Comments on: Safir Arms T-14 .410 AR-15 Uppers now available http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Yonkers http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-70050 Yonkers Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:21:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-70050 This is bull shit. This gun is a piece of crap. Chinese make better than this. I know there are a lot Turkish manufacturers that make better quality than this. Safir no way matches lthat. Safir only gives bad named to Turkish manufacturers. Sarsilmaz, Huglu, Akdal, Tisas, they make really good excellent guns unlike Safir. This is bull shit. This gun is a piece of crap. Chinese make better than this. I know there are a lot Turkish manufacturers that make better quality than this. Safir no way matches lthat. Safir only gives bad named to Turkish manufacturers. Sarsilmaz, Huglu, Akdal, Tisas, they make really good excellent guns unlike Safir.

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]]> By: scott http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-70005 scott Sun, 21 Aug 2011 03:41:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-70005 i just bought an ati upper in 410 at a gun show for 100 bucks! a lil grinding had been done to the upper and i did not get a mag the guy said he lost it but it is functional i shot it one at a time seems nice and you can adjust the pressure for different shells if you have cycleing problems ive heard you can mod a standard ar mag to work does anybody know about mags shoot me an email scotty82g@yahoo thanks for any help i just bought an ati upper in 410 at a gun show for 100 bucks! a lil grinding had been done to the upper and i did not get a mag the guy said he lost it but it is functional i shot it one at a time seems nice and you can adjust the pressure for different shells if you have cycleing problems ive heard you can mod a standard ar mag to work does anybody know about mags shoot me an email scotty82g@yahoo thanks for any help

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]]> By: Dawood Qureshi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-63407 Dawood Qureshi Sat, 21 May 2011 17:02:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-63407 T-14 Uppers and shotguns, flat top and Carry handle will be available with us at our New Jersey facility soon, within 1-2 weeks. Please check out our website. T-14 Uppers and shotguns, flat top and Carry handle will be available with us at our New Jersey facility soon, within 1-2 weeks. Please check out our website.

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]]> By: WileyR http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-59908 WileyR Mon, 11 Apr 2011 03:25:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-59908 Have you priced .410 shells lately? I've shot a .410 since I was about 10 and decided long ago that the 3 inch shell was a minimal load for anything larger than a squirrel or rabbit, and a .410 is more of an experts weapon for anything that flies. Having said that it would probably be a fun gun for shooting cans and much like the Judge 45/.410 revolver, it looks menacing. Have you priced .410 shells lately? I’ve shot a .410 since I was about 10 and decided long ago that the 3 inch shell was a minimal load for anything larger than a squirrel or rabbit, and a .410 is more of an experts weapon for anything that flies. Having said that it would probably be a fun gun for shooting cans and much like the Judge 45/.410 revolver, it looks menacing.

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]]> By: Dawood Qureshi http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-59849 Dawood Qureshi Sat, 09 Apr 2011 15:37:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-59849 Dear Chuck, Safir Arms LLC NJ will have guns in stock by another 30-40 days. The intial batch distributed through a distributor did have jamming problems with some brands of ammunition. This shotgun is chambered for 2 1/2 inch shells. Practically, it is found that different manufacturers' 2 1/2 inch shells are not the same size. Actually most 2 1/2 inch shells are between 2-5/16 and 2-3/8 inches. Some fit with no problems, some rub a bit but work and others are just too big. When you buy the gun through a dealer, you will get a note on the recommended ammunition. I am sure, if you keep the gun lubricated and use the recommended Ammo, you will not have problem. Safir Arms LLC NJ Dear Chuck,

Safir Arms LLC NJ will have guns in stock by another 30-40 days. The intial batch distributed through a distributor did have jamming problems with some brands of ammunition.

This shotgun is chambered for 2 1/2 inch shells. Practically, it is found that different manufacturers’ 2 1/2 inch shells are not the same size. Actually most 2 1/2 inch shells are between 2-5/16 and 2-3/8 inches. Some fit with no problems, some rub a bit but work and others are just too big.

When you buy the gun through a dealer, you will get a note on the recommended ammunition. I am sure, if you keep the gun lubricated and use the recommended Ammo, you will not have problem.

Safir Arms LLC NJ

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]]> By: chuck http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-52886 chuck Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:23:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-52886 Hi, I'm considering about buying a safirarms t40 rifle, But the negative comments about jaming problems Are making me think twice about this, could any onwner enlighten me on this subject. Thanxs Hi, I’m considering about buying a safirarms t40 rifle,
But the negative comments about jaming problems
Are making me think twice about this, could any onwner enlighten me on this subject.

Thanxs

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]]> By: Wiley Rutledge http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-46387 Wiley Rutledge Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:24:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-46387 I've shot a .410 since the days of paper cases and have ALWAYS noticed the differences in length, in 2.5 and 3" (magnum???) shells. The 2.5 has approximately the same projectile weight as the typical .45 Colt shell. I have a friend who has a Judge and he has to buy Remington (I think) shells for it to rotate correctly. In this case IMHO it's kinda like buying a Judge because it looks wicked (perception of power?) rather than considering a more powerful gun that may not look so wicked. Having said that I think the .410 upper would be a good alternate for in home protection and I bet it would be a fun gun to pass around at the range. BTW, the 1 3/8 12's were initially made for entry weapons for Entry teams to provide a modicum of power (blowing locks, etc.) and increased magazine capacity. I’ve shot a .410 since the days of paper cases and have ALWAYS noticed the differences in length, in 2.5 and 3″ (magnum???) shells. The 2.5 has approximately the same projectile weight as the typical .45 Colt shell. I have a friend who has a Judge and he has to buy Remington (I think) shells for it to rotate correctly. In this case IMHO it’s kinda like buying a Judge because it looks wicked (perception of power?) rather than considering a more powerful gun that may not look so wicked. Having said that I think the .410 upper would be a good alternate for in home protection and I bet it would be a fun gun to pass around at the range.
BTW, the 1 3/8 12′s were initially made for entry weapons for Entry teams to provide a modicum of power (blowing locks, etc.) and increased magazine capacity.

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]]> By: Eric http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-36619 Eric Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:57:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-36619 My question is on the gas system......... How much back pressure is needed to cycle the bolt. On regaurds of shorting the barrel to 11.5. My question is on the gas system……… How much back pressure is needed to cycle the bolt. On regaurds of shorting the barrel to 11.5.

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]]> By: dano http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-35050 dano Thu, 27 May 2010 23:30:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-35050 John, in my case it doesn't seem to be the tension of the spring but more so lubricating the shells? I've found that if I shoot bird shot which has ribbed shells my gun seems to jam more. If I shoot only Buck shot or slugs which have no ribs on the shells it seems to work much better. I also lightly lube the shells prior to putting them in the mag. But in any event its never a fully reliable gun in my opinion. Mine jams a lot. I also have two plastic mags and two steel mags. The plastic ones don't seem to work as well as the steel. John, in my case it doesn’t seem to be the tension of the spring but more so lubricating the shells? I’ve found that if I shoot bird shot which has ribbed shells my gun seems to jam more. If I shoot only Buck shot or slugs which have no ribs on the shells it seems to work much better. I also lightly lube the shells prior to putting them in the mag. But in any event its never a fully reliable gun in my opinion. Mine jams a lot. I also have two plastic mags and two steel mags. The plastic ones don’t seem to work as well as the steel.

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]]> By: biomed http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-35034 biomed Thu, 27 May 2010 21:28:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-35034 Iam looking for another mag for my shotgun, I use a S&W MP15 Lower , , went to the range to shoot clays, the range master was taken back, he loved it, every one who sees it ..thinks it is cool Iam looking for another mag for my shotgun, I use a S&W MP15 Lower , , went to the range to shoot clays, the range master was taken back, he loved it, every one who sees it ..thinks it is cool

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]]> By: john warner http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-35033 john warner Thu, 27 May 2010 21:24:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-35033 i own one , the spring in the mag is weak, Jams i own one , the spring in the mag is weak, Jams

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]]> By: PoPo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-26256 PoPo Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:29:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-26256 Has anyone heard of any law enforcement use with this .410 guage shotgun Has anyone heard of any law enforcement use with this .410 guage shotgun

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]]> By: dcbeattie http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-25266 dcbeattie Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:15:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-25266 I have been using Remington sporting clays(they are gold colored) with 8.5 pellets. That length is just about the max.. I had to be careful to whack the mag to make sure all was well. Winchester will not fit in the mag. I just bought some federal 7 1/2's that fit better than the Remington's. It looks as if the Federals are all a little shorter than some of the others. Estate 410 are supposed to fit also. I don't have a store that sells them so I can't tell for sure. Take the mag to the store with you. That's what I did. I was sort of surprised that 2 1/2 shot shells are that different. I am still waiting to pick up a couple of extra magazines and maybe a 14 shot one for fun. I have been using Remington sporting clays(they are gold colored) with 8.5 pellets. That length is just about the max.. I had to be careful to whack the mag to make sure all was well. Winchester will not fit in the mag. I just bought some federal 7 1/2′s that fit better than the Remington’s. It looks as if the Federals are all a little shorter than some of the others. Estate 410 are supposed to fit also. I don’t have a store that sells them so I can’t tell for sure. Take the mag to the store with you. That’s what I did. I was sort of surprised that 2 1/2 shot shells are that different. I am still waiting to pick up a couple of extra magazines and maybe a 14 shot one for fun.

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]]> By: brian http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-23593 brian Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:05:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-23593 Just got one today. They do fit ar15 lowers. 2-1/2 inch shells were too tight to freely move in the magazine. Does anyone make shorter shells. Right now im filing out the back of the plastic magazine and have the shell moving freely. Will have to till tomorrow to shoot and see if it feeds Just got one today. They do fit ar15 lowers. 2-1/2 inch shells were too tight to freely move in the magazine. Does anyone make shorter shells. Right now im filing out the back of the plastic magazine and have the shell moving freely. Will have to till tomorrow to shoot and see if it feeds

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]]> By: ace http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-23555 ace Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:29:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-23555 will not work FA. I just checked the BCG, it is semi-auto type. I am still trying to find out if the 15 rd. mags will work in a standard lower (mags from cope's). will not work FA. I just checked the BCG, it is semi-auto type.

I am still trying to find out if the 15 rd. mags will work in a standard lower (mags from cope’s).

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]]> By: cruzan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-22969 cruzan Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:00:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-22969 They are usually at gun shows and at gunbroker.com or gunsamerica. But shop wisely - many sell them for $ 750- $ 1,000 - but shop around, like I posted, got mine for $ 499 new ! They are usually at gun shows and at gunbroker.com or gunsamerica. But shop wisely – many sell them for $ 750- $ 1,000 – but shop around, like I posted, got mine for $ 499 new !

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]]> By: jafish http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-22682 jafish Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:06:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-22682 Ok, where can this actually be purchased? I've searched AIM's website and it isn't there, the link in the blog goes to an error page and I've googled it and gotten nowhere. So, please, help me out here. On a side note, I love the blog. Ok, where can this actually be purchased? I’ve searched AIM’s website and it isn’t there, the link in the blog goes to an error page and I’ve googled it and gotten nowhere. So, please, help me out here.

On a side note, I love the blog.

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]]> By: Jim Eley http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-21406 Jim Eley Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:30:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-21406 I wonder whether this would work on a full-auto lower? Any ideas? I wonder whether this would work on a full-auto lower? Any ideas?

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]]> By: cruzan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-15052 cruzan Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:44:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-15052 I purchased the T14, got a great deal, new for $ 499 ( complete rifle ) ! I have since purchased a 223 upper and interchange them ! Questionable I guess wether a .410, AR type shotgun is worthwhile - but it's cool looking, has been totally reliable for me, and is fun to shoot ! I purchased the T14, got a great deal, new for $ 499 ( complete rifle ) ! I have since purchased a 223 upper and interchange them ! Questionable I guess wether a .410, AR type shotgun is worthwhile – but it’s cool looking, has been totally reliable for me, and is fun to shoot !

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]]> By: Tom O. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/06/safir-arms-t-14-410-ar-15-uppers-now-available/comment-page-1/#comment-14738 Tom O. Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:10:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=7003#comment-14738 I am thinking of buying a Safir Arms T-14 410 shotgun. I have only seen the 5 round magazine avalible. Where can I buy magazines with larger capacities? I have heard the 30 round AR-15 magazines can be converted to accept 2.5 inch 410 shotgun shells. Is this true and how difficult is the conversion? I am thinking of buying a Safir Arms T-14 410 shotgun. I have only seen the 5 round magazine avalible. Where can I buy magazines with larger capacities? I have heard the 30 round AR-15 magazines can be converted to accept 2.5 inch 410 shotgun shells. Is this true and how difficult is the conversion?

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