Comments on: Fragmenting .50 BMG Ammo http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ESMan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-48247 ESMan Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:42:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-48247 Please look at our new website; www.extremeshockusa.net This round is real and is being utilized by various organizations. Please look at our new website; http://www.extremeshockusa.net

This round is real and is being utilized by various organizations.

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]]> By: AJ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-41463 AJ Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:45:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-41463 Box O Truth website reviewed a bunch of Extreme Shock ammunition and found it to perform less than advertised. It's all hype, expensive as hell and doesn't produce results. When testing the pistol ammo that was supposed to break up on contact to prevent over-penetration, the round did not break up at all. I suspect this 50BMG stuff to be the same as the rest.Hype. Box O Truth website reviewed a bunch of Extreme Shock ammunition and found it to perform less than advertised. It’s all hype, expensive as hell and doesn’t produce results. When testing the pistol ammo that was supposed to break up on contact to prevent over-penetration, the round did not break up at all. I suspect this 50BMG stuff to be the same as the rest.Hype.

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]]> By: ParatrooperJJ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-8278 ParatrooperJJ Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:29:30 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-8278 It doesn't work. Pure marketing hype. It doesn’t work. Pure marketing hype.

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]]> By: DrStrangegun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7937 DrStrangegun Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:30:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7937 Something like this that actually works would be incredible for interdiction and hostage situations... That is, if it actually works. The marketing and hype make me trust extreme-shock about as far as I can hit something with a BP NAA mini-revolver. Something like this that actually works would be incredible for interdiction and hostage situations…

That is, if it actually works. The marketing and hype make me trust extreme-shock about as far as I can hit something with a BP NAA mini-revolver.

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]]> By: Dom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7902 Dom Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:08:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7902 This is the company that brought us "anti-terrorism munitions," right? Because terrorists are impervious to normal bullets. Among said munitions? The "Fang Face" round. "Explosive entry" indeed. A buddy and I spent about 20 minutes laughing at their other website (http://www.extremeshockusa.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product_info.html&setup=1). It reads like an energy drink commercial. Or maybe a parody of one, like Powerthirst. I'm pretty sure Linoge nailed it - their products are almost entirely solutions looking for a problem. Who really needs ammunition this complex - er, "advanced?" Some of the special-purpose frangibles probably have a place, that market could use more competition. But I'm pretty sure the existing technology for what to shoot at terrorists is more than adequate. This is the company that brought us “anti-terrorism munitions,” right? Because terrorists are impervious to normal bullets. Among said munitions? The “Fang Face” round. “Explosive entry” indeed.

A buddy and I spent about 20 minutes laughing at their other website (http://www.extremeshockusa.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product_info.html&setup=1). It reads like an energy drink commercial. Or maybe a parody of one, like Powerthirst.

I’m pretty sure Linoge nailed it – their products are almost entirely solutions looking for a problem. Who really needs ammunition this complex – er, “advanced?” Some of the special-purpose frangibles probably have a place, that market could use more competition. But I’m pretty sure the existing technology for what to shoot at terrorists is more than adequate.

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]]> By: EmptorMaven http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7894 EmptorMaven Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:39:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7894 Let's see: they claim that Extreme Shock ammunition: 1. Does not deform on impact with non-liquid targets. 2. Fully fragments on contact with a liquid target. Sounds like ideal anti-personnel terminal ballistics, but it strains credibility to believe a solid, pointed bullet could behave that way in anything other than carefully orchestrated demonstrations. Let’s see: they claim that Extreme Shock ammunition:

1. Does not deform on impact with non-liquid targets.
2. Fully fragments on contact with a liquid target.

Sounds like ideal anti-personnel terminal ballistics, but it strains credibility to believe a solid, pointed bullet could behave that way in anything other than carefully orchestrated demonstrations.

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]]> By: Linoge http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7893 Linoge Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:35:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7893 Erf. If all of that energy gets expended on a single, solitary target... yeah, that target is going away. It does seem like a solution in search of a problem, though. Oh, and thanks for indicating that we have <em>not</em> signed the Hague Convention... I hate it when that argument comes up :). Erf. If all of that energy gets expended on a single, solitary target… yeah, that target is going away.

It does seem like a solution in search of a problem, though.

Oh, and thanks for indicating that we have not signed the Hague Convention… I hate it when that argument comes up :) .

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]]> By: 22lr http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7885 22lr Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:16:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7885 Dang and I thought regular FMJ .50 cal rounds were expensive. Dang and I thought regular FMJ .50 cal rounds were expensive.

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]]> By: Kyle Huff http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7873 Kyle Huff Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:36:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7873 OK, found it. 675 grains. OK, found it. 675 grains.

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]]> By: Kyle Huff http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7872 Kyle Huff Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7872 O.M.F.G. 0% mass retention. How many grains? O.M.F.G.
0% mass retention.
How many grains?

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]]> By: Tom Stone http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7840 Tom Stone Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:11:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7840 When you hit someone with one of these it will be messy. When you hit someone with one of these it will be messy.

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]]> By: Andy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7838 Andy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:59:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7838 If the marketing on their website is to be believed, the technology sounds like a great defensive round for home handguns. Anyone with experience? I'd certainly appreciate a 9mm round that didn't care for sheetrock but likes soft tissues of the bad guy. Not much on their SHOTSHOCK shotgun ammo, anyone know of a description? If the marketing on their website is to be believed, the technology sounds like a great defensive round for home handguns. Anyone with experience? I’d certainly appreciate a 9mm round that didn’t care for sheetrock but likes soft tissues of the bad guy.

Not much on their SHOTSHOCK shotgun ammo, anyone know of a description?

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/24/fragmenting-50-bmg-ammo/comment-page-1/#comment-7832 Matt Groom Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:07:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5719#comment-7832 I don't get it, a .50 BMG round that's intended to be less lethal? I think that if overpenetration is a concern, then .50 BMG is NOT an option. Anyone who thinks it is is...well, trying to sell expensive, exotic ammo. I don’t get it, a .50 BMG round that’s intended to be less lethal? I think that if overpenetration is a concern, then .50 BMG is NOT an option. Anyone who thinks it is is…well, trying to sell expensive, exotic ammo.

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