Comments on: Tactilite .50 BMG AR-15 Upper http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:18:29 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jeff Powell http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-15886 Jeff Powell Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:07:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-15886 I think the word these people are looking for is impulse. While the total force is not reduced, because of impulse, the actual damage that force does is. Its like Cymond said. Except instead of a hard punch all at once 4 punches that are 1/4 of the strength happening over time. I think the word these people are looking for is impulse. While the total force is not reduced, because of impulse, the actual damage that force does is. Its like Cymond said. Except instead of a hard punch all at once 4 punches that are 1/4 of the strength happening over time.

]]> By: Kamil Arikut http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-12102 Kamil Arikut Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:07:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-12102 Dear Safir and AT 14 users, I am writing you below the address of the web site opened by the Turkish Safir T 14 users and owners club , they have opened a visitors blog in English too, to interchange ideas with their foreign counterparts and get in contact with the T14 users worldwide.They have events and such, please participate. www.safir-t14.com Youre very much welcome to visit and get in touch. Kamil Arikut Safir Arms Dear Safir and AT 14 users,

I am writing you below the address of the web site opened by the Turkish Safir T 14 users and owners club , they have opened a visitors blog in English too, to interchange ideas with their foreign counterparts and get in contact with the T14 users worldwide.They have events and such, please participate.

http://www.safir-t14.com

Youre very much welcome to visit and get in touch.

Kamil Arikut

Safir Arms

]]> By: Ben http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11839 Ben Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:26:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11839 I've owned and fired a few thousand rounds of .50 on a DPMS single shot lower attached to both an 18" UltraLite-50 and 22" UltraMag-50 conversions. Absolutely no extra wear or stress on the lower attachment points. There's actually LESS felt recoil from the shorter barrels as the bullet exits sooner and consequently all that extra powder and gas behind it gets used up in the muzzle brake. No problem hitting a 400yd gong at a local range. My UltraLite is setup with just the iron sights and my UltraMag has a OKO red-dot. I’ve owned and fired a few thousand rounds of .50 on a DPMS single shot lower attached to both an 18″ UltraLite-50 and 22″ UltraMag-50 conversions. Absolutely no extra wear or stress on the lower attachment points.

There’s actually LESS felt recoil from the shorter barrels as the bullet exits sooner and consequently all that extra powder and gas behind it gets used up in the muzzle brake.

No problem hitting a 400yd gong at a local range.
My UltraLite is setup with just the iron sights and my UltraMag has a OKO red-dot.

]]> By: Nick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11814 Nick Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:15:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11814 Okay, but there's a difference between throwing the intricate working bits of a scope off target, and tearing aluminum. Okay, but there’s a difference between throwing the intricate working bits of a scope off target, and tearing aluminum.

]]> By: Freiheit http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11812 Freiheit Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:09:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11812 Well, lets settle this durability issue. If someone would care to have an AR lower and one of these uppers shipped to me, with a few thousand rounds of ammo, I will happily cover range time, take notes, pictures, and find out how durable it is. :D Well, lets settle this durability issue. If someone would care to have an AR lower and one of these uppers shipped to me, with a few thousand rounds of ammo, I will happily cover range time, take notes, pictures, and find out how durable it is. :D

]]> By: Cymond http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11802 Cymond Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:05:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11802 Nick, the concern is the stress from the recoil. The upper will recoil backwards, putting force through the lower/shoulder stock and into the shooter. Hopefully, most of the force is absorbed by the muzzle brake, gun's weight*, and physical movement. Still, there will be some strain on the lower. Scopes technically don't take any stress either, but watch what happens if you put a cheap scope on a high powered rifle and shoot enough rounds. Eventually you can shock and vibrate a cheap scope to the point that it won't hold its zero anymore. That's why most scopes are labeled as "shock proof". *Gun weight doesn't actually reduce the force, but it slows it down. It's like the difference between a fast punch vs a hard shove. Nick, the concern is the stress from the recoil. The upper will recoil backwards, putting force through the lower/shoulder stock and into the shooter. Hopefully, most of the force is absorbed by the muzzle brake, gun’s weight*, and physical movement. Still, there will be some strain on the lower.

Scopes technically don’t take any stress either, but watch what happens if you put a cheap scope on a high powered rifle and shoot enough rounds. Eventually you can shock and vibrate a cheap scope to the point that it won’t hold its zero anymore. That’s why most scopes are labeled as “shock proof”.

*Gun weight doesn’t actually reduce the force, but it slows it down. It’s like the difference between a fast punch vs a hard shove.

]]> By: Nick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11800 Nick Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:02:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11800 It's a single shot bolt rifle. There's no buffer or spring, so there's no stress placed on the lower. All the stress is on the upper and bolt lugs. It’s a single shot bolt rifle. There’s no buffer or spring, so there’s no stress placed on the lower. All the stress is on the upper and bolt lugs.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11798 Steve Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:52:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11798 Vote, yep, there would be a lot of blast ... not always a bad thing :) Vote, yep, there would be a lot of blast … not always a bad thing :)

]]> By: Vote For David http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11789 Vote For David Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:01:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11789 Nevermind that, how about the blast/report from a 18" .50BMG rifle? Nevermind that, how about the blast/report from a 18″ .50BMG rifle?

]]> By: JS http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11787 JS Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:27:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11787 This is cool and all (I'd love a .50 BMG Barrett 82A1), but why would you want a "lite" .50 BMG with a ultra-short barrel and without a bi-pod? These things are designed to shoot far, and the extra weight helps reduce the recoil. This is cool and all (I’d love a .50 BMG Barrett 82A1), but why would you want a “lite” .50 BMG with a ultra-short barrel and without a bi-pod? These things are designed to shoot far, and the extra weight helps reduce the recoil.

]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11778 Carl Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:10:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11778 Mainsail: My thoughts exactly. AR parts on a .50 BMG rifle seems like a recipe for fatigue cracks and various other problems. I'm guessing this seemingly questionable design is mainly driven by stupid rules and regulations. Mainsail: My thoughts exactly. AR parts on a .50 BMG rifle seems like a recipe for fatigue cracks and various other problems.
I’m guessing this seemingly questionable design is mainly driven by stupid rules and regulations.

]]> By: mmathers http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11775 mmathers Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:24:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11775 All the recoil is delivered in a linear fashion from the chamber straight back into the buffer tube/stock. The lower is really just there to have something to put the trigger bits inside of. --- as for having a 18.5" barrel 50cal that's designed for being shot from the shoulder? That sounds perfect for varmiting :) All the recoil is delivered in a linear fashion from the chamber straight back into the buffer tube/stock. The lower is really just there to have something to put the trigger bits inside of.

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as for having a 18.5″ barrel 50cal that’s designed for being shot from the shoulder? That sounds perfect for varmiting :)

]]> By: Canthros http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11768 Canthros Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:07:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11768 Something about having 'ultralight' and '.50 BMG' in the same sentence sounds dreadfully uncomfortable to me. Something about having ‘ultralight’ and ‘.50 BMG’ in the same sentence sounds dreadfully uncomfortable to me.

]]> By: Mainsail http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11762 Mainsail Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:40:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11762 Not knowing much about the AR-15 platform, but is the alloy lower really up to the power of the 50cal? The hinge mount is hardly designed for the increased recoil. Not knowing much about the AR-15 platform, but is the alloy lower really up to the power of the 50cal?

The hinge mount is hardly designed for the increased recoil.

]]> By: XxleoxX http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/08/tactilite-50-bmg-ar-15-upper/#comment-11761 XxleoxX Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:33:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7035#comment-11761 doesnt seem like a bad idea :) i would get one doesnt seem like a bad idea :) i would get one

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