Comments on: H&R Handi Rifle in .45-70 Government http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RICK WATERS http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-86120 RICK WATERS Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:16:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-86120 JUST BOUGHT 45.70 HANDI FROM DICKS PAID 239.99 LOVE IT HORNDY LEVER SHOOTS GOOD IN IT HAVENT TRIED BUFFALO BORE I HEARD IT IS HOT CANT WAIT FOR DEER SEASON I LIVE IN SHREVEPORT LA. WE HAVE PRIMITIVE HUNT HERE RICK GOD BLESS AMERICA JUST BOUGHT 45.70 HANDI FROM DICKS PAID 239.99 LOVE IT HORNDY LEVER SHOOTS GOOD IN IT HAVENT TRIED BUFFALO BORE I HEARD IT IS HOT CANT WAIT FOR DEER SEASON I LIVE IN SHREVEPORT LA. WE HAVE PRIMITIVE HUNT HERE RICK GOD BLESS AMERICA

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]]> By: Jake Rio http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-72492 Jake Rio Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:58:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-72492 A H&R 25/70 Buffalo Classic has a 32" barrel, comes with a peep sight and a hooded front sight. I use it for long range shoots ay SASS ( Single Action Shooting Society) matches. The rifle performs very well. We shoot 200 yards at a 24" round metal target. With a dead rest a miss is the shooters fault. I shoot 300 gr. Vance bullets, 11 grs. powder, W/W brass, federal primers....makes a good round for 200 yards....any longer you need to use a heavier bullet..... A H&R 25/70 Buffalo Classic has a 32″ barrel, comes with a peep sight and a hooded front sight. I use it for long range shoots ay SASS ( Single Action Shooting Society) matches. The rifle performs very well. We shoot 200 yards at a 24″ round metal target. With a dead rest a miss is the shooters fault. I shoot 300 gr. Vance bullets, 11 grs. powder, W/W brass, federal primers….makes a good round for 200 yards….any longer you need to use a heavier bullet…..

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]]> By: terry cislowski http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-34757 terry cislowski Wed, 26 May 2010 09:01:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-34757 i have just sold my dd-ss 45-70 it was a nice gun to shoot useing reloads 405g pill with 28g AR2207 1150/1200 fpm 8ozs mercury recoil suppressor and limp saver pad turn intoo a top gun sold as was in shit over club crapp offer at the time i was pissoff i shot paper only at range i have just sold my dd-ss 45-70 it was a nice gun to shoot useing reloads 405g pill with 28g AR2207 1150/1200 fpm 8ozs mercury recoil suppressor and limp saver pad turn intoo a top gun sold as was in shit over club crapp offer at the time i was pissoff i shot paper only at range

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]]> By: Dave Stanley http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-34647 Dave Stanley Tue, 25 May 2010 04:00:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-34647 I got one of these H&R 45-70s for Christmas this past year. It is a great rifle. It weighs about 6 lb, and I can carry it all day without a problem. It is pretty accurate out to 100 yd. with open sights. It came sighted at the factory dead on the bullseye at 100 yd. It fires about 4 in. high at 50 yd.. The recoil is about what a 20 gauge shot shell is like. I kinda feel that since the factory in Gardner,Mass. was shut down this past year the qulity of some of H&Rs weapons are not as good as they used to be. I own a .410 bore and a 20 gauge H&R too. The 20 gauge was made at the new site in Illium,New York. It gave me a few problems when I first got it. It had sharp edges that I had to stone down and had a sticky firing pin. The weapons that came out of the Gardner,Mass. plant were flawless.My 45-70 was made at Gardner as well as my .410 bore. I handload the Hornandy 500 gn. Interbond round,the 350 gn round that they make,and I like the Remington 405 gn store bought round. There are many different rounds available for this rifle. I only shoot targets with mine,but my deer hunting buddies that use it claim they seldom hit a buck that takes more than one step before they drop. I think between this rifle and my .17 HMR Savage I pretty well have everything covered that I might run into. I got one of these H&R 45-70s for Christmas this past year. It is a great rifle. It weighs about 6 lb, and I can carry it all day without a problem. It is pretty accurate out to 100 yd. with open sights. It came sighted at the factory dead on the bullseye at 100 yd. It fires about 4 in. high at 50 yd.. The recoil is about what a 20 gauge shot shell is like. I kinda feel that since the factory in Gardner,Mass. was shut down this past year the qulity of some of H&Rs weapons are not as good as they used to be. I own a .410 bore and a 20 gauge H&R too. The 20 gauge was made at the new site in Illium,New York. It gave me a few problems when I first got it. It had sharp edges that I had to stone down and had a sticky firing pin. The weapons that came out of the Gardner,Mass. plant were flawless.My 45-70 was made at Gardner as well as my .410 bore. I handload the Hornandy 500 gn. Interbond round,the 350 gn round that they make,and I like the Remington 405 gn store bought round. There are many different rounds available for this rifle. I only shoot targets with mine,but my deer hunting buddies that use it claim they seldom hit a buck that takes more than one step before they drop. I think between this rifle and my .17 HMR Savage I pretty well have everything covered that I might run into.

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]]> By: terry cislowski http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-30030 terry cislowski Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:19:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-30030 i have a 223 nice gun to shoot 100y 5 shot in 3/4 " have just order a 45-70 be my hands i hope in 2to 3weeks to shoot bai game rifle in 25/50/75/100/200y's i shoot 45-70 in bb it vere nice to plug a way with shooting with 375/416 12g slug bsa martin made in 1906 fitted new slug barrel all fitted with mercury recoil suppressors fitted by me no more recil then a 303 or 308 load 375 70g 2209 pill 350g 416 90g 2209 410 g pill 45-70 28g 2207 pill 405g lead mareeba QLD australia i have a 223 nice gun to shoot 100y 5 shot in 3/4 ” have just order a 45-70 be my hands i hope in 2to 3weeks to shoot bai game rifle in 25/50/75/100/200y’s i shoot 45-70 in bb it vere nice to plug a way with
shooting with 375/416 12g slug bsa martin made in 1906 fitted new slug barrel all fitted with mercury recoil suppressors fitted by me no more recil then a 303 or 308 load 375 70g 2209 pill 350g 416 90g 2209 410 g pill
45-70 28g 2207 pill 405g lead mareeba QLD australia

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-28681 Steve Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:15:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-28681 Patty, I am! Patty, I am!

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]]> By: Patty http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-28666 Patty Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:01:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-28666 OP:You sound like a weenie! OP:You sound like a weenie!

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]]> By: Stephanie http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-26985 Stephanie Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:18:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-26985 I absolutely love my dad's 45-70. I fired it three times during deer season and have three nice deer to show for it. The recoil never gave me problems. I loved it so much, that my husband got me one for valentine's day. The longest shot I made was 160 yds. and it was dead on (literally). I haven't tried shooting it further, so I'm not real sure what it will do. I absolutely love my dad’s 45-70. I fired it three times during deer season and have three nice deer to show for it. The recoil never gave me problems. I loved it so much, that my husband got me one for valentine’s day. The longest shot I made was 160 yds. and it was dead on (literally). I haven’t tried shooting it further, so I’m not real sure what it will do.

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]]> By: mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-26828 mark Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:43:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-26828 I have owned my 45-70 handi for 15 yrs,after tial and tribulation i found the 350 gr.with 3031 imr puts the bullet out there at about 1900 fps no problem.It is alot of fun at 500 to1200 yrds.Three years ago i was drawn for cow elk.At 93 yards the cow turned just as i fired .The bullet hit her in the left hind quarter and came out of her neck, breaking it as it exited.As far as recoil goes,i put an old rubber pad i had on my 30-06 stock.I can shoot 50 rnds and i am fine.But word to the wise,this is a hot rnd I have owned my 45-70 handi for 15 yrs,after tial and tribulation i found the 350 gr.with 3031 imr puts the bullet out there at about 1900 fps no problem.It is alot of fun at 500 to1200 yrds.Three years ago i was drawn for cow elk.At 93 yards the cow turned just as i fired .The bullet hit her in the left hind quarter and came out of her neck, breaking it as it exited.As far as recoil goes,i put an old rubber pad i had on my 30-06 stock.I can shoot 50 rnds and i am fine.But word to the wise,this is a hot rnd

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]]> By: chris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-24145 chris Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:27:48 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-24145 Does anybody know whether or not you can make loads (45-70) for these guns that are for a ruger #1. I haven't been able to find the maximum pressure for this rifle. My hornady reloading book separates the 45-70 into 3 pressure classes: ruger #1, other modern 45-70s, and trapdoors. I have made some fairly hot loads and it handled them well up to about 51.3 grains of IMR4198 (I think this was the powder) and a 480 grain bullet. The rifle hammered my shoulder, keep in mind that the stock is full of #8 shot. I think the recoil was more intense than it was with factory loads and no lead in the stock. Some of the cases cracked and and had holes in them near the crimp. But I may have over crimped them as I have only recently started to reload. Does anybody know whether or not you can make loads (45-70) for these guns that are for a ruger #1. I haven’t been able to find the maximum pressure for this rifle. My hornady reloading book separates the 45-70 into 3 pressure classes: ruger #1, other modern 45-70s, and trapdoors. I have made some fairly hot loads and it handled them well up to about 51.3 grains of IMR4198 (I think this was the powder) and a 480 grain bullet. The rifle hammered my shoulder, keep in mind that the stock is full of #8 shot. I think the recoil was more intense than it was with factory loads and no lead in the stock. Some of the cases cracked and and had holes in them near the crimp. But I may have over crimped them as I have only recently started to reload.

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]]> By: Jesse http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-24053 Jesse Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:46:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-24053 Sorry, I should have listed bullet weight. These are 325 grain in Hornady and 300 grain in Remington. Sorry, I should have listed bullet weight. These are 325 grain in Hornady and 300 grain in Remington.

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]]> By: Jesse http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-24052 Jesse Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:44:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-24052 That number is for the 405 grain cowboy bullet. Hornady's flex tip is 2050/fps and Remington's soft point is 1880/fps. I know people who kill deer all the time with these rounds in the Handi rifle. That number is for the 405 grain cowboy bullet. Hornady’s flex tip is 2050/fps and Remington’s soft point is 1880/fps. I know people who kill deer all the time with these rounds in the Handi rifle.

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]]> By: bj hicks http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-22943 bj hicks Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:35:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-22943 Anyone know if h&r is going to make a 300 mag barrel for the handi rifle? And what they charge to get trigger work done? Thanks! Anyone know if h&r is going to make a 300 mag barrel for the handi rifle? And what they charge to get trigger work done? Thanks!

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]]> By: John S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-22632 John S. Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:15:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-22632 Hello again, I'm thinking of buying one of these guns but I looked in a shooter's bible an old one and the ballistics for this cal. aren't that great which surprised me. According to the book this cartridge only has a muzzle velocity of a little over 1300 fps. and the energy is not that great either. Please tell me that this info is outdated and it's actually better than this. I have always heard stories about this cartridge having a great deal of power and energy. That it was a good long distance gun for big dangerous game, please tell me this is still true. Thanks John S. Hello again, I’m thinking of buying one of these guns but I looked in a shooter’s bible an old one and the ballistics for this cal. aren’t that great which surprised me. According to the book this cartridge only has a muzzle velocity of a little over 1300 fps. and the energy is not that great either. Please tell me that this info is outdated and it’s actually better than this. I have always heard stories about this cartridge having a great deal of power and energy. That it was a good long distance gun for big dangerous game, please tell me this is still true.

Thanks John S.

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]]> By: John S. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-22630 John S. Fri, 25 Dec 2009 18:58:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-22630 Hey Sidney, If you just bought it take it back it should be still under warranty. Hey Sidney, If you just bought it take it back it should be still under warranty.

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]]> By: Sidney Corley http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-16927 Sidney Corley Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:19:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-16927 I just purchased the H&R 45.70 government rifle. Took it to the range today and it misfied. Firing pin is bent. Where, in the middle Georgia area, can I have it repaired. Thank you, Sidney Corley I just purchased the H&R 45.70 government rifle. Took it to the range today and it misfied. Firing pin is bent. Where, in the middle Georgia area, can I have it repaired.

Thank you,

Sidney Corley

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]]> By: Ken http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-16146 Ken Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:29:01 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-16146 It's an awesome rifle, had one for a few years. Just watch out for the "lever action" cartriges, for some reason they pack way more punch than the standard. It’s an awesome rifle, had one for a few years. Just watch out for the “lever action” cartriges, for some reason they pack way more punch than the standard.

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]]> By: Limp http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-15568 Limp Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:15:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-15568 1200 yards with a handi rifle? What a goober.. 1200 yards with a handi rifle? What a goober..

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]]> By: Tracy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-14811 Tracy Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:52:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-14811 I own an H&R 45-70 govt. I have found the recoil to be not much different than that of a 12 gauge shot gun. It's rather accurate with open sights. Scope helps with those 1200 yard shots. Now my H&R 500 S&W is a different story. I own an H&R 45-70 govt. I have found the recoil to be not much different than that of a 12 gauge shot gun. It’s rather accurate with open sights. Scope helps with those 1200 yard shots. Now my H&R 500 S&W is a different story.

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]]> By: chris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/15/hr-handi-rifle-in-45-70-government/comment-page-1/#comment-8821 chris Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:34:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5580#comment-8821 I have a 45-70 handi-rifle and it used to kick like a mule until I put about 3 pounds of shot in the stock. It is a bit heavy now in the rear end, but recoil is minimal. I have a 45-70 handi-rifle and it used to kick like a mule until I put about 3 pounds of shot in the stock. It is a bit heavy now in the rear end, but recoil is minimal.

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