Comments on: Springfield XD .45 blown up http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: austin tipton http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-84930 austin tipton Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:47:25 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-84930 its says the low power round DIDNT and never left the chamber in the article there buddy. but shooting another fully loaded round was not a good idea at all, plus the low powered round was a stupid idea in the first place we could all take something from these guys stupidity. its says the low power round DIDNT and never left the chamber in the article there buddy. but shooting another fully loaded round was not a good idea at all, plus the low powered round was a stupid idea in the first place we could all take something from these guys stupidity.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: dave http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-56276 dave Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:15:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-56276 Makes me wonder if the powder was low enough that the bullet didn't exit the barrel, would it have enough charge to cycle the slide and be able to strip another round into the chamber? Wrong bullet size could of done that. It being slightly larger. who knows but im sure you can tell of a lighter load being shot and this is when the barrel must be checked for an obstruction! Makes me wonder if the powder was low enough that the bullet didn’t exit the barrel, would it have enough charge to cycle the slide and be able to strip another round into the chamber? Wrong bullet size could of done that. It being slightly larger. who knows but im sure you can tell of a lighter load being shot and this is when the barrel must be checked for an obstruction!

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Roger http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-52675 Roger Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:07:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-52675 Also, if you use lead bullets in polygonal rifling, make sure to clean the lead out before it builds up enough to raise pressures. It's better to stick to jacketed bullets, unless you're very careful. Also, if you use lead bullets in polygonal rifling, make sure to clean the lead out before it builds up enough to raise pressures. It’s better to stick to jacketed bullets, unless you’re very careful.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Roger http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-52673 Roger Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:58:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-52673 I believe John is correct - people aren't reloading safely. Judging from the loads some people post, which are above recommended maximums, some reloaders are hot-rodding their pistols to a dangerous extent. These guys evidently don't even consult reloading guides, or ignore the recommendations. They "work up loads", while having no pressure testing equipment. It's a wonder more guns aren't blown up. I've put nearly 900 reloads through my Glock 29 with zero problems, but I never go beyond the listed maximum loads. Also, some reloaders use magnum primers in the 10mm auto, which aren't required. Magnum primers and too much powder, and you can have serious problems, obviously. It's true - you can't fix stupid. I believe John is correct – people aren’t reloading safely. Judging from the loads some people post, which are above recommended maximums, some reloaders are hot-rodding their pistols to a dangerous extent. These guys evidently don’t even consult reloading guides, or ignore the recommendations. They “work up loads”, while having no pressure testing equipment. It’s a wonder more guns aren’t blown up.

I’ve put nearly 900 reloads through my Glock 29 with zero problems, but I never go beyond the listed maximum loads. Also, some reloaders use magnum primers in the 10mm auto, which aren’t required. Magnum primers and too much powder, and you can have serious problems, obviously.

It’s true – you can’t fix stupid.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39777 Mark Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:52:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-39777 Pay particular attention to the recoil of the pistol and the sound of the cartridge. Can easily be avoided if you pay attention at all times. If you think something is not right, unload the pistol and check it for a squib load as well as any other mechanical failures. Pay particular attention to the recoil of the pistol and the sound of the cartridge. Can easily be avoided if you pay attention at all times. If you think something is not right, unload the pistol and check it for a squib load as well as any other mechanical failures.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0
]]> By: john http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-27402 john Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:59:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-27402 dont take me as being an xd hater im not, in fact im about ready to purchase an xd .45, i think they are solid handguns , i think alot of people are not reloading safe loads . dont take me as being an xd hater im not, in fact im about ready to purchase an xd .45, i think they are solid handguns , i think alot of people are not reloading safe loads .

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: john http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-27400 john Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:14:28 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-27400 glocks arent blowing up by themseves ,their suferring bullet setback improper crimps ,and people arent carefully weighing their loads , how does a gun ," blow up by itself" , hmm have to see that one ,physics miracle. glocks arent blowing up by themseves ,their suferring bullet setback improper crimps ,and people arent carefully weighing their loads , how does a gun ,” blow up by itself” , hmm have to see that one ,physics miracle.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: brandon http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-27353 brandon Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:42:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-27353 I own a XD 45 it is a great firearm.I have almost had 3 squibs from a 22LR.H&R 9 shot revolver from factory loads one time but it was my fault I was hauling square bails of hay and got sweaty and the pistol was in my pocket and somehow dampened the bullets powder I believe that would never happen to center fire though 3 rounds popped but went out the barrel very weakly the loads were top of the line for 22 they start wt a c is all I'm going to say. I own a XD 45 it is a great firearm.I have almost had 3 squibs from a 22LR.H&R 9 shot revolver from factory loads one time but it was my fault I was hauling square bails of hay and got sweaty and the pistol was in my pocket and somehow dampened the bullets powder I believe that would never happen to center fire though 3 rounds popped but went out the barrel very weakly the loads were top of the line for 22 they start wt a c is all I’m going to say.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: King http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-22802 King Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:35:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-22802 As long as you are simply target shooting, a squib load is fairly easy to catch. The real issue comes when you have a squib load and you are shooting multiple rounds rapidly. Defensive/Tactical applications dictate that a lot of your training requires you to fire this way. My advise is to either not worry about squib loads when you are training or only buy factory ammunition from a reputable manufacturer. If you worry about a squib load then you are not paying enough attention to what you should be doing. As stated above in this thread, I agree that it is never a good idea to buy reloads from some one that you do not know and or trust with your life. Reload yourself when you are alert and not under the influence, or buy Factory. It does look more like an over loaded round rather than a squib load. As long as you are simply target shooting, a squib load is fairly easy to catch. The real issue comes when you have a squib load and you are shooting multiple rounds rapidly. Defensive/Tactical applications dictate that a lot of your training requires you to fire this way. My advise is to either not worry about squib loads when you are training or only buy factory ammunition from a reputable manufacturer. If you worry about a squib load then you are not paying enough attention to what you should be doing. As stated above in this thread, I agree that it is never a good idea to buy reloads from some one that you do not know and or trust with your life. Reload yourself when you are alert and not under the influence, or buy Factory. It does look more like an over loaded round rather than a squib load.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Jim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-22451 Jim Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:32:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-22451 Thanks to my reloading skills, or lack there of, when I got my progressive reloader, I failed to put powder in a few. I've remedied that since. The result was about 3 or 4 squibs, in my XD 45ACP, with only the primer punching the slug barely out of the case. I had to pry the slide back with a thin screwdriver blade on my trusty Swiss Army knife. The bullets were lodged so far back, I couldnt load a round behind them anyway.....which is what probably saved me. A quick strip down, and application of the old wooden spoon handle, had me back in action in about 2 minutes. Now, I remain very aware of each round fired and never assume anything. I wish I didn't have to reload to afford to shoot. The wife hasn't missed that short handled, oak spoon yet, but it has sure turned out to be a handy resident in my range bag. Thanks to my reloading skills, or lack there of, when I got my progressive reloader, I failed to put powder in a few. I’ve remedied that since. The result was about 3 or 4 squibs, in my XD 45ACP, with only the primer punching the slug barely out of the case. I had to pry the slide back with a thin screwdriver blade on my trusty Swiss Army knife. The bullets were lodged so far back, I couldnt load a round behind them anyway…..which is what probably saved me. A quick strip down, and application of the old wooden spoon handle, had me back in action in about 2 minutes. Now, I remain very aware of each round fired and never assume anything. I wish I didn’t have to reload to afford to shoot. The wife hasn’t missed that short handled, oak spoon yet, but it has sure turned out to be a handy resident in my range bag.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Chitown http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-14546 Chitown Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:39:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-14546 Easiest and safest solution - buy HK http://www.streetpro.com/usp/torture.html Easiest and safest solution – buy HK

http://www.streetpro.com/usp/torture.html

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Dan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-12664 Dan Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:53:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-12664 Looks more like an overcharged handload from how the barrel just blew up. I doubt a squib could provide that much damage to the barrel. Looks more like an overcharged handload from how the barrel just blew up. I doubt a squib could provide that much damage to the barrel.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: the Gunslinger http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11418 the Gunslinger Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:22:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-11418 I just bought one of these pistols,and it's kinda' good to see it's even fairly safe when it catastrphically fails. I've only experienced one squib (that wasn't rimfire) in all of my shooting. It was with a Desert Eagle .44 Magnum auto,and I still thank God to this day that I realized the "pop" was way too soft and I should hold back the next shot. I can't even imagine what a rear end collision in THAT bore would have done!! -Rob I just bought one of these pistols,and it’s kinda’ good to see it’s even fairly safe when it catastrphically fails. I’ve only experienced one squib (that wasn’t rimfire) in all of my shooting. It was with a Desert Eagle .44 Magnum auto,and I still thank God to this day that I realized the “pop” was way too soft and I should hold back the next shot. I can’t even imagine what a rear end collision in THAT bore would have done!!
-Rob

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-10890 Mike Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:02:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-10890 I once stuck a bullet in a Colt Series 70 .45ACP - this was at least 25+ years ago. Bulged the barrel with the next round and the pistol was locked open. Gunsmith took a look, laughed and took it into his shop. He whacked it with something and took it apart. Bulged barrel but no other damage - replaced barrel and good to go. Still have the pistol. I once stuck a bullet in a Colt Series 70 .45ACP – this was at least 25+ years ago.

Bulged the barrel with the next round and the pistol was locked open.

Gunsmith took a look, laughed and took it into his shop. He whacked it with something and took it apart. Bulged barrel but no other damage – replaced barrel and good to go. Still have the pistol.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Carl http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8143 Carl Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:49:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-8143 I don´t see how this is such a great success? Wouldn´t it be better if both bullets were pushed out rather than the barrel exploding? From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_USP "During testing, a bullet was deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into the obstructing bullet. The second bullet cleared the barrel, resulting in a barely noticeable bulge. The pistol was then fired for accuracy and the resulting group measured less than 4 inches at 25 meters." I don´t see how this is such a great success?
Wouldn´t it be better if both bullets were pushed out rather than the barrel exploding?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_USP

“During testing, a bullet was deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into the obstructing bullet. The second bullet cleared the barrel, resulting in a barely noticeable bulge. The pistol was then fired for accuracy and the resulting group measured less than 4 inches at 25 meters.”

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: "gunner" http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7533 "gunner" Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:56:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-7533 you make excellent sense dr. strangegun. the squib i had in the webley was very likely my own fault, though i usually eyeball check, loading only batches of 50 rounds at a time, i must have somehow missed that round. no fault on the gun, it held up surprisingly well for a late 19th century antique. the only suggestion i can add to your remarks is "do your reloading when you're rested, awake and alert, not tired and half sleepy, and leave the alcohol until you've closed down the loading bench and gone off to watch t.v. or read a book." "gunner" you make excellent sense dr. strangegun. the squib i had in the webley was very likely my own fault, though i usually eyeball check, loading only batches of 50 rounds at a time, i must have somehow missed that round. no fault on the gun, it held up surprisingly well for a late 19th century antique. the only suggestion i can add to your remarks is “do your reloading when you’re rested, awake and alert, not tired and half sleepy, and leave the alcohol until you’ve closed down the loading bench and gone off to watch t.v. or read a book.”
“gunner”

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: DrStrangegun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7514 DrStrangegun Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:07:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-7514 Hrmm. Couple of points to ponder. 1 - If you reload with an automatic powder measure, HAVE A POWDER CHECK DIE. 2 - If you reload with an automatic powder measure, and don't have a powder check die, or at least in my thinking, I would throw my rounds in a bag and jumble them so I don't use them in order. If the drop tube were to gum up a little bit and short a load, then the natural result would be to overcharge the next, right? Jumbling them avoids firing a 1.x overload directly after a squib. Am I making sense? Hrmm. Couple of points to ponder.

1 – If you reload with an automatic powder measure, HAVE A POWDER CHECK DIE.

2 – If you reload with an automatic powder measure, and don’t have a powder check die, or at least in my thinking, I would throw my rounds in a bag and jumble them so I don’t use them in order.

If the drop tube were to gum up a little bit and short a load, then the natural result would be to overcharge the next, right? Jumbling them avoids firing a 1.x overload directly after a squib.

Am I making sense?

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7498 jdun1911 Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:08:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-7498 The guy in the forum gone to great length to make sure it's not the fault of XD but his reload. I don't recommend buying reloaded ammo. Make your own or buy factory ammo. The guy in the forum gone to great length to make sure it’s not the fault of XD but his reload.

I don’t recommend buying reloaded ammo. Make your own or buy factory ammo.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: "gunner" http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7492 "gunner" Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:33:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-7492 i once had the same thing, a squib load in a mark one webley .45 conversion, shooting .45 auto-rim loads, firing a fast string. the cylinder and frame latch held and all i got was a bulged barrel about halfway down. i replaced the barrel and got several more years shooting out of the gun before selling it. "gunner" i once had the same thing, a squib load in a mark one webley .45 conversion, shooting .45 auto-rim loads, firing a fast string. the cylinder and frame latch held and all i got was a bulged barrel about halfway down. i replaced the barrel and got several more years shooting out of the gun before selling it.
“gunner”

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Tom Stone http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7487 Tom Stone Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:50:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5597#comment-7487 I have had 2 squib loads using factory reloads while taking a firearms class,and witnessed several more.These reloads were provided by the school,and were in both 9mm and .45.No injury to the firearms or shooters resulted since the problem surfaced during an aimed fire part of the course.The commercial reloader had recieved a batch of bad primers from a major manufacturer and he did replace the Ammo at no cost to the school.I will still use commercial reloads for practice but am always aware of the potential for misfires. I have had 2 squib loads using factory reloads while taking a firearms class,and witnessed several more.These reloads were provided by the school,and were in both 9mm and .45.No injury to the firearms or shooters resulted since the problem surfaced during an aimed fire part of the course.The commercial reloader had recieved a batch of bad primers from a major manufacturer and he did replace the Ammo at no cost to the school.I will still use commercial reloads for practice but am always aware of the potential for misfires.

Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]>