Comments on: Beretta ARX / GLX 160 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:05:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pneuma http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-67786 Pneuma Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:20:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-67786 One amazing gun! Disappointing it's so fugly. :( One amazing gun! Disappointing it’s so fugly. :(

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]]> By: JP http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-55656 JP Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:33:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-55656 Wow...there really is so much hatred out there for the ACR. Besides the fact that is grossly overpriced (even though MSRP doesn't reflect what they are actually selling for, they are still very expensive), it really didnt have that many flaws. I have owned one for over a year, both pre-and post recall. I never hand any problems with mine double firing, but I use only NATO loads. From what I have been able to find out the cause for the double firings was more inconsistent primer thicknesses on different ammo brands and self loads that was causing the problem more than an actual mechanical malfunction. I personally have fired over 2000 rounds through mine without any malfunctions. As far as the engineering goes, they did take the things that they liked from different platforms and combined them, getting rid of the things they didn't like. If there was any patent infringement then lawsuits would be filed. I'm not saying I don't like the ARX. I am a huge fan of Beretta and they make great weapons. But to claim that this blows the ACR out of the water is ridiculous in my opinion. It does have some features that the ACR doesn't have but the same can be said in reverse. I like the multiple magazine releases, the reversible ejection ports and the lighter weight of it. I'm not sure how I feel about the stock, not having an adjustable cheek pad. The other thing that I think would be an issue for me is that in order to change the caliber, you have to swap the entire lower receiver. If I am going to spend a huge chunk of money on a carbine that is supposed to be capable of multiple calibers, I want to have to change as few parts as possible. Caliber change on the ACR is much simpler, and while I am still waiting for my 6.8mm barrel, its the only additional part I will need to purchase in order to make use of that feature. Then of course, there is the fact they don't even have a civilian version of it yet, or even a rough idea of when to expect one. In my honest opinion, if you like them and can get a good deal on a ACR Enhanced, don't hold your breath for this one to become available. You more than likely have enough time to save to pay whatever the price tag may be when this thing hits the civilian market. Wow…there really is so much hatred out there for the ACR. Besides the fact that is grossly overpriced (even though MSRP doesn’t reflect what they are actually selling for, they are still very expensive), it really didnt have that many flaws. I have owned one for over a year, both pre-and post recall. I never hand any problems with mine double firing, but I use only NATO loads. From what I have been able to find out the cause for the double firings was more inconsistent primer thicknesses on different ammo brands and self loads that was causing the problem more than an actual mechanical malfunction. I personally have fired over 2000 rounds through mine without any malfunctions. As far as the engineering goes, they did take the things that they liked from different platforms and combined them, getting rid of the things they didn’t like. If there was any patent infringement then lawsuits would be filed.

I’m not saying I don’t like the ARX. I am a huge fan of Beretta and they make great weapons. But to claim that this blows the ACR out of the water is ridiculous in my opinion. It does have some features that the ACR doesn’t have but the same can be said in reverse. I like the multiple magazine releases, the reversible ejection ports and the lighter weight of it. I’m not sure how I feel about the stock, not having an adjustable cheek pad. The other thing that I think would be an issue for me is that in order to change the caliber, you have to swap the entire lower receiver. If I am going to spend a huge chunk of money on a carbine that is supposed to be capable of multiple calibers, I want to have to change as few parts as possible. Caliber change on the ACR is much simpler, and while I am still waiting for my 6.8mm barrel, its the only additional part I will need to purchase in order to make use of that feature.

Then of course, there is the fact they don’t even have a civilian version of it yet, or even a rough idea of when to expect one. In my honest opinion, if you like them and can get a good deal on a ACR Enhanced, don’t hold your breath for this one to become available. You more than likely have enough time to save to pay whatever the price tag may be when this thing hits the civilian market.

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]]> By: SF_albania http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-54658 SF_albania Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:37:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-54658 Am an Albanian soldier, currently in Special Forces training, and have been issued the ARX 160 about one week ago. Of corse it's batter than the Type 56 (chinese AK 47)i have been using till now. I cannot compare it to the ACR or SCAR, as i have never testeg those weapons, but i can say that it is superiour compared to the G36 and Hk416, which i have tested for about a month. The part i liked the most is how easy it is dissasembled, a lot easier than the AK. as for reliability, i haven't had the opotrunity to torture it by now, so i can's be sure, but it seems pretty reliable. I have never had stoppages till now. The weight is great too. i used to match with the AK, and my armf fell off, but the ARX is more than 1KG lighter. the accuracy is the same as the Hk416. The only thing i don't like at the ARX is the buttpad, just because i'm not used to it. Am an Albanian soldier, currently in Special Forces training, and have been issued the ARX 160 about one week ago. Of corse it’s batter than the Type 56 (chinese AK 47)i have been using till now. I cannot compare it to the ACR or SCAR, as i have never testeg those weapons, but i can say that it is superiour compared to the G36 and Hk416, which i have tested for about a month. The part i liked the most is how easy it is dissasembled, a lot easier than the AK. as for reliability, i haven’t had the opotrunity to torture it by now, so i can’s be sure, but it seems pretty reliable. I have never had stoppages till now. The weight is great too. i used to match with the AK, and my armf fell off, but the ARX is more than 1KG lighter. the accuracy is the same as the Hk416.
The only thing i don’t like at the ARX is the buttpad, just because i’m not used to it.

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]]> By: JoeB http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-54516 JoeB Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:03:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-54516 I just saw a review of this gun at shot show and it is abosolutly incredable. Blows the ACR out of the water in terms of weight and innovation in my mind I just saw a review of this gun at shot show and it is abosolutly incredable. Blows the ACR out of the water in terms of weight and innovation in my mind

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]]> By: Meltron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-34716 Meltron Tue, 25 May 2010 21:19:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-34716 whats the sight in the first picture? whats the sight in the first picture?

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]]> By: Reabo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-32916 Reabo Fri, 07 May 2010 15:23:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-32916 I just finished reading the write up in Small Arms Review and, I am truly salivating over the semi-auto version that I hope to be able to sell in my Gun Shop. Belissimo Beretta, what a fantastic weapon............ I just finished reading the write up in Small Arms Review and, I am truly salivating over the semi-auto version that I hope to be able to sell in my Gun Shop. Belissimo Beretta, what a fantastic weapon…………

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]]> By: Rijoenpial http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-32430 Rijoenpial Mon, 03 May 2010 21:17:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-32430 Guys, I think this gun puts the ACR to shame: it is ambi in EVERY SINGLE WAY: bolt catch, bolt release, ejection ports, cocking, barrel removal, etc... There are two videos, two italian, and one from SHOT SHOW 2010 where this beauty of engineering is being demonstrated: please, time out the time the guy takes to remove the barrel! It puts ACR to shame, not to mention the real show-stopper: the dual ejection ports!! The Italian links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4CcvW3I3M&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ptYAwft0dU The SHOT SHOW 2010 one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejzPiUYYzg&feature=fvsr Great rifle and the design is futuristic, not to mention very functional... By the way, the ACR is almost all polymer, and I trust Beretta more to make a good rifle than the beginner Magpul! At least. the ARX is already serving one Army! What about the ACR?! Overpricy, overhyped and over-stealing from other companies' patented designs, it seems! This ARX is the real deal and a couple of design changes would make it the BEST around! Remember, three points for ejecting the mag and two activation modes for the dual ejection ports, the flipside one and the one activated with a pin, like the guy from armietiro used to change ejection ports... Very impressive and the complete ambidextrious rifle out there... Even the bolt release is located where a right handed or a left-handed person can activate it, the same one the XM8 had... in the center, not two switches on e on each side... I was glad at least this XM8 feature outlived that weapon's shelving... Beretta, very good entry! Congratulations! Guys,

I think this gun puts the ACR to shame: it is ambi in EVERY SINGLE WAY: bolt catch, bolt release, ejection ports, cocking, barrel removal, etc…

There are two videos, two italian, and one from SHOT SHOW 2010 where this beauty of engineering is being demonstrated: please, time out the time the guy takes to remove the barrel! It puts ACR to shame, not to mention the real show-stopper: the dual ejection ports!!

The Italian links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4CcvW3I3M&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ptYAwft0dU

The SHOT SHOW 2010 one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejzPiUYYzg&feature=fvsr

Great rifle and the design is futuristic, not to mention very functional…

By the way, the ACR is almost all polymer, and I trust Beretta more to make a good rifle than the beginner Magpul! At least. the ARX is already serving one Army! What about the ACR?! Overpricy, overhyped and over-stealing from other companies’ patented designs, it seems!

This ARX is the real deal and a couple of design changes would make it the BEST around!

Remember, three points for ejecting the mag and two activation modes for the dual ejection ports, the flipside one and the one activated with a pin, like the guy from armietiro used to change ejection ports…

Very impressive and the complete ambidextrious rifle out there… Even the bolt release is located where a right handed or a left-handed person can activate it, the same one the XM8 had… in the center, not two switches on e on each side… I was glad at least this XM8 feature outlived that weapon’s shelving…

Beretta, very good entry! Congratulations!

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]]> By: Lorenzo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-28433 Lorenzo Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:38:50 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-28433 As an Italian I can say it's one of the ugliest rifles I've seen in my life. I think Beretta could do much better in design as this. As an Italian I can say it’s one of the ugliest rifles I’ve seen in my life.
I think Beretta could do much better in design as this.

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]]> By: AK™ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-27374 AK™ Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:45:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-27374 I'll take mine in Ferrari Red please ;) I’ll take mine in Ferrari Red please ;)

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]]> By: Andrew from Italy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-12640 Andrew from Italy Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:32:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-12640 Some info on this weapon, directly from Italy: 1: you swapped the changing times.... you can change barrel in no longer than a couple of minutes and can swap the ejection side in 2 seconds, it has a hidden switch you can activate with a bullet point for that. 2: The weapon is not mutuated from the px4-cx4 family, it is an entirely new weapon, enginereed specifically for the Italian army. It sports 10 international patents and for now a civilian version is not in their minds. 3: the main features of this rifle are: The fact it works with no (or a very small quantity of) lubricant, thus making it really resistant in adverse environment It will be available in 5,56 Nato, 7,62x39 and 6,8 SPC The ejection swap switch, wich allows to shoot from angles with the camera provided in the "Soldato Futuro" system without being pummeled by hot cases :) It has a great stability in auto shooting, it's very accurate and his weight is lower than most of other assault rifles, while still having a 16" heavy barrel. Some info on this weapon, directly from Italy:

1: you swapped the changing times…. you can change barrel in no longer than a couple of minutes and can swap the ejection side in 2 seconds, it has a hidden switch you can activate with a bullet point for that.

2: The weapon is not mutuated from the px4-cx4 family, it is an entirely new weapon, enginereed specifically for the Italian army. It sports 10 international patents and for now a civilian version is not in their minds.

3: the main features of this rifle are:

The fact it works with no (or a very small quantity of) lubricant, thus making it really resistant in adverse environment

It will be available in 5,56 Nato, 7,62×39 and 6,8 SPC

The ejection swap switch, wich allows to shoot from angles with the camera provided in the “Soldato Futuro” system without being pummeled by hot cases :)

It has a great stability in auto shooting, it’s very accurate and his weight is lower than most of other assault rifles, while still having a 16″ heavy barrel.

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]]> By: AK™ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9485 AK™ Tue, 12 May 2009 01:45:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9485 The last picture reminds me of the M8. The last picture reminds me of the M8.

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]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9344 jdun1911 Fri, 08 May 2009 02:43:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9344 A member of AR15 from the Italian Army posted information on the rifle. There are some interesting comments that was brought up. You guys might want to take a look. IMO plastic are bad in military rifles. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865517&page=1 A member of AR15 from the Italian Army posted information on the rifle. There are some interesting comments that was brought up. You guys might want to take a look.

IMO plastic are bad in military rifles.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=865517&page=1

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]]> By: woodfiend http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9338 woodfiend Fri, 08 May 2009 02:09:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9338 I think it's a really cool gun, but the rails on the fore end make it look unbalanced. Just looks like more style could have been put into the fore end to make it "morph" more into a more natural looking weapon. I think it’s a really cool gun, but the rails on the fore end make it look unbalanced. Just looks like more style could have been put into the fore end to make it “morph” more into a more natural looking weapon.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9332 Steve Fri, 08 May 2009 01:22:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9332 Overload, I have heard nothing to indicate that they will produce a civilian version. On the other hand Beretta does produce civilian semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns so maybe they will. Overload, I have heard nothing to indicate that they will produce a civilian version. On the other hand Beretta does produce civilian semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns so maybe they will.

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]]> By: Overload in CO http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9327 Overload in CO Thu, 07 May 2009 23:35:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9327 Any chance we'll see a semi auto version here in the US? Any chance we’ll see a semi auto version here in the US?

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]]> By: Cmathews http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9321 Cmathews Thu, 07 May 2009 20:25:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9321 So it has a polymer upper as well? Is this the evolution of the Beretta RX4 Storm, or an entirely new direction? So it has a polymer upper as well? Is this the evolution of the Beretta RX4 Storm, or an entirely new direction?

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9318 Matt Groom Thu, 07 May 2009 17:56:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9318 I think it looks kinda ugly for an Italian design. They usually have such cool looking heaters, this one is kinda 'blah'. I wonder how many lugs the bolt has? Fixed ejector or spring loaded? Is there a buffer system? Are the barrels chrome lined? 5.45x39 is an excellent idea, since it has the same sized rim as the 6.8 SPC and both of those cartridges are going to be popular with civilians, so it's ready to sell in the US if they want to build it here. You think 16" barrels were an accident? I think it looks kinda ugly for an Italian design. They usually have such cool looking heaters, this one is kinda ‘blah’.

I wonder how many lugs the bolt has? Fixed ejector or spring loaded? Is there a buffer system? Are the barrels chrome lined?

5.45×39 is an excellent idea, since it has the same sized rim as the 6.8 SPC and both of those cartridges are going to be popular with civilians, so it’s ready to sell in the US if they want to build it here. You think 16″ barrels were an accident?

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]]> By: rutgers95 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9315 rutgers95 Thu, 07 May 2009 17:22:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9315 Seems pretty interesting, glad we got another in 6.8! Seems pretty interesting, glad we got another in 6.8!

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]]> By: mattling http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9307 mattling Thu, 07 May 2009 14:07:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9307 I look forward to seeing it in scifi movies. That thing looks badass. I look forward to seeing it in scifi movies. That thing looks badass.

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]]> By: Canthros http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/05/07/beretta-arx-glx-160/comment-page-1/#comment-9303 Canthros Thu, 07 May 2009 12:44:51 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=6207#comment-9303 If I were Magpul, I might be pretty torqued about this. That said, can't say as I much care for the looks of that thing. If I were Magpul, I might be pretty torqued about this.

That said, can’t say as I much care for the looks of that thing.

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