shotgun you will like the feel of this gun too. It is a bit heavy but not bad, and it comes on point very easy. It doesn’t have the big offset sight issue of the AR but does have some offset to deal with.

It breaks down easy for cleaning if you know how to pull apart a Benelli shotgun but my intimidate someone the first time they pull it apart. I clean my weapons every time after shooting but this gun runs clean so that is up to you.

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By: Larry R

Larry R — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:49:53 +0000

On accuracy: G&A had one that shot sub moa groups. AR could barely beat two inches. Mine will shoot selected handloads into sub moa but even Fiocchi match with 69 SMKs is a 1.5″ proposition. The stock has too much drop for a scope in the extra high rings needed to clear the irons but a Brownells neoprene cheeckpiece works fine to fix that.

As an owner of two R-1s (270 WSM & 300 Winmag), I think Benelli builds great guns. Both of them do one MOA or better. BTW the R-1 was never made in the real 270 WCF and IMO their choice of calibers is odd. No 9.3×62 and who would want a 308 when a 30-06 is available ? The addition of WSMs is just marketing as neither will do a thing the plain old 270 and 300 Winmag don’t already do. Short action cartridges in a long action…. why ??

With the ease of barrel swaps, I hope MR-1 barrels come out for all the 223 based cartridges but with Benelli logic is not always followed.

My R-1 270 WSM w/Nightforce 2.5-10×32

[IMG]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z231/leadloader/DSCN3062.jpg[/IMG]

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By: simpsomi

simpsomi — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:27:26 +0000

As Milt says ….”any idea on the accuracy?” I have been searching the net for an aswer on that and have yet to read it.

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By: Milt

Milt — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:54:05 +0000

Has anyone checked it’s accuracy?

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By: JERRY

JERRY — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:03:12 +0000

I BOUGHT AND SHOT MY MR1 YESTERDAY, FORTUNATELY I LIVE IN A AREA WHERE I CAN SHOOT FREELY! THIS CARBINE SHOTS AND HANDLES VERY WELL.

THANK YOU

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By: Sean Ingram

Sean Ingram — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:24:51 +0000

I’m interested in one that is chambered in 7.62×39 and uses AK mags.

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By: B Woodman

B Woodman — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:36:19 +0000

Matt Groom,
My apologies, my error. I should have had a reference in front of me when I wrote that last missive on the 5.56 vs 5.45.

As to the stock, now I understand what you’re talking about. I thought it was only on the aesthetics.

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By: R.A.W.

R.A.W. — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:15:05 +0000

I don’t think that having the gas port and mechanism drilled close to the firing chamber would present a thermal challenge. If nothing else, you could make the gas system out of the same stuff as the barrel, which does not seem to erode unduly under full auto fire.

I do think that the 5.45 compares nicely to the 5.56, if one compares the original loadings for each. M193 ball isn’t an especially awe-inspiring load, especially at range, and the 5.45 did have a somewhat better BC. M855 seems to trounce the old “poison bullet” 5.45 loads, but then there isn’t much published information on later 5.45 service loads, so perhaps they even the gap.

Now, 6mm SAW, which looked for all the world like a scaled up 5.45mm; that was the stuff of dreams.

Oh, and speaking of 5.45mm weapons, here’s a diagram of a Nikonov:

http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/001527/1527726.jpg

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By: Matt Groom

Matt Groom — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:18:19 +0000

I never implied that it shoots better, I merely said it was a better cartridge design. The 5.56 was designed to launch a 55grain, lead cored projectile through a Steel helmet at 500 yards, which is a rediculous test, but the 7.62 NATO could do it, so the Army insisted the 5.56 do it too.

All experience hath shown that the 5.45×39 shoots far WORSE than the 5.56. I just like that it’s designed for longer bullets which could have a higher BC (If they were a standard caliber) and potentially better fragmentation capability at lower velocities because of their length. That would all be dependent on better bullet designs, which at this point do not exist for the 5.45×39.

Just try to find a boxer primed brass case in that caliber.

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By: Allen

Allen — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:18:56 +0000

This new Benelli MR1 has Italian design written all over it. Almost to the point of overkill. Sorry fella’s but it’s just too streamlined and outright sexy for this ugly old man. But it is about the mechanics and not not aesthetics.Time will tell if it’s reliable. Think I’ll stick to my old school AR’s, thank you.

I’m aslo wondering why Benelli didn’t chamber the MR1 in 5.45X39? I whole heartedly believe that the 5.45X39 is far superior cartridge design to it’s western counterpart the 5.56 NATO. Wait a second, that’s impossible! There is no superior or “magical” properties involved within any particular cartridge design of the same caliber. I forgot, all .22 caliber centerfire rifle cartridges are created, or can be willfully manipulated, to shoot exactly the same. Shame on me.

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