Comments on: More Rangers with SCAR rifles http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:38:33 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Ben Bryant http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10625 Ben Bryant Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:58:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10625 The 1st Battalion is located at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, GA. The 75th Ranger Regimental HQ and the 3rd Ranger Battalion is located at Ft. Benning, GA near Columbus, GA and the 2nd Battalion is located at Ft. Lewis, WA. I can't really see what kind of weapons they have but I would bet that they are some kind of M-16 upgrade with a piston system to increase reliability. Also, why would the Rangers(whom I used to be with) be accepting honors for their service in North Carolina? Ft. Bragg is the SOCOM HQ and they have many homegrown special operations units there, specifically the 5th Special Forces group(if my memory serves correctly). Why would the Rangers be flown up to be presented an honor at a civilian racetrack? Military ceremony, yes but a NASCAR race?! I think somebody's got their signals crossed. The 1st Battalion is located at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, GA. The 75th Ranger Regimental HQ and the 3rd Ranger Battalion is located at Ft. Benning, GA near Columbus, GA and the 2nd Battalion is located at Ft. Lewis, WA.

I can’t really see what kind of weapons they have but I would bet that they are some kind of M-16 upgrade with a piston system to increase reliability.

Also, why would the Rangers(whom I used to be with) be accepting honors for their service in North Carolina? Ft. Bragg is the SOCOM HQ and they have many homegrown special operations units there, specifically the 5th Special Forces group(if my memory serves correctly). Why would the Rangers be flown up to be presented an honor at a civilian racetrack? Military ceremony, yes but a NASCAR race?!

I think somebody’s got their signals crossed.

]]> By: Martin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10148 Martin Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:39:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10148 Maybe it's so dem Army guys don't poke 'ems eyes out? Maybe it’s so dem Army guys don’t poke ‘ems eyes out?

]]> By: root man http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10051 root man Fri, 29 May 2009 00:10:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10051 @R.A.W. Bah! Operator Designed! Who cares who designed it? It is a great design. http://www.accucounter.com/Leading%20Edge%20SCAR%20article.pdf @R.A.W.
Bah!
Operator Designed!
Who cares who designed it?
It is a great design.
http://www.accucounter.com/Leading%20Edge%20SCAR%20article.pdf

]]> By: Pracman http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10025 Pracman Thu, 28 May 2009 13:38:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10025 To be honest I'm not sure that they are BFAs ? The construction doesn't appear strong enough (would like closer inspection !!!) The type I used with the UK service was larger and metal (and of course bright coloured). If anything, due to being in a civilian area in a no-comabt situation, could they be the no-live-round / dust covers indicators ? Could be completely wrong so please can you send me one so I can confirm - Ha Ha Ha ! To be honest I’m not sure that they are BFAs ? The construction doesn’t appear strong enough (would like closer inspection !!!) The type I used with the UK service was larger and metal (and of course bright coloured). If anything, due to being in a civilian area in a no-comabt situation, could they be the no-live-round / dust covers indicators ? Could be completely wrong so please can you send me one so I can confirm – Ha Ha Ha !

]]> By: R.A.W. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10015 R.A.W. Thu, 28 May 2009 05:54:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10015 <i>"Finally some US troops have a rifle worthy of the US."</i> Which, naturally, required that it be designed by Belgians. “Finally some US troops have a rifle worthy of the US.”

Which, naturally, required that it be designed by Belgians.

]]> By: root man http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10003 root man Wed, 27 May 2009 23:37:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10003 Bah! Muzzle cap, BFA, I care not! Here is to all the folks that said nobody will use the SCAR. Finally some US troops have a rifle worthy of the US. Bah! Muzzle cap, BFA, I care not!

Here is to all the folks that said nobody will use the SCAR.

Finally some US troops have a rifle worthy of the US.

]]> By: Fred http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10001 Fred Wed, 27 May 2009 22:14:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10001 I didn't think of a BFA... makes sense. I'm pretty sure they're being issued with AAC flash hiders, so it could be some sort of BFA that works along with the AAC thread system. I still think there's way too much stuff to simply be a shoot off muzzle cap, those are just thin plastic. I didn’t think of a BFA… makes sense. I’m pretty sure they’re being issued with AAC flash hiders, so it could be some sort of BFA that works along with the AAC thread system. I still think there’s way too much stuff to simply be a shoot off muzzle cap, those are just thin plastic.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-10000 Steve Wed, 27 May 2009 22:06:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-10000 higs, LOL higs, LOL

]]> By: higs http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9999 higs Wed, 27 May 2009 22:00:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9999 Na-SCAR ? coincidence? yeah probably Na-SCAR ? coincidence? yeah probably

]]> By: Puke http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9996 Puke Wed, 27 May 2009 21:46:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9996 Could just be a dust cover. Could just be a dust cover.

]]> By: Rob http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9995 Rob Wed, 27 May 2009 21:36:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9995 A Blank adaptor maybe? A Blank adaptor maybe?

]]> By: Pete http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9991 Pete Wed, 27 May 2009 18:53:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9991 They look like blank firing adaptors to me :shrug: They look like blank firing adaptors to me :shrug:

]]> By: Mang http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9990 Mang Wed, 27 May 2009 18:47:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9990 Here we go, muzzle caps. http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/131/ar15--m16-muzzle-cover-per-each---red.cfm Here we go, muzzle caps.
http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/131/ar15–m16-muzzle-cover-per-each—red.cfm

]]> By: Mang http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9989 Mang Wed, 27 May 2009 18:41:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9989 It's just a dust cover for the muzzle. Thin plastic, shoot-through if necessary. It doesn't prevent functioning of the weapon, but here it seems to be functioning as a visual indicator that the guns are not loaded. It’s just a dust cover for the muzzle. Thin plastic, shoot-through if necessary. It doesn’t prevent functioning of the weapon, but here it seems to be functioning as a visual indicator that the guns are not loaded.

]]> By: R.A.W. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9986 R.A.W. Wed, 27 May 2009 18:07:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9986 Possibly it's a blank firing adapter, which increases backpressure enough that the gun cycles when it's firing blanks. Possibly it’s a blank firing adapter, which increases backpressure enough that the gun cycles when it’s firing blanks.

]]> By: Slinky http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9984 Slinky Wed, 27 May 2009 17:39:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9984 It looks like the MILES blank firing adapter minus the transmiter. It looks like the MILES blank firing adapter minus the transmiter.

]]> By: Andy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9978 Andy Wed, 27 May 2009 16:44:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9978 Blank firing adapter, perhaps? Blank firing adapter, perhaps?

]]> By: Sean http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9975 Sean Wed, 27 May 2009 16:13:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9975 fancy-dancy FN blank firing adapter? that would explain the orange color. fancy-dancy FN blank firing adapter? that would explain the orange color.

]]> By: dogon1013 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9973 dogon1013 Wed, 27 May 2009 16:09:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9973 It does look like some sort of blank firing device. Looks like these are the Lite (5.56) versions by the shape of the one magazine that is in one of the rifles. It does look like some sort of blank firing device.

Looks like these are the Lite (5.56) versions by the shape of the one magazine that is in one of the rifles.

]]> By: Dave http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9972 Dave Wed, 27 May 2009 15:56:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9972 The "muzzle devices" could be something similar to these AR muzzle covers... http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR128-7.html The “muzzle devices” could be something similar to these AR muzzle covers…
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ARR128-7.html

]]> By: Huey148 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9971 Huey148 Wed, 27 May 2009 15:36:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9971 It appears to be a blank firing adapter (BFA) as if you look at the Ranger on the far left that has the SCAR over his right shoulder muzzle forward there does not appear to be a muzzle hole and it does look like it has a screw on the top for tightening. I am suspecting that dressed as they are the Army probably put on some show with them fast roping off a blackhawk and doing a little fire and maneuver show. It appears to be a blank firing adapter (BFA) as if you look at the Ranger on the far left that has the SCAR over his right shoulder muzzle forward there does not appear to be a muzzle hole and it does look like it has a screw on the top for tightening. I am suspecting that dressed as they are the Army probably put on some show with them fast roping off a blackhawk and doing a little fire and maneuver show.

]]> By: theotherryant http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9970 theotherryant Wed, 27 May 2009 15:33:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9970 This is great. The SOCOM guys get cool new weapons and eventually they filter through the rest of the service. I would love to get my hands on a SCAR. Also having one in the gun safe would be cool. This is great. The SOCOM guys get cool new weapons and eventually they filter through the rest of the service. I would love to get my hands on a SCAR. Also having one in the gun safe would be cool.

]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9969 Mike Wed, 27 May 2009 15:32:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9969 I'm not sure what those things are either, but they look similar to the attachment they use when firing blanks during training, but not sure why you would want blanks in the setting they are in. Look closely at the guy at the back left... it looks like the plugs totally encompass the end of the barrel. Do you think they are just a sort of dust covers? Oh well, hopefully someone knows! I’m not sure what those things are either, but they look similar to the attachment they use when firing blanks during training, but not sure why you would want blanks in the setting they are in.

Look closely at the guy at the back left… it looks like the plugs totally encompass the end of the barrel. Do you think they are just a sort of dust covers?

Oh well, hopefully someone knows!

]]> By: Dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9966 Dan Wed, 27 May 2009 15:07:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9966 Looks like the BFA the British use... - I thought the SCAR L could take the M4/M16 BFA... Looks like the BFA the British use… – I thought the SCAR L could take the M4/M16 BFA…

]]> By: clamp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9965 clamp Wed, 27 May 2009 14:31:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9965 Maybe it is just a shoot off muzzle cover to keep dirt out. Just a guess. Maybe it is just a shoot off muzzle cover to keep dirt out. Just a guess.

]]> By: Fred http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9964 Fred Wed, 27 May 2009 13:53:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9964 Looks like a bullet catcher to me, too much material to just be a dust cap. Looks like a bullet catcher to me, too much material to just be a dust cap.

]]> By: B Woodman http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9962 B Woodman Wed, 27 May 2009 13:32:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9962 From the small pic, it's hard to tell exactly, but it looks like a red dust cap, with tape around it to prevent it from being so non-camoflauge obvious. Like the old joke (all too true), about the Army's red tent stakes (so people will see them and not trip on them), having to be pounded all the way into the ground. From the small pic, it’s hard to tell exactly, but it looks like a red dust cap, with tape around it to prevent it from being so non-camoflauge obvious.
Like the old joke (all too true), about the Army’s red tent stakes (so people will see them and not trip on them), having to be pounded all the way into the ground.

]]> By: SwissFreek http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9961 SwissFreek Wed, 27 May 2009 13:20:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9961 Plus on some the screw is positioned at the top of the barrel, on others it's positioned on bottom. If it were some sort of manufactured connector I'd guess it would be in the same place on all the rifles. Plus on some the screw is positioned at the top of the barrel, on others it’s positioned on bottom. If it were some sort of manufactured connector I’d guess it would be in the same place on all the rifles.

]]> By: Tom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9960 Tom Wed, 27 May 2009 13:19:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9960 Could they be blank firing adapters? Could they be blank firing adapters?

]]> By: SwissFreek http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/27/more-rangers-with-scar-rifles/#comment-9959 SwissFreek Wed, 27 May 2009 13:19:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6499#comment-9959 At first blush I would have said it was a rubber cap to keep the barrel dry during water-borne ops. But on some of them you can see something that to me looks like a set-screw. Maybe it's just a pin that snaps into the muzzle to more securely attach the cap, like a twist-lock/QD or something? If it were tight enough to keep water out, you'd think friction would be enough to keep it in place. At first blush I would have said it was a rubber cap to keep the barrel dry during water-borne ops. But on some of them you can see something that to me looks like a set-screw. Maybe it’s just a pin that snaps into the muzzle to more securely attach the cap, like a twist-lock/QD or something? If it were tight enough to keep water out, you’d think friction would be enough to keep it in place.

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