Comments on: Homemade .303 pistols http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/ Firearms not Politics Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:18:29 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9571 Matt Groom Thu, 14 May 2009 00:33:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9571 I hadn't thought of that either, Steve. Now that I've gotten into bullet casting, I wonder how wrinkled the bullets would look, since you can pre-heat clay like you do metal molds, but I assume that they weren't going for accuracy. After Tzaklowski told me about how they made primers, I decided to figure out how it was done, and it is painstakingly difficult to do correctly, but not impossible. I'd make my own Lead Styphnate if I wanted to make primers, scraping match heads is for the birds. I hadn’t thought of that either, Steve. Now that I’ve gotten into bullet casting, I wonder how wrinkled the bullets would look, since you can pre-heat clay like you do metal molds, but I assume that they weren’t going for accuracy.
After Tzaklowski told me about how they made primers, I decided to figure out how it was done, and it is painstakingly difficult to do correctly, but not impossible. I’d make my own Lead Styphnate if I wanted to make primers, scraping match heads is for the birds.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9534 Steve Wed, 13 May 2009 00:05:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9534 Matt, very clever. I had not thought of using clay moulds to make bullets. Did you see the recent post on resuing primers? Not hard to do. Matt, very clever. I had not thought of using clay moulds to make bullets. Did you see the recent post on resuing primers? Not hard to do.

]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9532 Matt Groom Tue, 12 May 2009 23:59:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9532 I met a US Marine who was originally from Moldova, which was in the Soviet Union. He and I got to talking about guns and the futility of gun laws one day. He said in Moldova, it was easy to get rifles and shotguns, but hard to get handguns. He said they would convert rifles to pistols. I said "I bet that kills on both ends!" and he said "Don't be stupid, we don't use all powder. You take out bullet and dump out powder. Then you make four piles. Then you used powder four times." I thought that was very cleaver, and it occurred to me that that would mean he'd need three more primers, and three more bullets. "Yes. Primer is metal, like rust and acid. Easy to make. Bullet is copy. You take bullet, mold in clay. Cook mold. Pour in Lead, you have bullet." He was an interesting guy. Necessity is the mother of invention. I met a US Marine who was originally from Moldova, which was in the Soviet Union. He and I got to talking about guns and the futility of gun laws one day. He said in Moldova, it was easy to get rifles and shotguns, but hard to get handguns. He said they would convert rifles to pistols. I said “I bet that kills on both ends!” and he said “Don’t be stupid, we don’t use all powder. You take out bullet and dump out powder. Then you make four piles. Then you used powder four times.” I thought that was very cleaver, and it occurred to me that that would mean he’d need three more primers, and three more bullets. “Yes. Primer is metal, like rust and acid. Easy to make. Bullet is copy. You take bullet, mold in clay. Cook mold. Pour in Lead, you have bullet.” He was an interesting guy. Necessity is the mother of invention.

]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9520 Steve Tue, 12 May 2009 21:30:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9520 Woodman, same with the CIA 9mm pistol ("deer gun") during Vietnam. Though I suspect they had less chance of killing the operator ;) Woodman, same with the CIA 9mm pistol (”deer gun”) during Vietnam. Though I suspect they had less chance of killing the operator ;)

]]> By: James R. Rummel http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9509 James R. Rummel Tue, 12 May 2009 17:26:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9509 Thank you kindly for the link! James Thank you kindly for the link!

James

]]> By: B Woodman http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9502 B Woodman Tue, 12 May 2009 14:12:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9502 Wasn't that the idea of the WW II stamped-metal Victory pistol? A cheap one-shot that allows one to kill the enemy & take HIS weapon & ammo. Wasn’t that the idea of the WW II stamped-metal Victory pistol? A cheap one-shot that allows one to kill the enemy & take HIS weapon & ammo.

]]> By: Albert A Rasch http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9498 Albert A Rasch Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9498 Mortimer, That's correct. Those fellows make passable copies of all sorts of firearms, and as you said, that is a copy of a Martini. The embellishments give it away as does the fit and finish. Regards, Albert <a href="http://trochronicles.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles</a>. <a href="http://trrtactical.blogspot.com /" rel="nofollow">The Range Reviews: Tactical</a>. Mortimer,

That’s correct. Those fellows make passable copies of all sorts of firearms, and as you said, that is a copy of a Martini. The embellishments give it away as does the fit and finish.

Regards,
Albert
The Rasch Outdoor Chronicles.
The Range Reviews: Tactical.

]]> By: cornelius http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9496 cornelius Tue, 12 May 2009 12:12:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9496 Where there's a will there's a way! It reminds me of a mother and her five year-old boy. She didn't want her son to be "exposed" to guns; so no gun toys for him. One morning over breakfast she finds that he has eaten his toast into the shape of a gun - and he's shooting it! Boys will be boys. Where there’s a will there’s a way!

It reminds me of a mother and her five year-old boy. She didn’t want her son to be “exposed” to guns; so no gun toys for him. One morning over breakfast she finds that he has eaten his toast into the shape of a gun – and he’s shooting it! Boys will be boys.

]]> By: Sanjay Mortimer http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/12/homemade-303-pistols/#comment-9494 Sanjay Mortimer Tue, 12 May 2009 11:21:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6323#comment-9494 I'd posit that pistol was converted from a copy of a 'tini-henry not a real British made one. I was at the national shooting centre in Bisley, Surrey, England yesterday and have some photo's from their museum. The bit that makes me really suspicious is the engraving, it just looks all wrong, uneven, and not at all like that on those I saw yesterday. I’d posit that pistol was converted from a copy of a ‘tini-henry not a real British made one. I was at the national shooting centre in Bisley, Surrey, England yesterday and have some photo’s from their museum. The bit that makes me really suspicious is the engraving, it just looks all wrong, uneven, and not at all like that on those I saw yesterday.

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