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	<title>Comments on: Primer availability,or lack thereof, explained</title>
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		<title>By: HK_USP_45</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/18/primer-availabilityor-lack-thereof-explained/comment-page-1/#comment-20694</link>
		<dc:creator>HK_USP_45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been getting CCI primers from Cabelas.com.  Decent price, just the Hazmat shipping charge sucks.  But you can order them, and if they don&#039;t have them you can still purchase and they will ship.

I ordered mine back in May, and they have been trickling in over the last 3 months.  They ship them to me as they get them, but I only had to pay the Hazmat fee once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting CCI primers from Cabelas.com.  Decent price, just the Hazmat shipping charge sucks.  But you can order them, and if they don&#8217;t have them you can still purchase and they will ship.</p>
<p>I ordered mine back in May, and they have been trickling in over the last 3 months.  They ship them to me as they get them, but I only had to pay the Hazmat fee once.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought some small rifle wolf primers over the internet for about $25.  I think I was luck to get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought some small rifle wolf primers over the internet for about $25.  I think I was luck to get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! That is a lot of primers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! That is a lot of primers!</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked primers on the Powder Valley Inc. website.  They say they have 50 million primers on back order!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked primers on the Powder Valley Inc. website.  They say they have 50 million primers on back order!!</p>
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		<title>By: HK_USP_45</title>
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		<dc:creator>HK_USP_45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been finding primers.  There&#039;s a local outdoor store by where I live and I stopped in a couple of weeks ago, and they had tons of all types and manufacture.  Also, on the Midway USA website, you can go into the page for the primer you want, and click on a link so that they notify you when that product comes in.  Just yesterday I got notification for 3 different types of CCI primers.  I&#039;ve also noticed it seems the ammo shelves are starting to get pretty full, too.  I stopped by Cabelas 3 days ago, and their ammo shelf was completely packed full, with no noticeable holes of missing product.  It&#039;s quite refreshing.

I was just thinking how it seems the shortage seems to be getting better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been finding primers.  There&#8217;s a local outdoor store by where I live and I stopped in a couple of weeks ago, and they had tons of all types and manufacture.  Also, on the Midway USA website, you can go into the page for the primer you want, and click on a link so that they notify you when that product comes in.  Just yesterday I got notification for 3 different types of CCI primers.  I&#8217;ve also noticed it seems the ammo shelves are starting to get pretty full, too.  I stopped by Cabelas 3 days ago, and their ammo shelf was completely packed full, with no noticeable holes of missing product.  It&#8217;s quite refreshing.</p>
<p>I was just thinking how it seems the shortage seems to be getting better.</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m STILL not seeing any primers out there.  Is anyone seeing any primers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m STILL not seeing any primers out there.  Is anyone seeing any primers?</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdun1911</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Primer will last longer then you.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primer will last longer then you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: James R. Rummel</title>
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		<dc:creator>James R. Rummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Since some people are buying 25,000 primers at a time, is there any info on how long primers will last in storage?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It really depends on how they are stored.

Primers generally fail if they are exposed to humidity, oil, or solvent.  If the primers are wrapped up in plastic with a desiccant pack, and so kept from all the bad stuff floating around in the air, then they should last a century or more.

How do I know?  I&#039;ve bought surplus ammo that was pretty old, and it worked.  Of course, using the primers to assemble whole rounds is one really good way to shield them from the environment.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Since some people are buying 25,000 primers at a time, is there any info on how long primers will last in storage?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It really depends on how they are stored.</p>
<p>Primers generally fail if they are exposed to humidity, oil, or solvent.  If the primers are wrapped up in plastic with a desiccant pack, and so kept from all the bad stuff floating around in the air, then they should last a century or more.</p>
<p>How do I know?  I&#8217;ve bought surplus ammo that was pretty old, and it worked.  Of course, using the primers to assemble whole rounds is one really good way to shield them from the environment.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: HK_USP_45</title>
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		<dc:creator>HK_USP_45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started handloading a month or so ago, and have been unable to actually load, since there are no primers.  It kind of has me torked a little bit, especially when I picture some jerk sitting on 25,000 primers, when I have 0.  I guess that&#039;s the way things go.  Hate to see one of those primers go off and set off 25,000, though.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started handloading a month or so ago, and have been unable to actually load, since there are no primers.  It kind of has me torked a little bit, especially when I picture some jerk sitting on 25,000 primers, when I have 0.  I guess that&#8217;s the way things go.  Hate to see one of those primers go off and set off 25,000, though.  <img src='http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Freiheit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freiheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Steve!

So it does sound like this is simple supply and demand. There aren&#039;t any sort of nefarious shenanigains going on. So if I really do need a mess of ammo it may be safe to wait a bit and save some money.

For those of you that remember the &#039;94 market:
After the peak, did the prices fall back to the levels they were before the peak?

Is this current spike exhibiting the same patterns as in &#039;94?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Steve!</p>
<p>So it does sound like this is simple supply and demand. There aren&#8217;t any sort of nefarious shenanigains going on. So if I really do need a mess of ammo it may be safe to wait a bit and save some money.</p>
<p>For those of you that remember the &#8217;94 market:<br />
After the peak, did the prices fall back to the levels they were before the peak?</p>
<p>Is this current spike exhibiting the same patterns as in &#8217;94?</p>
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		<title>By: Secesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Secesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since some people are buying 25,000 primers at a time, is there any info on how long primers will last in storage? Seems like they would have to be used in a timely fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since some people are buying 25,000 primers at a time, is there any info on how long primers will last in storage? Seems like they would have to be used in a timely fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mockum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mockum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m expecting ammo, guns, and reloading equipment to become readily available cheaply this fall when people that over bought face the reality of paying their credit cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m expecting ammo, guns, and reloading equipment to become readily available cheaply this fall when people that over bought face the reality of paying their credit cards.</p>
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