Saddam’s Glock 18C may go on display


The NY Times reports that the Glock Saddam Hussein had with him when he was captured may go on display at the George W. Bush Presidential Center

Before Mr. Bush left the White House in January, he made arrangements for the gun to be shipped to a national archives warehouse just 18 miles north of his new home in Dallas. His foundation said a final decision had not been made on including the gun in the presidential library. But his associates and visitors to the White House said Mr. Bush had told them of his intention to display it there.

I actually had no idea the pistol found on Saddam was a Glock 18C. In my mind I always pictured him clutching an old Makarov. The Glock 18C is a fully automatic machine pistol and is probably the best choice of weapon for someone hiding in a spider hole, although the pistol was ironically unloaded at the time he was captured.

Hat Tip: Conservative Scalawag



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  • Matt Groom

    I can say this for that old, dead bastard: he had excellent taste in firearms.

  • John Conner

    I don’t think it was a Glock. I remember at the time there was a photo of something else and it was unloaded when they grabbed him, which I thought was odd. What was the point of being in a hole you can’t get out of with a unloaded gun?

  • Brad

    Huh, I didn’t know the Glock 18 came in a comp model. Makes a lot of sense though.

  • Kerry

    There is a joke somewhere here about gun locks and keeping guns unloaded while hiding in holes in the ground…

  • Clodboy

    To Austrians, Saddam using a Glock isn’t particularly surprising considering how Saddam Hussein and Gaston Glock shared a mutual acquaintance in the infamous ultra-rightist governor of Carinthia, the late Jörg Haider, who had a notorious habit of coddling Middle Eastern dictators (to be fair, Glock supposedly severed ties with Haider when he professed Austria’s complete support for the Iraqi regime just before the war)

  • Matt Groom

    What the hell is an “Ultra-Rightist”?

  • Clodboy

    Ultra-rightist = a person so far on the right of the political spectrum it’s not even funny

    Haider basically wooed dictators like Qadaffi and Hussein, as well as domestic organizations of Waffen-SS-veterans, was the head of a party whose base was largely comprised of former nazis, nazi-sympathizers and neo-nazis and thought that the Federal Republic of Austria was “born as an ideological monstrosity” with an employment policy inferior to that of the Third Reich.
    Of course, the lines between either side of the political extremes tend to blur together, but seeing as how Haider thought everybody else simply was to the far left of him (he actually saw his own party as the only centrist one, go figure), we can safely infer that “far right” would probably be the most apt description of his political views.

    Now, I am by no means saying you should stop buying Glocks – they’re obviously a great gun, and hey, Austria can sure use the money – I’m just saying that while Gaston Glock deserves everybody’s respect for his personal success story, there is probably good reason he tries to keep his personal and political dealings out of the news.

    But enough of my rant – it’s “firearms, not politics”, after all 🙂

  • Matt Groom

    Clodboy,

    I believe your assertions are correct, but the whole “Left wing/ Right wing” thing is horrifically confused here in the US. Basically, it’s a sliding scale with totalitarian dictorships, 1984 style-Dystopias, and complete theocracies being on the same side, which is the far left. Anarchy would be the extreme right, with more and more government being added the closer to the center you get. Anarchy tends to decay into Monarchy, and Totalitarian systems seem to collapse in on themselves, so the pendulum seems to swing back and forth between true right and true left.

    This is the understanding of the use of the term “Left wing” in every country in the world except the U.S. For example, nobody, and I mean nobody who isn’t a Communist refers to themselves as “Left Wing” in Europe, and there never has been, nor could there conceivably ever be some one who described themselves as being “further left” than the Marxists of various stripes.

    The confusion comes from the intentional misuse of terms. Example: If you’re standing on the extreme left, and you look to your immediate right, you don’t see the extreme right, or even the center, but simply what is to the right of you on the extreme left. Therefore, what is “Right wing” to you is probably still Left wing to everybody else.

    The American media has been, since at least the 1960’s, useful idiots for Soviet Socialism and they parroted the lingo of their masters for so long that we all simply accept their incorrect verbiage today. The use of the term “Right wing” like any reference to “Classes” in America was intended as slander is something that is completely concocted by Marxist Propagandists in what is today referred to as “The Mainstream Media” and the Intelligencia like college professors.

    The Soviets were the only people who ever referred to the National Socialists as “Right Wing”. The terms originally applied to the political spectrum of various Socialist ideologies in terms of extremism, with Communism being universally considered more extreme and more totalitarian than Nazism or Fascism. Fascism was originally promoted as being a “Third Way” between hardcore Free-Marketism and hardcore Communism. Nearly every form of “Third-way” Socialism that existed in Europe and continues to exist around the world was voted into power, but Communist regimes have always been brought to power by violence and force.

    The Nazis didn’t call themselves “Right wing”, the called free-market types “Right Wing”. Nobody in Europe today calls Neo National Socialists “Right wing”; they call them “the extreme left”, etc.

    I’m not even going to go into the misuse of the term “Liberal” which I think more and more people are becoming aware of.

    Steve,

    I know the policy, but guns are a very political subject. My entire interest in history and politics (which is simply history that is happening right now) stems from my interest in firearms. As Mao said: “Political Power grows out of the barrel of a gun”.

    • ok guys. back on topic.

  • free2game

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    Bradon 08 Jul 2009 at 8:25 pm link comment

    Huh, I didn’t know the Glock 18 came in a comp model. Makes a lot of sense though.
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    I think that means compensated not compact, glocks all have specific designations for compact models.

  • verukah

    It’s a Glock, alright. I’m a docent at the Meadows Museum at SMU and laid my eyes on it for the first time today.

  • D

    Yea….a dictator can own a full auto but not us serfs….

  • Jason F.

    I believe doing whatever and owning whatever the hell you want is part of the whole basic dictator package. Maybe my marketing brochure is outdated though.