S&W 625 fully suppressed revolver

The PSDR 3 is a fully suppressed .45 ACP Smith & Wesson Model 625 revolver developed in 1993 by Joe Peters, under contract from Northrhine-Westphalia, for Germany’s SEK (SWAT) teams.

This photo is from Visier Special 6, 1997 (special edition of one of the three big German gun journals):

psdr 3 tm S&W 625 fully suppressed revolver photo
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Revolvers cannot be effectively suppressed because gas escapes from between the cylinder and the barrel creating noise (there are some exceptions). The big shell that encloses the cylinder of the PSDR 3 prevents the gas from escaping. This combined with a big suppressor and a subsonic .45 ACP round causes a noise reduction from 136 dB to 90 dB which is comparable to a CO2 air gun. Decibels are a logarithmic unit of measurement, so a 46 dB reduction is significant. In theory this gun should make a lot less noise than a suppressed semi-automatic pistol because there no slide slamming open and closed.

I had no idea such a gun existed until Sven emailed me. I really like the idea – German engineering at its best!
Many thanks to Sven, who blog at Defense and Freedom, for the scanned page and translation.

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  1. J of Jwrote on December 15th, 2009 at 7:39 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    i like the kac vertion beater

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  2. komradwrote on September 03rd, 2009 at 9:52 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’d take a DeLisle .45 acp carbine over that thing. It was so quiet that working the bolt was loader than the gun firing.

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  3. SplitHoofwrote on July 15th, 2009 at 2:03 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Another solution to a problem that dosen’t exist. You could supress an Uzi pistol in the same caliber for a lot le$$, in a smaller package. However, the European’s are known for over-engineering everything.

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  4. dylan brunswrote on March 18th, 2009 at 5:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    that’s awesome

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  5. Cybrluditewrote on March 12th, 2009 at 11:50 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That’s German engineering for you. I hear that a German anvil has 30 moving parts, and has to be wound every ten minutes of use.

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  6. Starik Igolkinwrote on March 06th, 2009 at 5:42 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Very cool, but from practical side it looks over-engineered, to be honest. Wouldn’t Nagant M1895 with a silencer do the same thing simpler and cheaper?

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  7. Nickwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 9:44 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I assumed we were talking about something like a Rem. 700, but I guess that counts too. Forgot about it.

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  8. Nickwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:53 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “but I can’t see an advantage over a simple bolt-action with a threaded can.”

    Are you serious? Obvious advantage: Size. A bolt gun isn’t a huge lot of good inside a building, or in a position where you’re only a few meters away from your target.

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  9. EmptorMavenwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:36 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Gees, I guess it goes to show you can engineer your way around anything, but I can’t see an advantage over a simple bolt-action with a threaded can. I mean you have to pop open two cylinder seals to reload, and all so you can get six consecutive shots of a double-action revolver trigger?

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    • Steveresponded to EmptorMaven on March 04th, 2009 at 4:39 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      EmptorMaven, over a bolt action I would say it is probably shorter in length, you can fire faster (just pull the trigger, no bolt cycling). After more than a couple of shots I imagine your target(s) probably know you are about and best pull out a high capacity sub gun/pistol/rifle.

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  10. Valhallawrote on March 04th, 2009 at 9:09 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What beauty… its elegant cylinder, its sublime scope thingamajigit…

    For all the assassins, no jamming, no sound, and coming soon, no bullets.

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  11. guywrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Those disk shaped devices on the front of the cylinder interest me.

    Do those mate with the big cover to provide a better seal, or are they just a bearing surface to help the cylinder rotate smoothly against the tight fitting shell?

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  12. Leisureguywrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:12 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Interesting. I had always assumed that a suppressor on a revolver was a mug’s game. Not so, it seems.

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  13. Alrewrote on March 04th, 2009 at 6:02 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Horrible!

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  14. kvalsethwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:31 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Or you could just do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0

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  15. James R. Rummelwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Good post.

    James

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  16. Daniel E. Watterswrote on March 04th, 2009 at 3:09 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    You need to look up the suppressed Ruger GP100 and Super Redhawk that KAC developed. The telescoped ammunition they used was a pretty clever method to seal the cylinder gap.

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  1. Cybrluditewrote on March 12th, 2009 at 11:50 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    That’s German engineering for you. I hear that a German anvil has 30 moving parts, and has to be wound every ten minutes of use.

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  2. Starik Igolkinwrote on March 06th, 2009 at 5:42 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Very cool, but from practical side it looks over-engineered, to be honest. Wouldn’t Nagant M1895 with a silencer do the same thing simpler and cheaper?

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  3. Nickwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 9:44 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I assumed we were talking about something like a Rem. 700, but I guess that counts too. Forgot about it.

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  4. dylan brunswrote on March 18th, 2009 at 5:04 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    that’s awesome

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  5. J of Jwrote on December 15th, 2009 at 7:39 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    i like the kac vertion beater

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  6. komradwrote on September 03rd, 2009 at 9:52 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    I’d take a DeLisle .45 acp carbine over that thing. It was so quiet that working the bolt was loader than the gun firing.

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  7. SplitHoofwrote on July 15th, 2009 at 2:03 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Another solution to a problem that dosen’t exist. You could supress an Uzi pistol in the same caliber for a lot le$$, in a smaller package. However, the European’s are known for over-engineering everything.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  8. Nickwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:53 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    “but I can’t see an advantage over a simple bolt-action with a threaded can.”

    Are you serious? Obvious advantage: Size. A bolt gun isn’t a huge lot of good inside a building, or in a position where you’re only a few meters away from your target.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  9. kvalsethwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:31 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Or you could just do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0

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  10. James R. Rummelwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:06 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Good post.

    James

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  11. Leisureguywrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:12 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Interesting. I had always assumed that a suppressor on a revolver was a mug’s game. Not so, it seems.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  12. guywrote on March 04th, 2009 at 7:51 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Those disk shaped devices on the front of the cylinder interest me.

    Do those mate with the big cover to provide a better seal, or are they just a bearing surface to help the cylinder rotate smoothly against the tight fitting shell?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  13. Valhallawrote on March 04th, 2009 at 9:09 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    What beauty… its elegant cylinder, its sublime scope thingamajigit…

    For all the assassins, no jamming, no sound, and coming soon, no bullets.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  14. Daniel E. Watterswrote on March 04th, 2009 at 3:09 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    You need to look up the suppressed Ruger GP100 and Super Redhawk that KAC developed. The telescoped ammunition they used was a pretty clever method to seal the cylinder gap.

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  15. EmptorMavenwrote on March 04th, 2009 at 4:36 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Gees, I guess it goes to show you can engineer your way around anything, but I can’t see an advantage over a simple bolt-action with a threaded can. I mean you have to pop open two cylinder seals to reload, and all so you can get six consecutive shots of a double-action revolver trigger?

    Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
    • Steveresponded to EmptorMaven on March 04th, 2009 at 4:39 pm Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

      EmptorMaven, over a bolt action I would say it is probably shorter in length, you can fire faster (just pull the trigger, no bolt cycling). After more than a couple of shots I imagine your target(s) probably know you are about and best pull out a high capacity sub gun/pistol/rifle.

      Please rate this comment: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
  16. Alrewrote on March 04th, 2009 at 6:02 am Link To Comment | Reply To Comment

    Horrible!

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