Comments on: Hungarian Less Lethal Pump Action Double Barreled Gun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: wilson http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-39163 wilson Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:17:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-39163 i need more information about it i need more information about it

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]]> By: gvass http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23237 gvass Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:38:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-23237 Effect of the 18 mm rubber bullet, highspeed video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8i5HLY7kco Onesta in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHgZ_AUbwLo&translated=1 Effect of the 18 mm rubber bullet, highspeed video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8i5HLY7kco

Onesta in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHgZ_AUbwLo&translated=1

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]]> By: WildBear http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23148 WildBear Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:25:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-23148 There is an another interesting weapon from Keseru Muvek (Budapest, Hungary): the four-shooter Onesta revolver. (Onesta means "loyalty"). This enormous revolver is powered by a .380R blank cartridges and shoots four 18mm rubber ball with same muzzle energy like this shotgun. This single action only revolver is made from aluminium and steel (barrel, firing pin, etc). I bought one in our local gunstore (GunBox, Budapest) There is two versions from the lenght of the barrel; http://gunbox.park.itigia.hu/img/product/347.jpg Regards; Bear There is an another interesting weapon from Keseru Muvek (Budapest, Hungary): the four-shooter Onesta revolver. (Onesta means “loyalty”).
This enormous revolver is powered by a .380R blank cartridges and shoots four 18mm rubber ball with same muzzle energy like this shotgun.
This single action only revolver is made from aluminium and steel (barrel, firing pin, etc).
I bought one in our local gunstore (GunBox, Budapest)
There is two versions from the lenght of the barrel;
http://gunbox.park.itigia.hu/img/product/347.jpg

Regards; Bear

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]]> By: Zoltan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23144 Zoltan Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:35:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-23144 What can make a rubber bullet from 3 meters? http://www.kalasnyikov.hu/index.php?page=galeria&album=48 http://www.kalasnyikov.hu/index.php?page=galeria&album=79 The meat is some pig, wich is almost the same anatomy with a human body. What can make a rubber bullet from 3 meters?

http://www.kalasnyikov.hu/index.php?page=galeria&album=48
http://www.kalasnyikov.hu/index.php?page=galeria&album=79

The meat is some pig, wich is almost the same anatomy with a human body.

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]]> By: John B. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23142 John B. Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:10:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-23142 Plumps down, but doesn't kill!!! Very impressive!!! Plumps down, but doesn’t kill!!!

Very impressive!!!

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]]> By: gvass http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23140 gvass Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:25:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-23140 "I suspect the local laws require the projectile and propellent to be loaded into the chamber separately, so innovative the locals came up with this duel chamber system. " This is the exact situation, simplified: anything not working with modern united cartridge, is NOT considered as firearm here. The newest prototype is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFftkXvMyZI That monster is practically a very big revolver, where you load the 9 mm R. Blank from the back, and 18 mm rubber balls from the front INTO the cylinder. 12 or 24-shot. I hope it will be available by 2010 May. The shooter is actually the owner of the gun factory. “I suspect the local laws require the projectile and propellent to be loaded into the chamber separately, so innovative the locals came up with this duel chamber system.
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This is the exact situation, simplified: anything not working with modern united cartridge, is NOT considered as firearm here.

The newest prototype is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFftkXvMyZI

That monster is practically a very big revolver, where you load the 9 mm R. Blank from the back, and 18 mm rubber balls from the front INTO the cylinder. 12 or 24-shot. I hope it will be available by 2010 May.

The shooter is actually the owner of the gun factory.

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]]> By: merckywaters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-13810 merckywaters Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:31:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-13810 the mobile phone and fully auto mini uzi-like bb gun are cool too! http://www.keseru.hu/dealer_micro_co_en.php http://www.keseru.hu/tel_ww_en.php the mobile phone and fully auto mini uzi-like bb gun are cool too!
http://www.keseru.hu/dealer_micro_co_en.php
http://www.keseru.hu/tel_ww_en.php

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]]> By: Advocate http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12888 Advocate Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:08:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-12888 i'd think that lower firing pin could be better engineered... can anyone spot the potential weak point? i’d think that lower firing pin could be better engineered… can anyone spot the potential weak point?

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]]> By: cavalier http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12815 cavalier Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:30:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-12815 The company makes some interesting stuff. Any insight on US legality? On the one hand they may not be considered 'firearms' at all. On the other they may be considered short-barreled shotguns, as well as failing the 'sporting use' requirement. There is a certain irony in a less-lethal weapon being MORE restricted than an actual firearm. The company makes some interesting stuff. Any insight on US legality? On the one hand they may not be considered ‘firearms’ at all. On the other they may be considered short-barreled shotguns, as well as failing the ‘sporting use’ requirement. There is a certain irony in a less-lethal weapon being MORE restricted than an actual firearm.

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]]> By: Mu http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12813 Mu Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:36:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-12813 hmm, that thing an a sabot flechette round; all kinds of fun things you can do with something like that. hmm, that thing an a sabot flechette round; all kinds of fun things you can do with something like that.

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]]> By: CMathews http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12812 CMathews Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:37:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-12812 Necesity is the mother of invention Necesity is the mother of invention

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/08/03/hungarian-less-lethal-pump-action-double-barreled-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12805 Matt Groom Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:16:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7266#comment-12805 Perhaps not ideal, but better than nothing, and woe be unto the fool who decides to stand on the receiving end instead of cutting and running. The little fin stabilized rubber balls we used in the USMC were propelled by just the primer, and bean bags have a very small charge, probably less than the .380 rimmed, and either of those is considered lethal at ranges under 15 yards. I haven't been shot by one, but I'm not volunteering, either. It looks like it needs some kind of ejection system for when you open the pump handle. I couldn't tell if he pulled the fired chambers out or if they ejected. Perhaps not ideal, but better than nothing, and woe be unto the fool who decides to stand on the receiving end instead of cutting and running.

The little fin stabilized rubber balls we used in the USMC were propelled by just the primer, and bean bags have a very small charge, probably less than the .380 rimmed, and either of those is considered lethal at ranges under 15 yards. I haven’t been shot by one, but I’m not volunteering, either.

It looks like it needs some kind of ejection system for when you open the pump handle. I couldn’t tell if he pulled the fired chambers out or if they ejected.

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