Comments on: 5 Weapons that should’ve been in Transformers 2 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Yosaphat Agni http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-60475 Yosaphat Agni Sat, 16 Apr 2011 12:41:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-60475 Here's a list of weapons in Transformers 2. Some are maybe enough to destroy a robot. http://www.imfdb.org/w/Transformers:_Revenge_of_the_Fallen Here’s a list of weapons in Transformers 2.
Some are maybe enough to destroy a robot.
http://www.imfdb.org/w/Transformers:_Revenge_of_the_Fallen

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]]> By: Jacob Thomas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-58160 Jacob Thomas Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:47:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-58160 I am not trolling, and i am simply previding a view point to think about. Sorry for miss spelling and any wrong facts in my previous comment! I am not trolling, and i am simply previding a view point to think about. Sorry for miss spelling and any wrong facts in my previous comment!

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]]> By: Jacob Thomas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-58159 Jacob Thomas Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:44:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-58159 First of all i do agree that they should be using some way bigger guns. Secnd i wouldn't like to point out that to own an m4-m16 or any sort of assualt rifle isn't the heardest thing in the world, it is possible they just wanted to make it look like the humans were so outgunned that they couldn't win, ten bam! they win. Although i am most likely wrong. thirdly i'd like to point out that everthing on those (m4's) the (Air Force) epc ops were using were set up like a real soldiers weapon. The handel that you guys are saying make the weapon look more space-age is nothing more then a tactical grip that can be baught at any gun store. And if you're refering to the handel behind the grenade launchers, that is a smaller grenade launcher that comes with a handel and trigger (unlike the M203 that usualy fits on an M4. The small boxes that have two wholes on the front, that are n either the top or sides of the weapon is a laser designater. And before you say that a 5.56 round is not even recemmened for dear hunting you might want to look at what a round like that will do to a human. (However i personally prefer the 7.62 round the AK-47) fires. Also the soldiers carry what they're quilified to carry. You don't think soldiers get handed stuff they can't een use do you? esspecially special operation teams. First of all i do agree that they should be using some way bigger guns. Secnd i wouldn’t like to point out that to own an m4-m16 or any sort of assualt rifle isn’t the heardest thing in the world, it is possible they just wanted to make it look like the humans were so outgunned that they couldn’t win, ten bam! they win. Although i am most likely wrong. thirdly i’d like to point out that everthing on those (m4′s) the (Air Force) epc ops were using were set up like a real soldiers weapon. The handel that you guys are saying make the weapon look more space-age is nothing more then a tactical grip that can be baught at any gun store. And if you’re refering to the handel behind the grenade launchers, that is a smaller grenade launcher that comes with a handel and trigger (unlike the M203 that usualy fits on an M4. The small boxes that have two wholes on the front, that are n either the top or sides of the weapon is a laser designater. And before you say that a 5.56 round is not even recemmened for dear hunting you might want to look at what a round like that will do to a human. (However i personally prefer the 7.62 round the AK-47) fires. Also the soldiers carry what they’re quilified to carry. You don’t think soldiers get handed stuff they can’t een use do you? esspecially special operation teams.

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]]> By: TJ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-40711 TJ Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:17:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-40711 I was also wondering why they brought along the pistols as well. What in case they get into an argument again like in the first movie? Imo they should have had the Javelin anti-tank launcher, fire and forget, can be shot from long range. I was also wondering why they brought along the pistols as well. What in case they get into an argument again like in the first movie? Imo they should have had the Javelin anti-tank launcher, fire and forget, can be shot from long range.

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]]> By: Minigun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-35159 Minigun Fri, 28 May 2010 18:52:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-35159 I think you failed to mention that the M134 G minigun from Garwood Industries was in Transformers 2. It is way more sophisticated than the Dillon Aero minigun and I'm glad they chose to use it in this movie. I mean look at the weapon www.GarwoodIndustries.com !!!! I think you failed to mention that the M134 G minigun from Garwood Industries was in Transformers 2. It is way more sophisticated than the Dillon Aero minigun and I’m glad they chose to use it in this movie. I mean look at the weapon http://www.GarwoodIndustries.com !!!!

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]]> By: Nick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-28989 Nick Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:18:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-28989 for Mu You are thinking of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868 in refence to exploding rounds, not the Geneva Convention. for Mu

You are thinking of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868 in refence to exploding rounds, not the Geneva Convention.

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]]> By: bombsquad http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-24934 bombsquad Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:25:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-24934 "The M16 fires the 5.56mm NATO round...not even considered powerful enough to hunt deer" Actually the .223 reminton is becoming a popular hunting round and variants of the ar 15 are being sold as hunting rifles. It just depends on how good of a shot you are and what your family would do if you showed ip for a hunting trip carring an ar15 lol. I dont use one but i got this out of one of my Outdoor life magazines from 2008. some of the rifles are customized to hold a slightly larger round like the .260 rem that goes in the panther LR-260L. also on a side note is very popular with female shooters for its light weight and low recoil. The new AR15's are also very customizable makeing them agood choice for hunting trips with plenty of variables. “The M16 fires the 5.56mm NATO round…not even considered powerful enough to hunt deer”

Actually the .223 reminton is becoming a popular hunting round and variants of the ar 15 are being sold as hunting rifles. It just depends on how good of a shot you are and what your family would do if you showed ip for a hunting trip carring an ar15 lol. I dont use one but i got this out of one of my Outdoor life magazines from 2008. some of the rifles are customized to hold a slightly larger round like the .260 rem that goes in the panther LR-260L. also on a side note is very popular with female shooters for its light weight and low recoil. The new AR15′s are also very customizable makeing them agood choice for hunting trips with plenty of variables.

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]]> By: Nathaniel http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23437 Nathaniel Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:08:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-23437 First of all, Transformers 2 had so many gaping plot holes that it can be hardly expected to offer a competent weapons set. Thirdly, the Neopup PAW and the NTW-20 were both featured in District 9 in the mech battle scene. Which was a wholly better movie, if you ask me. First of all, Transformers 2 had so many gaping plot holes that it can be hardly expected to offer a competent weapons set.

Thirdly, the Neopup PAW and the NTW-20 were both featured in District 9 in the mech battle scene.

Which was a wholly better movie, if you ask me.

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]]> By: Brendan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-17502 Brendan Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-17502 Many of these great anti-robot weapons were not in the Transformers movie but some of these weapons such as the PMP Neopup PAW, Denel NTW-20 and RPG-7 were actually in another movie called District 9 when the soldiers were trying take out an alien robot and these weapons did great damage on it. Many of these great anti-robot weapons were not in the Transformers movie but some of these weapons such as the PMP Neopup PAW, Denel NTW-20 and RPG-7 were actually in another movie called District 9 when the soldiers were trying take out an alien robot and these weapons did great damage on it.

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]]> By: Gortos http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-16363 Gortos Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:38:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-16363 They are about 30 meters and their techs are more advanced than ours - so I'm pretty sure they have better armor than a modern tank. I'd not go for it with something smaller than a Javelin... They are about 30 meters and their techs are more advanced than ours – so I’m pretty sure they have better armor than a modern tank. I’d not go for it with something smaller than a Javelin…

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]]> By: Komrad http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-15098 Komrad Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:01:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-15098 You guys should check out this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaJP3Lp0Gg You guys should check out this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaJP3Lp0Gg

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]]> By: Eddy A http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12799 Eddy A Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:53:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-12799 yeah, they are similar in style. but its just that the transformers2 guards are MASSIVE. i've been looking and looking for a pic... but i guess they are just too ashamed of their unreal guns to post stills lol yeah, they are similar in style. but its just that the transformers2 guards are MASSIVE. i’ve been looking and looking for a pic… but i guess they are just too ashamed of their unreal guns to post stills lol

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]]> By: Sean Connelly http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12798 Sean Connelly Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:52:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-12798 yes i just got mine in, and attached them on my rifle, they look alot like them, minus the ris yes i just got mine in, and attached them on my rifle, they look alot like them, minus the ris

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]]> By: Eddy A http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12743 Eddy A Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:49:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-12743 those were NOT magpul's MOE hand guards. have you used those yet? they are very lightweight and streamlined. not the huge mess on the transformers 2 m4's. those were some hollywood creation to make the rifles look futuristic. they only achieved to make them look unrealistic.. or at the least, inefficient. those were NOT magpul’s MOE hand guards. have you used those yet? they are very lightweight and streamlined. not the huge mess on the transformers 2 m4′s. those were some hollywood creation to make the rifles look futuristic. they only achieved to make them look unrealistic.. or at the least, inefficient.

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]]> By: Sean Connelly http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12742 Sean Connelly Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:32:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-12742 the hand guard on the m4s was the branad new Magpul MOE hand guard, there were 203 launchers under some of the hand guards. the story line never claims that they are .223 remington rounds used by our military, there are however .50 caliber rounds that are only slightly larger than the .223 rounds, and without opening it up, and checking the mag, you couldnt tell from the outside. these .50 rounds are much stronger than .223 rounds, and could easily shred a decepticon, they are like shorter range .50 cal rounds from a machine gun. with the funding an operation like NEST would have i wouldnt be surprised if this is what they were using. the MGL was used in the first movie, and i believe it was also used in the second. i think that given the nature of the threat sniper rifles would be of little use because if deceticons were as advanced as it would seem they could notice, and dodge sniper rounds from 1000 yards off, and get in close enough that sniper rifles espesially ones as big as you were showing would be useless, the NEST team used guns that spewed out high volume of fire, mostly providing the distraction needed for the autobots to take down the decepticons. without detailed information from the people who put togeather the action sequence you can not be sure if it was indeed well enough put togeather for this to work though the hand guard on the m4s was the branad new Magpul MOE hand guard, there were 203 launchers under some of the hand guards. the story line never claims that they are .223 remington rounds used by our military, there are however .50 caliber rounds that are only slightly larger than the .223 rounds, and without opening it up, and checking the mag, you couldnt tell from the outside. these .50 rounds are much stronger than .223 rounds, and could easily shred a decepticon, they are like shorter range .50 cal rounds from a machine gun. with the funding an operation like NEST would have i wouldnt be surprised if this is what they were using. the MGL was used in the first movie, and i believe it was also used in the second. i think that given the nature of the threat sniper rifles would be of little use because if deceticons were as advanced as it would seem they could notice, and dodge sniper rounds from 1000 yards off, and get in close enough that sniper rifles espesially ones as big as you were showing would be useless, the NEST team used guns that spewed out high volume of fire, mostly providing the distraction needed for the autobots to take down the decepticons. without detailed information from the people who put togeather the action sequence you can not be sure if it was indeed well enough put togeather for this to work though

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]]> By: Ted http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11928 Ted Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:19:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-11928 How could you leave out the China Lake pump-action 40mm?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lake_NATIC How could you leave out the China Lake pump-action 40mm?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lake_NATIC

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]]> By: Groot Mamba http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11873 Groot Mamba Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:28:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-11873 Thanks for a great blog. I have been in the fortunate position to fire both weapons: Neopup and NTW20mm. The NTW20mm comes in the 20 x 110 Hisspano as well. This is truly a beast. Sniping has become easy since your projectile must land/impact in close proximity to the target..Kaboom!!! The Neopup is really nice! You can put HE etc into a house window 400m away with great accuracy and in record time( getting onto the target). Yes the 40mm packs a punch but try to put it into a small target like the window of a house in Iraq very quickly. The 20mm x 42 allows you to be able to shoot your rounds onto targets without lobbing them like mortars. You would aim it like a normal rifle . Have a look at India. There you had gunmen in a hotel. They used 30mm grenade launchers against them..these are far from accurate. The Neopup allows you to select anything from tearggas to HE,SAPHI etc. So you can use a specific payload The new IOR x1/x4 is being evaluated now. This gives the user a quick reference at x1 magnification(CQB) and x4 for longer targets. Watch the web for some very interesting new things surrounding the Neopup. This gun can break an ambush very quickly,think about it. A point man will find this gun usefull in an urban and bush invironment. What is the use of firing 5.56 ammo into a building trying to hit a sniper inside. Put a 20mmHE through the window and walla! He will be fragged or seriously injured and stop doing what he was doing. On a serious note, the gun allows one to stop a sniper without having to flatten a building. It is not a RPG, but you can have a similar effect with these 20mm HE. It compliments the AR. Use the AR when needed and the Neopup for the fragging. Why shoot at somebody behind a rock,200rds later..when you simply put a 20mmHE next to the rock..kaboom!! I'm simply a fan of the Neopup and the views and wording is from me. I just follow the project with great admiration. Here is a link of the NTW20x82 being fired by me. Recoil is very low,the gun pushes one back. The 20 x 110 works better since there is more gas,so the break works better.Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKPOzyj-gI Groot Mamba There is an AP round as well when Thanks for a great blog. I have been in the fortunate position to fire both weapons: Neopup and NTW20mm.
The NTW20mm comes in the 20 x 110 Hisspano as well. This is truly a beast. Sniping has become easy since your projectile must land/impact in close proximity to the target..Kaboom!!!

The Neopup is really nice! You can put HE etc into a house window 400m away with great accuracy and in record time( getting onto the target).
Yes the 40mm packs a punch but try to put it into a small target like the window of a house in Iraq very quickly. The 20mm x 42 allows you to be able to shoot your rounds onto targets without lobbing them like mortars.
You would aim it like a normal rifle .

Have a look at India. There you had gunmen in a hotel. They used 30mm grenade launchers against them..these are far from accurate. The Neopup allows you to select anything from tearggas to HE,SAPHI etc. So you can use a specific payload The new IOR x1/x4 is being evaluated now. This gives the user a quick reference at x1 magnification(CQB) and x4 for longer targets.

Watch the web for some very interesting new things surrounding the Neopup. This gun can break an ambush very quickly,think about it. A point man will find this gun usefull in an urban and bush invironment. What is the use of firing 5.56 ammo into a building trying to hit a sniper inside. Put a 20mmHE through the window and walla! He will be fragged or seriously injured and stop doing what he was doing.

On a serious note, the gun allows one to stop a sniper without having to flatten a building. It is not a RPG, but you can have a similar effect with these 20mm HE. It compliments the AR. Use the AR when needed and the Neopup for the fragging. Why shoot at somebody behind a rock,200rds later..when you simply put a 20mmHE next to the rock..kaboom!!

I’m simply a fan of the Neopup and the views and wording is from me. I just follow the project with great admiration.

Here is a link of the NTW20x82 being fired by me. Recoil is very low,the gun pushes one back. The 20 x 110 works better since there is more gas,so the break works better.Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKPOzyj-gI

Groot Mamba

There is an AP round as well when

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]]> By: N.U.G.U.N. Blog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11795 N.U.G.U.N. Blog Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:03:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-11795 Frankly, I gotta agree... But I'll ad a caveat. Realize that there were a LOT of little Decepticons too. And against those, an M16/M4 is fairly efficient. They were partnered with the Autobots for taking out the big Decepticons. So our soldiers were more of the scouting and point units, and small 'cepticons. And the Autobots and the aerial artillary the main big bot killers. Lastly, I loved the railgun. As for it not-so-secret. I thought about that too. But perhaps it was kept under a tent. Which was removed off camera before we saw it. *** Anyways, while I enjoyed Transformers 2. I must confess I was a bit disappointed. It could have been a LOT better. First off, the movie dealt mostly with humans. Only a few Transformers had any real roles. And sadly, half of the transformer roles were held by two idiotic annoying ghetto bots. A lot of times in the movie I sat there going WTF were they thinking. I'd give the movie a C, but with just a bit of work it could have been a great A-. *** One fun thing was seeing two aircraft carriers destroyed in the same hour. First the U.S.S. Kennedy in "2012" preview. Then the carrier in Transformers 2. Frankly, I gotta agree…

But I’ll ad a caveat. Realize that there were a LOT of little Decepticons too. And against those, an M16/M4 is fairly efficient.

They were partnered with the Autobots for taking out the big Decepticons. So our soldiers were more of the scouting and point units, and small ‘cepticons. And the Autobots and the aerial artillary the main big bot killers.

Lastly, I loved the railgun. As for it not-so-secret. I thought about that too. But perhaps it was kept under a tent. Which was removed off camera before we saw it.

***

Anyways, while I enjoyed Transformers 2. I must confess I was a bit disappointed. It could have been a LOT better. First off, the movie dealt mostly with humans. Only a few Transformers had any real roles.

And sadly, half of the transformer roles were held by two idiotic annoying ghetto bots.

A lot of times in the movie I sat there going WTF were they thinking. I’d give the movie a C, but with just a bit of work it could have been a great A-.

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One fun thing was seeing two aircraft carriers destroyed in the same hour. First the U.S.S. Kennedy in “2012″ preview. Then the carrier in Transformers 2.

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]]> By: Ted Allen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11719 Ted Allen Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:11:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-11719 I saw this great T-Shirt of Cafe Press the Drills home the point about the Neopup vs M-16 vs Transformer. It made me laugh a little http://www.cafepress.com/441.396883255 I saw this great T-Shirt of Cafe Press the Drills home the point about the Neopup vs M-16 vs Transformer. It made me laugh a little http://www.cafepress.com/441.396883255

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]]> By: Sven Ortmann http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-11701 Sven Ortmann Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:46:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6984#comment-11701 "Did we all forget the Javelin? If it can pop a T-72 like a magnified sun overheating an ant, I’m pretty sure it could at least scratch the paint off a D-con." OMG, that old staged Javelin video AGAIN. Short story: There were additional explosives in the tank (more than jsut the normal ammo load - unprotected explosives!). It has also been argued that the tank was command-detonated at the time of impact (it even begins to explode in a video while the missile was still intact!). REAL ATGM success and secondary effects look more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ARjuTKdiIk “Did we all forget the Javelin?
If it can pop a T-72 like a magnified sun overheating an ant, I’m pretty sure it could at least scratch the paint off a D-con.”

OMG, that old staged Javelin video AGAIN.

Short story:
There were additional explosives in the tank (more than jsut the normal ammo load – unprotected explosives!).
It has also been argued that the tank was command-detonated at the time of impact (it even begins to explode in a video while the missile was still intact!).

REAL ATGM success and secondary effects look more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ARjuTKdiIk

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