Comments on: ATI importing Turkish surplus ammunition http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:10:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-28536 Alan Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:19:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-28536 I bought two cases of the ATI distributed Turkish MKE 7.62 NATO (1980 rounds) and one case of the 5.56 NATO. The 5.56 functioned well. However, the 7.62 did not. Out of a 30 round sample... EVERY single round failed. All but two rounds would would feed and eject but not cycle the action sufficiently to chamber a new round. The case rim on each round was pulled partially through by the extractor. The two remaining rounds failed to extract and the case head rim on both was ripped off, taking the rifle out of action till a cleaning rod could be borrowed from the range house. The rounds were fired out of a stock Rock River LAR-08 which performed perfectly with an assortment of other brands of ammo. The consensus is that the brass is over annealed, consequently the cases are soft and over expand and stick in the chamber, the case heads are insufficiently work hardened and cannot take the stress of extraction. Lot No: 8-1/2008. This kind of general failure tends to imply that the published factory testing standards are hogwash! I bought two cases of the ATI distributed Turkish MKE 7.62 NATO (1980 rounds) and one case of the 5.56 NATO. The 5.56 functioned well. However, the 7.62 did not. Out of a 30 round sample… EVERY single round failed. All but two rounds would would feed and eject but not cycle the action sufficiently to chamber a new round. The case rim on each round was pulled partially through by the extractor. The two remaining rounds failed to extract and the case head rim on both was ripped off, taking the rifle out of action till a cleaning rod could be borrowed from the range house. The rounds were fired out of a stock Rock River LAR-08 which performed perfectly with an assortment of other brands of ammo. The consensus is that the brass is over annealed, consequently the cases are soft and over expand and stick in the chamber, the case heads are insufficiently work hardened and cannot take the stress of extraction. Lot No: 8-1/2008. This kind of general failure tends to imply that the published factory testing standards are hogwash!

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]]> By: Rob http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-14982 Rob Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:15:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-14982 I bought 500 rounds of this stuff in 7.62 for my DSA SA58. It's been awesome--the gun loves it, no misfeeds whatsoever, and every round has been completely consistent. The packaging looks just like the image above, except each box of mine came 4 rows of 5 instead of the pictured 2 rows of 10. The price was good and the ammo has been excellent. Two thumbs up to the Truks! I bought 500 rounds of this stuff in 7.62 for my DSA SA58. It’s been awesome–the gun loves it, no misfeeds whatsoever, and every round has been completely consistent. The packaging looks just like the image above, except each box of mine came 4 rows of 5 instead of the pictured 2 rows of 10.

The price was good and the ammo has been excellent. Two thumbs up to the Truks!

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]]> By: redmanlaw http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10754 redmanlaw Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:54:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10754 Re: .223. You guys know what I meant. Long day, big martini. Re: .223. You guys know what I meant. Long day, big martini.

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]]> By: redmanlaw http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10753 redmanlaw Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:50:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10753 No spellcheck in Turkiye, obv. I seen that stuff on the shelves here in Santa Fe. I just wish they had it in 9 mm. Lots of 7.62 and .223. No spellcheck in Turkiye, obv. I seen that stuff on the shelves here in Santa Fe. I just wish they had it in 9 mm. Lots of 7.62 and .223.

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10749 Matt Groom Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:40:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10749 Turkey is NATOs second-largest military force (guess who's first?). This stuff should be decent, and not too expensive, but I don't want to be the first to try it as long as I can get XM193. Turkey is NATOs second-largest military force (guess who’s first?). This stuff should be decent, and not too expensive, but I don’t want to be the first to try it as long as I can get XM193.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10734 Steve Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:36:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10734 Sol, I did not see a price either. They sell to dealers so they probably won't publish it. Sol, I did not see a price either. They sell to dealers so they probably won’t publish it.

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]]> By: j t bolt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10733 j t bolt Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:08:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10733 Yes, but what is the retail price and is the quality any good? Yes, but what is the retail price and is the quality any good?

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]]> By: Dom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10732 Dom Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:07:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10732 Imported ammo from state-owned factories? And here I thought the 7.62x39mm was a "commie round"... :P Imported ammo from state-owned factories? And here I thought the 7.62x39mm was a “commie round”… :P

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]]> By: Sol http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10731 Sol Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:05:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10731 I didn't notice a price on the ATI website. I didn’t notice a price on the ATI website.

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]]> By: Fred http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/ati-importing-turkish-surplus-ammunition/comment-page-1/#comment-10726 Fred Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:14:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6704#comment-10726 The 7.62 would be good if it's to NATO specs. The Cetme always needs more food. The 7.62 would be good if it’s to NATO specs. The Cetme always needs more food.

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