Comments on: Side mounted sights on AR-15 ??? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Grave http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-71238 Grave Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:55:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-71238 a lil late to this post but like in mgs4 you hold the rifle like that to have full view of surroundings with just an instant transition to iron sights. a lil late to this post but like in mgs4 you hold the rifle like that to have full view of surroundings with just an instant transition to iron sights.

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]]> By: Nicholas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-33933 Nicholas Mon, 17 May 2010 06:31:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-33933 Thank you all for clearing up something I wanted know. A while back a game came out called Metal Gear Solid 4 which had the main character using this technique with an M4. The game had surprisingly realistic weapon techniques and accurate models. (more so then Battlefield Bad Company 2 or Call of duty: Modern Warfare 2) I always wondered if it was real or not though, ironically I don't think they ever modeled any sights to be used with it. Thank you all for clearing up something I wanted know. A while back a game came out called Metal Gear Solid 4 which had the main character using this technique with an M4. The game had surprisingly realistic weapon techniques and accurate models. (more so then Battlefield Bad Company 2 or Call of duty: Modern Warfare 2) I always wondered if it was real or not though, ironically I don’t think they ever modeled any sights to be used with it.

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]]> By: cactus jack poltroon http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9478 cactus jack poltroon Mon, 11 May 2009 23:20:36 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9478 Not even new! http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/05/25/birdman-weapons-systems-homeboy-nyte-sytes/ Cheers, CJ Poltroon Not even new!

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/05/25/birdman-weapons-systems-homeboy-nyte-sytes/

Cheers, CJ Poltroon

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]]> By: Some Gangsta http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9467 Some Gangsta Mon, 11 May 2009 16:59:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9467 Yo, Homey! That's gangsta! Yo, Homey! That’s gangsta!

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]]> By: Supernaut http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9459 Supernaut Mon, 11 May 2009 12:04:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9459 http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x95/instructor86/aag.jpg Side mounted EOTech in Afghanistan, complementing a top mounted ACOG. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x95/instructor86/aag.jpg

Side mounted EOTech in Afghanistan, complementing a top mounted ACOG.

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]]> By: Greg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9454 Greg Mon, 11 May 2009 05:40:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9454 Jerry Jerry Miculek has his rifle like this for 3 gun On Guntalk.tv the website Champion shot Jerry Miculek discusses how he sets up his AR-15 for competition. To watch the video go to: http://guntalk.tv/gtv/library.php?category=2&video_id=undefined&cache=Mon%20Jan%205%2009%3A14%3A33%20MST%202009 then click on "Rifle" on the lefthand column then click on "AR-15" on the left hand column then look for the video on the top right hand column. It is free. It is entitled, "How a Champion Sets up His AR-15" featuring Jerry Miculek Jerry Jerry Miculek has his rifle like this for 3 gun

On Guntalk.tv the website Champion shot Jerry Miculek discusses how he sets up his AR-15 for competition.

To watch the video go to: http://guntalk.tv/gtv/library.php?category=2&video_id=undefined&cache=Mon%20Jan%205%2009%3A14%3A33%20MST%202009

then click on “Rifle” on the lefthand column

then click on “AR-15″ on the left hand column

then look for the video on the top right hand column.
It is free. It is entitled,
“How a Champion Sets up His AR-15″ featuring Jerry Miculek

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9442 Steve Sun, 10 May 2009 20:33:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9442 jdun1911, thanks for the link, that makes sense. Yes, I have seen many with the dr optic mounted. jdun1911, thanks for the link, that makes sense. Yes, I have seen many with the dr optic mounted.

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]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9441 jdun1911 Sun, 10 May 2009 20:19:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9441 What confused you Steve was the EOtech. Most set up have a magnifying optic and compact red dot (dr optic) or iron sight. For those people that want this kind of system but has a standard 1913 rail instead of the tube handguard. You can buy an angle mount. YHM and other manufactures offer them. http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/rails.html What confused you Steve was the EOtech. Most set up have a magnifying optic and compact red dot (dr optic) or iron sight.

For those people that want this kind of system but has a standard 1913 rail instead of the tube handguard. You can buy an angle mount. YHM and other manufactures offer them.

http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/rails.html

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]]> By: Tom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9428 Tom Sun, 10 May 2009 12:09:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9428 This video link shows a better set-up.. Scope on top for long range.. Compact Dot Sight at 45 degrees for close range.. http://www.jprifles.com/v/v_d.php?v=ctr-02 This video link shows a better set-up.. Scope on top for long range.. Compact Dot Sight at 45 degrees for close range.. http://www.jprifles.com/v/v_d.php?v=ctr-02

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9418 Steve Sun, 10 May 2009 04:38:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9418 Michael, thanks for the comment. Michael, thanks for the comment.

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]]> By: Valhalla http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9417 Valhalla Sun, 10 May 2009 04:30:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9417 Also for shooting over a wall in Fallujah or something you don't have to be as high up to still get a bead on the target. Also for shooting over a wall in Fallujah or something you don’t have to be as high up to still get a bead on the target.

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]]> By: Michael Bane http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9411 Michael Bane Sun, 10 May 2009 01:26:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9411 Faster to deal with targets inside 25 yards with the aux iron sight set-up than a magnifying optic. Also addresses the issue of offset distance on an AR between the optic height and the bore line. First pioneered by JP Rifles for with their Short-Range Tactical Sight (http://www.jprifles.com/1.6.4.php) for 3-gun competition and now widely used with police and even military...I've seen some operators' rifles set up with the JP rig and they swear by it for urban CQB, where distances can run from contact to 250 yards. It's surprisingly easy to get used to. I have a set-up with Leupold optics and the JP sight... Michael B Faster to deal with targets inside 25 yards with the aux iron sight set-up than a magnifying optic. Also addresses the issue of offset distance on an AR between the optic height and the bore line.

First pioneered by JP Rifles for with their Short-Range Tactical Sight (http://www.jprifles.com/1.6.4.php) for 3-gun competition and now widely used with police and even military…I’ve seen some operators’ rifles set up with the JP rig and they swear by it for urban CQB, where distances can run from contact to 250 yards.

It’s surprisingly easy to get used to. I have a set-up with Leupold optics and the JP sight…

Michael B

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]]> By: ExurbanKevin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9395 ExurbanKevin Sat, 09 May 2009 15:28:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9395 If you're running in Open or Tactical, you can have one or more (if Open) optics on your rifle. (http://www.3gunrules.com/documents/multi-gun-rules/uspsa-rules/2008_USPSA_Rifle.pdf). Competitors in those divisions either go with a low-power variable scope (something in the 1x-4x range) and switch powers back and forth depending on the range or they go with a rig similar to that setup. It's surprisingly fast to transition from iron sights to the EoTech and back with that rig: all it takes is a slight tilt of the gun versus having to reach up and sling your scope over from one power to the next. If you’re running in Open or Tactical, you can have one or more (if Open) optics on your rifle. (http://www.3gunrules.com/documents/multi-gun-rules/uspsa-rules/2008_USPSA_Rifle.pdf). Competitors in those divisions either go with a low-power variable scope (something in the 1x-4x range) and switch powers back and forth depending on the range or they go with a rig similar to that setup. It’s surprisingly fast to transition from iron sights to the EoTech and back with that rig: all it takes is a slight tilt of the gun versus having to reach up and sling your scope over from one power to the next.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9393 Steve Sat, 09 May 2009 14:57:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9393 Tony, actually looking at the photo again I think it may be less than a 75 degree angle. Thanks for explaining it to me guys, that makes sense. Tony, actually looking at the photo again I think it may be less than a 75 degree angle.

Thanks for explaining it to me guys, that makes sense.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9392 Steve Sat, 09 May 2009 14:53:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9392 ExurbanKevin, how does that benefit the shooter in 3-gun? ExurbanKevin, how does that benefit the shooter in 3-gun?

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]]> By: Tony http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9391 Tony Sat, 09 May 2009 14:53:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9391 I know some people run their IPSC etc. competition rifles with a magnifying optic on top and a non-magnifying optic for close range targets at an angle (usually more like 45 degrees than 75, though). As far as I've heard, the same technique has been also applied in "the real world", too. The idea is that rather than suffer the reduction in speed from the magnifying optic, simply tilt the gun a bit and press on. Works pretty well if you've trained enough to use the system, too. First time I've ever seen iron sights used in that manner though. Wouldn't it be more sensible to set up a (semi-) co-witnessing setup if the only optic on the rifle is a non-magnifying one? I know some people run their IPSC etc. competition rifles with a magnifying optic on top and a non-magnifying optic for close range targets at an angle (usually more like 45 degrees than 75, though). As far as I’ve heard, the same technique has been also applied in “the real world”, too. The idea is that rather than suffer the reduction in speed from the magnifying optic, simply tilt the gun a bit and press on. Works pretty well if you’ve trained enough to use the system, too.

First time I’ve ever seen iron sights used in that manner though. Wouldn’t it be more sensible to set up a (semi-) co-witnessing setup if the only optic on the rifle is a non-magnifying one?

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]]> By: ExurbanKevin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/10/side-mounted-sights-on-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-9390 ExurbanKevin Sat, 09 May 2009 14:52:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6260#comment-9390 3-Gun competition. Look at the handguard: That's a 3-gunner rig for certain 3-Gun competition. Look at the handguard: That’s a 3-gunner rig for certain

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