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	<title>Comments on: Tactical Arms: New show hosted by Larry Vickers</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve watched two episodes thus far (the MAG-58 and Mk.12) and I&#039;m extremely underwhelmed.  It&#039;s obvious the show is watered down so your average couch potato can follow it.  No technical analysis, very brief and shallow discussion of history and designs that influenced them.  In fact the Mk.12 episode entirely skipped the establishment of the &quot;designated marksman&quot; throughout the World Wars and Korea, jumping right to the M16A1 in Vietnam being the &quot;father&quot; of the gun.  Functionally yes, but tactically I disagree.

It&#039;s actually kind of painful to watch the hosts, all veteran professionals in the field, force themselves into using layman&#039;s terms constantly.  Calling the Mk.12 a &quot;sniper rifle&quot;, for example.  I&#039;m not sure who the producers think the target audience is, but I&#039;m pretty sure the audience they&#039;ll end up getting can handle big boy terms like &quot;designated marksman&quot;!

Overall the show has a disappointing lack of real content.  While I applaud the efforts of the hosts in introducing military small arms to the masses in a sensible way, I was truly hoping for something more than &quot;here&#039;s a gun, it shoots bullets, it&#039;s good for X in combat&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched two episodes thus far (the MAG-58 and Mk.12) and I&#8217;m extremely underwhelmed.  It&#8217;s obvious the show is watered down so your average couch potato can follow it.  No technical analysis, very brief and shallow discussion of history and designs that influenced them.  In fact the Mk.12 episode entirely skipped the establishment of the &#8220;designated marksman&#8221; throughout the World Wars and Korea, jumping right to the M16A1 in Vietnam being the &#8220;father&#8221; of the gun.  Functionally yes, but tactically I disagree.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually kind of painful to watch the hosts, all veteran professionals in the field, force themselves into using layman&#8217;s terms constantly.  Calling the Mk.12 a &#8220;sniper rifle&#8221;, for example.  I&#8217;m not sure who the producers think the target audience is, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the audience they&#8217;ll end up getting can handle big boy terms like &#8220;designated marksman&#8221;!</p>
<p>Overall the show has a disappointing lack of real content.  While I applaud the efforts of the hosts in introducing military small arms to the masses in a sensible way, I was truly hoping for something more than &#8220;here&#8217;s a gun, it shoots bullets, it&#8217;s good for X in combat&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB, thanks for the link. That&#039;s a much better article than the one on the Kalashnikov guns. For example, here&#039;s a segment that reveals the author at least understands shooters: 

&quot;Despite decades of strict regulation due to the fear of their use in poaching and homicides, silencers are still in vogue because they protect a shooter’s ears.
Unlike in the movies, silencers do not make guns whisper quiet, but they do bring the noise level down to a level that will not cause hearing damage. Just like the muffler on your car.&quot; 

As for the new show, I am hopeful. A lot of people have made fun of the late Steve Irwin&#039;s verbal style, but that Mack guy on Future Weapons is truly ridiculous. He constantly tries so hard to sound macho that he just comes off as a big clown. I prefer a little more tact with my tactical gear. I&#039;m also hoping for more technical analysis. One of my favorite parts of getting a new gun is stripping it into pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB, thanks for the link. That&#8217;s a much better article than the one on the Kalashnikov guns. For example, here&#8217;s a segment that reveals the author at least understands shooters: </p>
<p>&#8220;Despite decades of strict regulation due to the fear of their use in poaching and homicides, silencers are still in vogue because they protect a shooter’s ears.<br />
Unlike in the movies, silencers do not make guns whisper quiet, but they do bring the noise level down to a level that will not cause hearing damage. Just like the muffler on your car.&#8221; </p>
<p>As for the new show, I am hopeful. A lot of people have made fun of the late Steve Irwin&#8217;s verbal style, but that Mack guy on Future Weapons is truly ridiculous. He constantly tries so hard to sound macho that he just comes off as a big clown. I prefer a little more tact with my tactical gear. I&#8217;m also hoping for more technical analysis. One of my favorite parts of getting a new gun is stripping it into pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it&#039;s better than Future Weapons, that program was a joke. He made it sound like everything he touched was great. The one with the Kriss was hysterical considering the reports I read about them.

Every weapon was deadly......LMAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it&#8217;s better than Future Weapons, that program was a joke. He made it sound like everything he touched was great. The one with the Kriss was hysterical considering the reports I read about them.</p>
<p>Every weapon was deadly&#8230;&#8230;LMAO.</p>
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		<title>By: AB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if this would make the show or not, but it&#039;s an interesting set of oddities. 

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/gun-accessories/3/



http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2009/07/gun_accessories_3a.jpg

Yes, a can holder on a rifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this would make the show or not, but it&#8217;s an interesting set of oddities. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/gun-accessories/3/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/gun-accessories/3/</a></p>
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<p>Yes, a can holder on a rifle.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good, I hate Future Weapons. It&#039;s all crap that&#039;s designed for big brother and scripted by the marketing departments of the various companies that are selling it. That show is a Statist&#039;s wet dream and hopefully this show will be geared more towards operators and people who actually know what they&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good, I hate Future Weapons. It&#8217;s all crap that&#8217;s designed for big brother and scripted by the marketing departments of the various companies that are selling it. That show is a Statist&#8217;s wet dream and hopefully this show will be geared more towards operators and people who actually know what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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