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	<title>Comments on: With gun prices so high, surley Mexican criminals are looking elsehwere</title>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/14/which-gun-prices-what-they-are-surley-mexican-criminals-are-looking-elsehwere/#comment-12172</link>
		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not take much skills to produce a firearms. 10 years old kids are making firearms out of their home in third world countries. 

Invest in a $5,000 CNC machine. Put the pre-made instruction in the computer that you can find anywhere on the internet. Press start, go watch a movie. Come back and the part will be ready to assemble. 

Firearms are simple machine. The problem with most Americans is that the public school system does not teach basic mechanical skills. So what you have is a lot of people thinking it is hard to produce anything that require you to work with your hands. 

We spend more per kid in education then any country in the world. Yet morons are coming out of the system. African kids can speak and write at least two language and can do math. These kids used text books that was publish before WWII. So something is terrible wrong with our public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not take much skills to produce a firearms. 10 years old kids are making firearms out of their home in third world countries. </p>
<p>Invest in a $5,000 CNC machine. Put the pre-made instruction in the computer that you can find anywhere on the internet. Press start, go watch a movie. Come back and the part will be ready to assemble. </p>
<p>Firearms are simple machine. The problem with most Americans is that the public school system does not teach basic mechanical skills. So what you have is a lot of people thinking it is hard to produce anything that require you to work with your hands. </p>
<p>We spend more per kid in education then any country in the world. Yet morons are coming out of the system. African kids can speak and write at least two language and can do math. These kids used text books that was publish before WWII. So something is terrible wrong with our public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen some very well made firearms coming out of the black market in Mexico, so they&#039;re are some people there who can use a Mill and a Lathe, asuming they haven&#039;t migrated north. The 4.6L DOHC engine used in my Mercury Marauder as well as the &#039;97 Mustang Cobra was manufactured in Mexico (the rest of the car was assembled in Ottawa, Canada. Let&#039;s hear it for the unions!). 

Machinists have to make a living, too, and that does not mean they will not be willing to make firearms if that&#039;s the best way to pay their bills. A small machine shop has everything necessary to make any kind of firearm. They can make widgets by day, and guns by night, and nobody would be the wiser. Considering that most of Mexico&#039;s police and government officials are on the cartel&#039;s payrolls, what makes you think they wouldn&#039;t be able to blatantly make firearms and sell them if they could sell them to the cartels at a profit?

My argument has always been that if a manufactured item that is in high demand is outlawed, people will buy it from the lowest priced source. If it is cheaper to manufacture illicitly in country, then it will be built domestically. Look at the kind of &quot;home made&quot; guns they find in places like India, as shown in past posts on this blog. They&#039;re making some nice stuff! A good machinist can make a copy of any mechanical device if the price is right.

The reason the guns used in crime in Mexico are not from the US by and large is because it is cheaper to buy them from other countries where they are more mobile because civilian ownership is completely forbidden. In the US, we buy them and sit on them for decades, raising the prices as well as the demand. In other parts of the world, they buy them, use them, then sell them because they have to get rid of them! If it wasn&#039;t cheaper this way, they would build them in Mexico, and the illicit firearms built there would be appearing HERE, not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen some very well made firearms coming out of the black market in Mexico, so they&#8217;re are some people there who can use a Mill and a Lathe, asuming they haven&#8217;t migrated north. The 4.6L DOHC engine used in my Mercury Marauder as well as the &#8216;97 Mustang Cobra was manufactured in Mexico (the rest of the car was assembled in Ottawa, Canada. Let&#8217;s hear it for the unions!). </p>
<p>Machinists have to make a living, too, and that does not mean they will not be willing to make firearms if that&#8217;s the best way to pay their bills. A small machine shop has everything necessary to make any kind of firearm. They can make widgets by day, and guns by night, and nobody would be the wiser. Considering that most of Mexico&#8217;s police and government officials are on the cartel&#8217;s payrolls, what makes you think they wouldn&#8217;t be able to blatantly make firearms and sell them if they could sell them to the cartels at a profit?</p>
<p>My argument has always been that if a manufactured item that is in high demand is outlawed, people will buy it from the lowest priced source. If it is cheaper to manufacture illicitly in country, then it will be built domestically. Look at the kind of &#8220;home made&#8221; guns they find in places like India, as shown in past posts on this blog. They&#8217;re making some nice stuff! A good machinist can make a copy of any mechanical device if the price is right.</p>
<p>The reason the guns used in crime in Mexico are not from the US by and large is because it is cheaper to buy them from other countries where they are more mobile because civilian ownership is completely forbidden. In the US, we buy them and sit on them for decades, raising the prices as well as the demand. In other parts of the world, they buy them, use them, then sell them because they have to get rid of them! If it wasn&#8217;t cheaper this way, they would build them in Mexico, and the illicit firearms built there would be appearing HERE, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a sad state of affairs when we are forced to buy semi-auto only copies of AK&#039;s for $500-1200 or pay mini fortunes for the real deal ones when you could get the real deal ones in Yemen for as low as $20!!!!  It sucks when you are forced to be ripped off when you know a great deal is somewhere else but unobtainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a sad state of affairs when we are forced to buy semi-auto only copies of AK&#8217;s for $500-1200 or pay mini fortunes for the real deal ones when you could get the real deal ones in Yemen for as low as $20!!!!  It sucks when you are forced to be ripped off when you know a great deal is somewhere else but unobtainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Freiheit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freiheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdun1911 - If they had the skills needed to use a $1000 mill to make something useful then they really wouldn&#039;t need to be criminals to make a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdun1911 &#8211; If they had the skills needed to use a $1000 mill to make something useful then they really wouldn&#8217;t need to be criminals to make a living.</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by = buy. Should proof read before hitting summit :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by = buy. Should proof read before hitting summit <img src='http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got to be a moron to think that Mexicans drug gangs will by overpriced firearms that are illegally shipped across the boarder. $1000 is a lot of money in Mexico. They are better off buying the tooling to produce their own weapons. 

A $1000 milling machine from China can produce all the weapons you like</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got to be a moron to think that Mexicans drug gangs will by overpriced firearms that are illegally shipped across the boarder. $1000 is a lot of money in Mexico. They are better off buying the tooling to produce their own weapons. </p>
<p>A $1000 milling machine from China can produce all the weapons you like</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Ortmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven Ortmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t expect them to buy arms in the first place

They&#039;re organized criminals and should be able to plunder a whole store at night.

Semi-auto is probably even better than full auto. I have yet to see photos of Mexican criminals with enough magazines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect them to buy arms in the first place</p>
<p>They&#8217;re organized criminals and should be able to plunder a whole store at night.</p>
<p>Semi-auto is probably even better than full auto. I have yet to see photos of Mexican criminals with enough magazines.</p>
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