Comments on: Stoeger Double Defense: 21st Century Tactical Coach Gun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anthony DiGiovanni http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-83003 Anthony DiGiovanni Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:39:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-83003 I have seen an over and under at gander mountian with20inch tubes ,,do not recall the brand. Does anyone know about this shotgun? I have seen an over and under at gander mountian with20inch tubes ,,do not recall the brand. Does anyone know about this shotgun?

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]]> By: Ken http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-70946 Ken Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:40:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-70946 The shotgun is the next step in defense plus in action shooting where they allow it. The fiber optic sight is it replacable with glow in the dark fiber sights that are availabe? The rail was a great idea to mount a laser and light combo that pistols have and are very strong these days some from 150 to 190 lumens and with the strobe feature to disoreantate the attacker. The people here that think a pistol is to complicated for home defense then buy a revolver its simply as white bread. Also the saying that handguns are no good for home defense, well its up to the user on how mucg training they get and the type of firearm they use plus the caliber and the ammunition that is used. Myself I have several and I promise no human will walk away from a newgeneration Winchester SXT Talon .45, 230 gr. +P or federal hydra-shok 2HST .45, 230 gr. +P round nor the .44 magnum 240 gr. rounds I have that are traveling at 1804 FPS out of the model 29 I have. Since I have shot competion in the military and as a civilian the beter part of my life I learned shot placement is everything. This shotgun brings Home Defense into the year 2011 and for people that may not know alot about guns or for the disabled who need a simple weapon that is not too small for clumsy hands. I would hope in the future a 410 or 28 guage model with shorter barrel to legal limit is available for petite women and handicapped these would take advantage of the ammunition already out and made for the judge revolver. The only down size with using a massive weapon like this is the clean up after the police let you go becuase a shotgun at close range leaves a massive hole in a person and the bleed out fast.....one big mess you have to do yourself. 5 stars for Stoeger! The shotgun is the next step in defense plus in action shooting where they allow it. The fiber optic sight is it replacable with glow in the dark fiber sights that are availabe? The rail was a great idea to mount a laser and light combo that pistols have and are very strong these days some from 150 to 190 lumens and with the strobe feature to disoreantate the attacker. The people here that think a pistol is to complicated for home defense then buy a revolver its simply as white bread. Also the saying that handguns are no good for home defense, well its up to the user on how mucg training they get and the type of firearm they use plus the caliber and the ammunition that is used. Myself I have several and I promise no human will walk away from a newgeneration Winchester SXT Talon .45, 230 gr. +P or federal hydra-shok 2HST .45, 230 gr. +P round nor the .44 magnum 240 gr. rounds I have that are traveling at 1804 FPS out of the model 29 I have. Since I have shot competion in the military and as a civilian the beter part of my life I learned shot placement is everything. This shotgun brings Home Defense into the year 2011 and for people that may not know alot about guns or for the disabled who need a simple weapon that is not too small for clumsy hands. I would hope in the future a 410 or 28 guage model with shorter barrel to legal limit is available for petite women and handicapped these would take advantage of the ammunition already out and made for the judge revolver. The only down size with using a massive weapon like this is the clean up after the police let you go becuase a shotgun at close range leaves a massive hole in a person and the bleed out fast…..one big mess you have to do yourself. 5 stars for Stoeger!

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]]> By: mike knowl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-69225 mike knowl Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:54:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-69225 I think the perfect home defence weapons system would be this shotgun,with, instead of a front grip, mount a laser sighted .40 s&w or .357 sig or simular semi auto pistol under where a front grip would go...............PERFECT!!! I think the perfect home defence weapons system would be this shotgun,with, instead of a front grip, mount a laser sighted .40 s&w or .357 sig or simular semi auto pistol under where a front grip would go……………PERFECT!!!

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]]> By: Al http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-65157 Al Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:12:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-65157 I hate it. Leave old school guns alone. I can just now see some douchbag doing tactical rolls back and forth behind his couch with this when his mailman shows up...... I hate it. Leave old school guns alone. I can just now see some douchbag doing tactical rolls back and forth behind his couch with this when his mailman shows up……

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]]> By: reed cundiff http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-37997 reed cundiff Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:51:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-37997 With regard to last comment. A friend of mine got butt-stroked by an SKS in his first fight (on his first of five tours) and said it was not fun. 1st Sgt Sobieski told him it was just a split lip and cracked tooth and no big deal. CQC doesn't get much more basic than this - unless you got bitten. With regard to last comment. A friend of mine got butt-stroked by an SKS in his first fight (on his first of five tours) and said it was not fun. 1st Sgt Sobieski told him it was just a split lip and cracked tooth and no big deal. CQC doesn’t get much more basic than this – unless you got bitten.

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]]> By: newbie http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-31488 newbie Sat, 24 Apr 2010 03:11:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-31488 After I fire 2 rounds I still have that most basic self defense weapon. A 20" steel club. Can I trade the flashligh for a bayonet? After I fire 2 rounds I still have that most basic self defense weapon. A 20″ steel club. Can I trade the flashligh for a bayonet?

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]]> By: jreid http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-24851 jreid Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:38:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-24851 When I took night fire training a long long time ago, the AF instructors stressed that we not fire our .38 pistols using the normal stance and sighting technique. They said the muzzle flash would ruin our night vision for several seconds. Of course I had to try it my way. Couldn't see anything for several long seconds. My coach gun has a cheap laser mounted on top of the barrels. This weapon will be fired from the hip or a little higher. Anybody that hasn't practiced with their home defense weapon at night should. It may change your thinking on choice of weapon, sights, lights and lasers. When I took night fire training a long long time ago, the AF instructors stressed that we not fire our .38 pistols using the normal stance and sighting technique. They said the muzzle flash would ruin our night vision for several seconds. Of course I had to try it my way. Couldn’t see anything for several long seconds.

My coach gun has a cheap laser mounted on top of the barrels. This weapon will be fired from the hip or a little higher.

Anybody that hasn’t practiced with their home defense weapon at night should. It may change your thinking on choice of weapon, sights, lights and lasers.

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]]> By: Sholms0311 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-24526 Sholms0311 Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:38:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-24526 Well I finally got my shotgun back from Stoeger.Slapped a red dot sight on it . Bought 100 shells and back to the range I went. I was very impressed.With the ported barrels there is not that much kick at all.I am very impressed with this Double defense 12 gauge. I would very much recommend this gun to anyone for a good home defense weapon.I keep 3" mag 000 buck in the barrels.You know just in case... Check one out.. Well I finally got my shotgun back from Stoeger.Slapped a red dot sight on it . Bought 100 shells and back to the range I went. I was very impressed.With the ported barrels there is not that much kick at all.I am very impressed with this Double defense 12 gauge. I would very much recommend this gun to anyone for a good home defense weapon.I keep 3″ mag 000 buck in the barrels.You know just in case… Check one out..

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]]> By: Thomas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-24411 Thomas Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:13:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-24411 wow lots of comments. at least i dont haft to duct tape a light to the gun. I think its a great gun but i would probly use an something along the lines aw a pump or mag fed shotgun. but i think its realy cool wow lots of comments. at least i dont haft to duct tape a light to the gun.

I think its a great gun but i would probly use an something along the lines aw a pump or mag fed shotgun. but i think its realy cool

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]]> By: Dennis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-24139 Dennis Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:00:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-24139 Double barrel 12 ga., aka the "Italian Trench Broom"! Oh yeah! Double barrel 12 ga., aka the “Italian Trench Broom”! Oh yeah!

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]]> By: Sholms0311 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23286 Sholms0311 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:13:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-23286 When I first saw this odd looking shotgun I was like ,Hmm that's different. Once in my hands ,out came the wallet and after the 10 day waiting period. I now had the coolest 12 gauge s/s ever. I picked it up ,bought 100 shells,and off to the range I went. well the first shot ended up being both barrels at the same time. So I tried again put in two more shells ,pulled the trigger once and bang,bang! Both barrels again. So back to the store I went .They sent it back to stoeger for a warranty repair .After almost two months I call stoeger and ask for the status.They told me a gunsmith will be looking at it in a week or so. Well wishing they would just send out a new one,I play the waiting game. It is a sweet shotgun though. I cant wait to get it back...Fixed When I first saw this odd looking shotgun I was like ,Hmm that’s different. Once in my hands ,out came the wallet and after the 10 day waiting period. I now had the coolest 12 gauge s/s ever.
I picked it up ,bought 100 shells,and off to the range I went. well the first shot ended up being both barrels at the same time. So I tried again
put in two more shells ,pulled the trigger once and bang,bang! Both barrels again. So back to the store I went .They sent it back to stoeger for a warranty repair .After almost two months I call stoeger and ask for the status.They told me a gunsmith will be looking at it in a week or so. Well wishing they would just send out a new one,I play the waiting game.
It is a sweet shotgun though. I cant wait to get it back…Fixed

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]]> By: Will http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-22956 Will Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:35:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-22956 I would not use a tazer for home defense a tazer. If you can hit someone with the tazer then it only gives you an opportunity to get away. I have been tazed four times now being in the Army. I have been tazed by powerful gun tazers and weaker hand helds. A person tazed for the first time might scare them but more than likely will just piss them off. I would be tazed every day versus being hit in the face with OC spray or worse yet shot by a firearm. I would not use a tazer for home defense a tazer. If you can hit someone with the tazer then it only gives you an opportunity to get away. I have been tazed four times now being in the Army. I have been tazed by powerful gun tazers and weaker hand helds. A person tazed for the first time might scare them but more than likely will just piss them off. I would be tazed every day versus being hit in the face with OC spray or worse yet shot by a firearm.

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]]> By: Josh Hughes http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-22604 Josh Hughes Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:47:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-22604 I've just placed an order for one of these, I think they're a nice bit of gear. The 20" barrel is an excellent choice for us, since it's the minimum barrel length on a long arm. On top of that there is the fact that Pump Actions/Semi Auto shotguns are basically illegal here, and pistol licences aren't worth the effort considering the restrictions applied to the types you can own and when/how you can use them. It's also pretty much illegal to defend yourself with a firearm in Aust, but tis better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, and I'll rexieve my Steoger in a few weeks. I’ve just placed an order for one of these, I think they’re a nice bit of gear. The 20″ barrel is an excellent choice for us, since it’s the minimum barrel length on a long arm. On top of that there is the fact that Pump Actions/Semi Auto shotguns are basically illegal here, and pistol licences aren’t worth the effort considering the restrictions applied to the types you can own and when/how you can use them. It’s also pretty much illegal to defend yourself with a firearm in Aust, but tis better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6, and I’ll rexieve my Steoger in a few weeks.

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]]> By: Pep http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-17601 Pep Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:42:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-17601 I saw this a couple of days ago on their website and thought that I had finally found that "one gun does it all" that I have been looking for. But.... It is missing one important thing. Choke tubes!! A folding stock? Sure, why not. Extra ammo at hand on the stock? Sure! But, if you add tubes, you've got what you need for ANYTHING!!! Okay, cylinder tubes and a 4 powered scope for deer season. Change those tubes to extra full, same scope, and you have turkey season. Change to modified and remove the scope and use the front sight, and your good for upland game. Stick a light, laser, red dot, what ever, and improved cylinder tubes, and you have a home defense system. It goes on and on. This could be the one:-) I saw this a couple of days ago on their website and thought that I had finally found that “one gun does it all” that I have been looking for. But…. It is missing one important thing. Choke tubes!! A folding stock? Sure, why not. Extra ammo at hand on the stock? Sure! But, if you add tubes, you’ve got what you need for ANYTHING!!! Okay, cylinder tubes and a 4 powered scope for deer season. Change those tubes to extra full, same scope, and you have turkey season. Change to modified and remove the scope and use the front sight, and your good for upland game. Stick a light, laser, red dot, what ever, and improved cylinder tubes, and you have a home defense system. It goes on and on. This could be the one:-)

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]]> By: 240bravo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-17210 240bravo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:20:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-17210 As for buying a Stoeger Double Defense, I will buy one this weekend to employ in the defense of my fathers home. He is old school and likes the double barrel. I like the idea of a momentary light being mounted to such a reliable weapon for him....hee hee....blast em with light then lead. As for buying a Stoeger Double Defense, I will buy one this weekend to employ in the defense of my fathers home. He is old school and likes the double barrel. I like the idea of a momentary light being mounted to such a reliable weapon for him….hee hee….blast em with light then lead.

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]]> By: 240bravo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-17209 240bravo Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:14:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-17209 All this talk of less than lethal ammo used in your home defense. This is coming from the French who consider surrender a win. Of course I live in SC and in our state not only do you have to right to defend yourself with deadly force you have the right to defend your property with deadly force. Geeeez folks, do you really want to determine if an intruder has a weapon before killing him? Think about it, if he is standing over your 15 year old daughter and you can't see his hands are you going to shoot him with Rock Salt, Rubber Bullets, or are you just going to kill the bastard. HOLY CRAP WAKE UP. As for the french, who cares what you do. Im sure when the next Hitler runs over your rubber bullets I'll bale your ass out the same way my grandfather did. Oh yeah thanks for nothing in regards to Operation Iraqi Freedom. All this talk of less than lethal ammo used in your home defense. This is coming from the French who consider surrender a win. Of course I live in SC and in our state not only do you have to right to defend yourself with deadly force you have the right to defend your property with deadly force. Geeeez folks, do you really want to determine if an intruder has a weapon before killing him? Think about it, if he is standing over your 15 year old daughter and you can’t see his hands are you going to shoot him with Rock Salt, Rubber Bullets, or are you just going to kill the bastard. HOLY CRAP WAKE UP. As for the french, who cares what you do. Im sure when the next Hitler runs over your rubber bullets I’ll bale your ass out the same way my grandfather did. Oh yeah thanks for nothing in regards to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

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]]> By: jbright http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-17181 jbright Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:31:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-17181 I've got the Stroeger Uplander 12 gauge Coach Gun in my bedroom (no kids or guests) behind the bedroom door. Still has the sticker underneath the barrel. It's definitely not ugly. Reassuring, I'd say. I’ve got the Stroeger Uplander 12 gauge Coach Gun in my bedroom (no kids or guests) behind the bedroom door. Still has the sticker underneath the barrel. It’s definitely not ugly. Reassuring, I’d say.

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]]> By: DT http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-17176 DT Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:49:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-17176 I've been a fan of double guns for hunting over 25 years. Killed many rabbits with my .410, many phesants and pats with my 20 gauge, even deer with my 12 gauge s/s. My home s/d guns are a 38 revolver and the taurus Judge with 00 buck and 45 colt. This DD is ugly, not practical for SD with only 2 shots, and not a hunting gun. Tommorow I will be at the gun store to buy this bad mother *#*#*# as I have to have one. Something scary about it! I’ve been a fan of double guns for hunting over 25 years. Killed many rabbits with my .410, many phesants and pats with my 20 gauge, even deer with my 12 gauge s/s. My home s/d guns are a 38 revolver and the taurus Judge with 00 buck and 45 colt. This DD is ugly, not practical for SD with only 2 shots, and not a hunting gun. Tommorow I will be at the gun store to buy this bad mother *#*#*# as I have to have one. Something scary about it!

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]]> By: Tobe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-16949 Tobe Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:37:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-16949 So all I've really read on here is home defense this and home defense that...has anyone even considered the possibility of double aught buck shot and a group of pigs? I mean come on. We are talking the most exciting advances in pig control. Spotlight, Mule, Couple boxes of shells, and a coach gun. So all I’ve really read on here is home defense this and home defense that…has anyone even considered the possibility of double aught buck shot and a group of pigs? I mean come on. We are talking the most exciting advances in pig control. Spotlight, Mule, Couple boxes of shells, and a coach gun.

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]]> By: Dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/16/stoeger-double-defense-21st-centeruty-tactical-coach-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-16382 Dan Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:37:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6409#comment-16382 In my own case, I already own a Remington/Spartan 220. I put on an XS tritium bead sight and zip tied a flash light under the barrels. The Remington also allows for the changing of choke tubes. Two Carlson full choke tubes pattern #4 buck quite nicely. In my own case, I already own a Remington/Spartan 220. I put on an XS tritium bead sight and zip tied a flash light under the barrels. The Remington also allows for the changing of choke tubes. Two Carlson full choke tubes pattern #4 buck quite nicely.

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