Comments on: Mosin Nagant rifle converted into a pistol http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: anyád.hu http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-77872 anyád.hu Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:16:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-77872 hülye gyerek, a lábadat daraboltad volna fel inkább, mint azt a pontosan lövő kiváló ex hadi-karabélyt! :-P hülye gyerek, a lábadat daraboltad volna fel inkább, mint azt a pontosan lövő kiváló ex hadi-karabélyt! :-P

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]]> By: i know this is old but http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-74548 i know this is old but Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:20:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-74548 there weren't any nazis in WW1 and the obrez pistol was mainly used by russians during the revolution against the tsar because it was easily concealable, much like the sawn off coachgun in america there weren’t any nazis in WW1 and the obrez pistol was mainly used by russians during the revolution against the tsar because it was easily concealable, much like the sawn off coachgun in america

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]]> By: moose http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-51842 moose Fri, 31 Dec 2010 06:23:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-51842 here your tacticool mosin at the range http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJZl2X3hmg&feature=related here your tacticool mosin at the range
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZJZl2X3hmg&feature=related

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]]> By: G-Man http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-39858 G-Man Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:52:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-39858 yo i believe that the russians sawed off their mosin nagants because thats all that they had in some of the conflicts! i mean come on why not? if u were in the trenches and all u had were mosins...wouldnt u saw a few of them off? and when u saw the nazis charging into your trench(im mostly refering to ww1) i think a sawed off mosin nagant would be just the thing to blow a good sized hole through one of them and betweem the shockwave and the muzzle blast u would probably blow their eardrums out! burn their eye brows off! start their clothes on fire! and probably knock them flat on their back! yo i believe that the russians sawed off their mosin nagants because thats all that they had in some of the conflicts! i mean come on why not? if u were in the trenches and all u had were mosins…wouldnt u saw a few of them off? and when u saw the nazis charging into your trench(im mostly refering to ww1) i think a sawed off mosin nagant would be just the thing to blow a good sized hole through one of them and betweem the shockwave and the muzzle blast u would probably blow their eardrums out! burn their eye brows off! start their clothes on fire! and probably knock them flat on their back!

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]]> By: redbaron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-30418 redbaron Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:43:43 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-30418 I googled "obrez" in cyrillic and came up with lots of pictures of sawed-off rifles that weren't Mosin Nagants, so "obrez" is (or NOW is) Russian slang for "sawed off rifle"... still possible that the first one was a Mosin Nagant... I googled “obrez” in cyrillic and came up with lots of pictures of sawed-off rifles that weren’t Mosin Nagants, so “obrez” is (or NOW is) Russian slang for “sawed off rifle”… still possible that the first one was a Mosin Nagant…

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]]> By: roman http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-30400 roman Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:16:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-30400 This idea is very old. In 1920 members of anti-soviet "kulak" movement used to cut the stock and barrel that would allow concealed carry of the rifle. It was called "obrez" meaning "cut-off". You can probably find original images of it on the web. Rugs on the wall were widely used in all Sovied republics, not only asian ones. This picture coul be made anywhere in waht used to be USSR, and it does not have to be photoshop. Wilson, thanks for the safety tip!!! This idea is very old. In 1920 members of anti-soviet “kulak” movement used to cut the stock and barrel that would allow concealed carry of the rifle. It was called “obrez” meaning “cut-off”. You can probably find original images of it on the web. Rugs on the wall were widely used in all Sovied republics, not only asian ones. This picture coul be made anywhere in waht used to be USSR, and it does not have to be photoshop.

Wilson, thanks for the safety tip!!!

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]]> By: Piedad http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-27776 Piedad Mon, 01 Mar 2010 03:00:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-27776 I saw something like this gun in a antique store many years ago. The original rifle was not a mosin Nagant though, it was a Mauser rifle i think. It looked like the photoshopped picture, but a lot more weathered. I was very curious about it and the shop owner told me he thought it was a north african piece, it was decorated with arab writings. He said it was frequent to buy these from nomadic people because they are easy to handle on horseback once the rider holds the reins with his teeth. I saw something like this gun in a antique store many years ago. The original rifle was not a mosin Nagant though, it was a Mauser rifle i think. It looked like the photoshopped picture, but a lot more weathered.
I was very curious about it and the shop owner told me he thought it was a north african piece, it was decorated with arab writings. He said it was frequent to buy these from nomadic people because they are easy to handle on horseback once the rider holds the reins with his teeth.

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]]> By: Wilson http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-24621 Wilson Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:02:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-24621 To those of you who have never actually seen a Mosin up close, this gun does have a safety. The wheel shaped thing on the back of the bolt (farthest back silver portion in both pics) IS the safety. You pull it back (it will fight you, it's a very tough spring that fires the gun) and rotate it to the left (to about the 10.30 or 10.45 positions with respect to the rest of the rifle), where it locks onto the frame of the rifle. It works by compressing and locking the spring which operates the firing pin, while also retracting the back of the bolt which is attached to the firing pin. When retracted, the spring is highly compressed and locked and the firing pin is drawn back into the bolt and locked to prevent it from flying forward and setting off the rifle in the event it is dropped. To un-safety the weapon, pull back on that metal circle and twist the right until the piece that grabs the weapons frame is at the 12 o'clock positions in respect to the rest of the weapon. Also, while the sites may be declinated out to 2000m, 7.62x54(mm)R is only accurate out to 700m max. The SVD sniper rifle was originally developed to "extend the range of a rifle squad to 600m", it runs on the same ammo as both the Mosin 1891 and the M44 (1944) short barreled version for urban combat. To those of you who have never actually seen a Mosin up close, this gun does have a safety. The wheel shaped thing on the back of the bolt (farthest back silver portion in both pics) IS the safety. You pull it back (it will fight you, it’s a very tough spring that fires the gun) and rotate it to the left (to about the 10.30 or 10.45 positions with respect to the rest of the rifle), where it locks onto the frame of the rifle.

It works by compressing and locking the spring which operates the firing pin, while also retracting the back of the bolt which is attached to the firing pin. When retracted, the spring is highly compressed and locked and the firing pin is drawn back into the bolt and locked to prevent it from flying forward and setting off the rifle in the event it is dropped.

To un-safety the weapon, pull back on that metal circle and twist the right until the piece that grabs the weapons frame is at the 12 o’clock positions in respect to the rest of the weapon.

Also, while the sites may be declinated out to 2000m, 7.62×54(mm)R is only accurate out to 700m max. The SVD sniper rifle was originally developed to “extend the range of a rifle squad to 600m”, it runs on the same ammo as both the Mosin 1891 and the M44 (1944) short barreled version for urban combat.

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]]> By: jackson http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-22949 jackson Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:56:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-22949 you are not familiar with the mosin nagat rifle??? do you not know where the safety is??? you pull back the rear of the bolt and turn left, it then rests on the reciever, thus rendering the firing pin locked back... it appears that only the stock and barrel were modified. you are not familiar with the mosin nagat rifle???

do you not know where the safety is???

you pull back the rear of the bolt and turn left, it then rests on the reciever, thus rendering the firing pin locked back…

it appears that only the stock and barrel were modified.

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]]> By: redbaron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-21838 redbaron Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:48:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-21838 the kid holding the pistol looks like a kid I used to work with, he was from Uzbekistan... but I have a feeling this photo is a lot older than that. the kid holding the pistol looks like a kid I used to work with, he was from Uzbekistan… but I have a feeling this photo is a lot older than that.

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]]> By: Akinci http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-17652 Akinci Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:08:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-17652 This is actually mentionend on a website called www.7.62x54r.net They were just cut down, not made that way. But I think you figured that one out This is actually mentionend on a website called http://www.7.62x54r.net
They were just cut down, not made that way. But I think you figured that one out

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-15933 Steve Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:24:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-15933 JM, thanks for the link! haha. JM, thanks for the link! haha.

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]]> By: JM http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-15932 JM Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:22:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-15932 While obrez pistols obviously do exist, I'm afraid your opening image is a photoshop job. Here's the original: http://imgur.com/WjgEn.jpg :) While obrez pistols obviously do exist, I’m afraid your opening image is a photoshop job. Here’s the original: http://imgur.com/WjgEn.jpg :)

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]]> By: Michigan_Mosin_Fan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-11425 Michigan_Mosin_Fan Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:06:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-11425 Ok, thats a good idea if you want stitches in your forehead. We're talking about a round that, at 1000 meters, retains as much velocity and energy as a .300 Winchester Magnum. The only succesful conversion of a rifle round into a pistol was and still is the .45-70 Gvt. And it takes being made of some really good stuff to be able to LIFT the revolver, let alone fire it. Whoever made this "pistol" should be pistol whipped with it for basically destroying a perfectly good piece of World War 2 history, not to mention violated a whole host of federal gun laws. Yes, I know that there have been over 180 million Mosin Nagant rifles produced since 1891 in all its various forms and incarnations, from the first M1891, to the Chinese T-53, but come on, dont destroy a mosin, destroy a Carcano, or an Enfield. Ok, thats a good idea if you want stitches in your forehead. We’re talking about a round that, at 1000 meters, retains as much velocity and energy as a .300 Winchester Magnum. The only succesful conversion of a rifle round into a pistol was and still is the .45-70 Gvt. And it takes being made of some really good stuff to be able to LIFT the revolver, let alone fire it. Whoever made this “pistol” should be pistol whipped with it for basically destroying a perfectly good piece of World War 2 history, not to mention violated a whole host of federal gun laws. Yes, I know that there have been over 180 million Mosin Nagant rifles produced since 1891 in all its various forms and incarnations, from the first M1891, to the Chinese T-53, but come on, dont destroy a mosin, destroy a Carcano, or an Enfield.

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]]> By: kerberos http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10868 kerberos Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:24:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10868 Here's is the SBR nagant being fired. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I Here’s is the SBR nagant being fired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I

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]]> By: HeadlandRam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10671 HeadlandRam Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:54:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10671 PTK from THR owns a "Obrez", His name is eliteharbor or whatever on youtube that has a vid on there PTK from THR owns a “Obrez”, His name is eliteharbor or whatever on youtube that has a vid on there

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]]> By: MasterBlaster http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10520 MasterBlaster Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:05:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10520 If you really believe that the above chopped Mosin Nagant is a photoshop, then it's one hell of a good job. What you cite about the image is alittle straw grasping IMHO If you really believe that the above chopped Mosin Nagant is a photoshop, then it’s one hell of a good job. What you cite about the image is alittle straw grasping IMHO

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]]> By: Dom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10498 Dom Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:23:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10498 I agree with Mang. Shadows all wrong, grip has different lighting/focus, etc. What's interesting is this could be art imitating life. The author may not have known about the Obrez. I agree with Mang. Shadows all wrong, grip has different lighting/focus, etc. What’s interesting is this could be art imitating life. The author may not have known about the Obrez.

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]]> By: Ron W http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10482 Ron W Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:44:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10482 The obretz version of a Mosin Nagant goes all the way back to the Russian Revolution. There is also record of them being used in WWII by partizans. I have a pic I took of one in the Artillery and Sappers Museum in St. Petersburg. The ammo used was supposed to be a reduced powder load using a bullet from Nagant revolver. The obretz version of a Mosin Nagant goes all the way back to the Russian Revolution. There is also record of them being used in WWII by partizans. I have a pic I took of one in the Artillery and Sappers Museum in St. Petersburg.

The ammo used was supposed to be a reduced powder load using a bullet from Nagant revolver.

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]]> By: michael http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/05/mosin-nagant-rifle-converted-into-a-pistol/comment-page-1/#comment-10473 michael Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:05:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6618#comment-10473 I agree the recoil would be a SOB when shooting this thing. I agree the recoil would be a SOB when shooting this thing.

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