Comments on: Taser X3 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Noize Pollution http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-40860 Noize Pollution Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:36:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-40860 No doubt one can be protected from a taser using Faraday technology. I first learned of it a couple years ago when I saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzga6qAaBA I'm not sure about the practicality or effectiveness of chainmail but taserproof chothing is in the works. Paten has been applied for. Now lets see if the Gov. tries to outlaw it........ http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/man_files_patent_for_taserproo.php No doubt one can be protected from a taser using Faraday
technology. I first learned of it a couple years ago when I
saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzga6qAaBA

I’m not sure about the practicality or effectiveness of chainmail
but taserproof chothing is in the works. Paten has been applied
for. Now lets see if the Gov. tries to outlaw it……..

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/man_files_patent_for_taserproo.php

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]]> By: Ian http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-24914 Ian Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:12:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-24914 @Valhalla actually the taser generally is more effective against heavily musclebound attackers as there is more muscle for it to act upon. @Valhalla actually the taser generally is more effective against heavily musclebound attackers as there is more muscle for it to act upon.

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]]> By: merckywaters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-13814 merckywaters Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:42:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-13814 those r some cute protestors those r some cute protestors

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]]> By: 3legdog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12646 3legdog Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:08:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12646 You guys actually think this is a cool product? To give to already over-amped and full-of-themselves police? Wow. You guys actually think this is a cool product? To give to already over-amped and full-of-themselves police?

Wow.

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]]> By: John http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12618 John Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:41:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12618 I don't see this as a black and white issue. I think having the *option* of using less-than-lethal force is great, especially for law enforcement. Most of us don't have a single gun and a single holster because we don't want to limit our options. Tasers are just another tool and if a taser keeps an officer who would otherwise have to rely on hand-to-hand or an ASP from getting injured, I'm all for it. I'd rather have my local PD spend a few hundred bucks on a taser than see a cop get hurt. Having said that I see two problems. 1. As tasers are becoming standard issue even in small communities both the good and the bad guys will start to adapt. Getting tasered used to result in a mandatory call for EMS here. These days getting tasered is no big deal (unless there are medical complications) and there will inevitably be cases where tasers are used as AAD (attitude adjustment devices). 2. The anti-self-defense lobby may actually use this against us and some people will get it in their heads that law-abiding citizens don't need guns. After all, the cops have tasers so that should be good enough for civilians too, right? Wrong. You and I know that. And the person arguing might even know that but that is sure as heck not going to stop them from spreading propaganda. I don’t see this as a black and white issue. I think having the *option* of using less-than-lethal force is great, especially for law enforcement. Most of us don’t have a single gun and a single holster because we don’t want to limit our options. Tasers are just another tool and if a taser keeps an officer who would otherwise have to rely on hand-to-hand or an ASP from getting injured, I’m all for it. I’d rather have my local PD spend a few hundred bucks on a taser than see a cop get hurt.

Having said that I see two problems.

1. As tasers are becoming standard issue even in small communities both the good and the bad guys will start to adapt. Getting tasered used to result in a mandatory call for EMS here. These days getting tasered is no big deal (unless there are medical complications) and there will inevitably be cases where tasers are used as AAD (attitude adjustment devices).

2. The anti-self-defense lobby may actually use this against us and some people will get it in their heads that law-abiding citizens don’t need guns. After all, the cops have tasers so that should be good enough for civilians too, right? Wrong. You and I know that. And the person arguing might even know that but that is sure as heck not going to stop them from spreading propaganda.

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]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12616 jdun1911 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:58:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12616 You know what the main problem with these type of Taser? The pistol grip. In high stress situation cops might pull the wrong weapon to use. You know what the main problem with these type of Taser? The pistol grip. In high stress situation cops might pull the wrong weapon to use.

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]]> By: Phil http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12615 Phil Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:47:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12615 Puke, everything in this world can be abused. Besides, "peaceful protest" is an oxymoron. This will save some belt space currently taken up by an extra cartridge Puke, everything in this world can be abused. Besides, “peaceful protest” is an oxymoron.

This will save some belt space currently taken up by an extra cartridge

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]]> By: Mad Saint Jack http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12612 Mad Saint Jack Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:02:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12612 I have a regular stun gun. I have always wondered if it could be used in “Scary Arc Mode” to stop a dog from charging. I have a regular stun gun. I have always wondered if it could be used in “Scary Arc Mode” to stop a dog from charging.

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12608 Matt Groom Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:44:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12608 And it's only marginally larger than a small sub-machine gun. A regular Taser might kill you if misused, but this one is, like, three of them! Yea! Guns without consequences! And it’s only marginally larger than a small sub-machine gun. A regular Taser might kill you if misused, but this one is, like, three of them! Yea! Guns without consequences!

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]]> By: Don http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12601 Don Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:22:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12601 Enter, Taser proof clothing. http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/man_files_patent_for_taserproo.php I think it's conductive cloth, like wearing a Faraday cage. Should short the taser through the jacket. -D Enter, Taser proof clothing.

http://www.geekologie.com/2007/11/man_files_patent_for_taserproo.php

I think it’s conductive cloth, like wearing a Faraday cage. Should short the taser through the jacket.

-D

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]]> By: Dave K http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12599 Dave K Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:50:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12599 Oh good now the Canadian RCMP can murder THREE innocent people without having to reload and claim the latter two became hysterical at the Tasering of the first; and still wipe their hands clean claiming it was an “unfortunate rare occurrence.” Oh good now the Canadian RCMP can murder THREE innocent people without having to reload and claim the latter two became hysterical at the Tasering of the first; and still wipe their hands clean claiming it was an “unfortunate rare occurrence.”

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]]> By: Valhalla http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12598 Valhalla Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:04:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12598 A couple things: 1.) They are girls! Less body mass to spread the electrical charge, and, on average, weaker overall bodies. 2.) I know they have to let them go down and all, but wouldn't it be better to get some crazy Army guy and see if he can still move (so double pad thickness) while being tazed. 3.) With the threat of a 9mm maybe some people would stop being stupid, either that or the media needs it for portraying every cop to ever use a firearm as a cold blooded killer with racist intent (despite the fact he popped a skinhead's center of mass). But hey, still cool. Next, I wanna see riot control sniper Tasers. A couple things:

1.) They are girls! Less body mass to spread the electrical charge, and, on average, weaker overall bodies.
2.) I know they have to let them go down and all, but wouldn’t it be better to get some crazy Army guy and see if he can still move (so double pad thickness) while being tazed.
3.) With the threat of a 9mm maybe some people would stop being stupid, either that or the media needs it for portraying every cop to ever use a firearm as a cold blooded killer with racist intent (despite the fact he popped a skinhead’s center of mass).

But hey, still cool. Next, I wanna see riot control sniper Tasers.

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]]> By: AB http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12597 AB Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:37:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12597 @Puke Bud, there are way worse ways that protestors can and will be abused from. All of them just as painful and rather more lethal than this device can put out. Have you ever been hit with a riot baton? Butt-stroked with a shotgun? Hit with a high pressure water cannon? Had a tear-gas grenade shot into your chest? Had a tear gas grenade held on to your body as it went off? If people are going to be abused(I'm a pragmatic person) I'd rather have them be shocked with this than abused with the other methods described above. There are no real non-lethal ways of subduing a human being. There are only less than lethal or very less than lethal. This is a go0od step toward very less than lethal. @Puke
Bud, there are way worse ways that protestors can and will be abused from. All of them just as painful and rather more lethal than this device can put out.

Have you ever been hit with a riot baton? Butt-stroked with a shotgun? Hit with a high pressure water cannon? Had a tear-gas grenade shot into your chest? Had a tear gas grenade held on to your body as it went off?

If people are going to be abused(I’m a pragmatic person) I’d rather have them be shocked with this than abused with the other methods described above.

There are no real non-lethal ways of subduing a human being. There are only less than lethal or very less than lethal. This is a go0od step toward very less than lethal.

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]]> By: Rob http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12594 Rob Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:24:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12594 More tasers the better. Give cops more options. A man ended up with a bullet in him cos the police didnt have a taser, just unnessesary: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2680196/Shooting-second-in-month-tasers-not-available More tasers the better. Give cops more options. A man ended up with a bullet in him cos the police didnt have a taser, just unnessesary:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2680196/Shooting-second-in-month-tasers-not-available

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]]> By: Puke http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/28/taser-x3/comment-page-1/#comment-12591 Puke Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:12:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7216#comment-12591 To be abused on peaceful protesters in a city near you! To be abused on peaceful protesters in a city near you!

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