Comments on: Hell freezes over: Russian officials allowed to carry glocks

By: alex.

alex. — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:16:12 +0000

Hell, the Bolshevik’s sure liked the Mauser 1896, enough so that one version was nicknamed the “Bolo”, so perhaps what was old is now new.

By: jdun1911

jdun1911 — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:18:15 +0000

I doubt the Russian can afford it. They are going into a depression if not already.

I don’t want to get into another ballistic debate. Done that too many times and got tried of it. There is no such thing as a one shot stop.

http://www.theshootist.net/2009/01/one-man-got-involved-perry_12.html

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/articles/lom/0412/the_peter_soulis_incident.html

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/37369379.html

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:49:17 +0000

JB, I agree. Remember that the Russians also have a long history developing arms and they have some significantly different views on what the best solution is. I think they are probably restricting it to 9mm.

Why do all governments restrict what we can and can’t own? Because they can? Probably no different for the Russians

By: JB

JB — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:45:11 +0000

Perhaps they should add the compact/subcompact versions of the three listed pistols. From CZ, the 75 compact and 2075 RAMI have a very similar manual of arms to the full-size 75. I think some of the GLOCK 17/19 parts are interchangeable, with the 26 being a changed, smaller version. (No experience with the Beretta line here.)

I’m presupposing the allowed imports are based on manufacturer and caliber, not size. There are CZ75 variants in .40S&W for instance. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear the Russian government doesn’t want to see smaller handguns or heavier calibers, despite their efficacy for certain officials, as Matt commented.

I don’t want to veer into politics here, but it’s always seemed odd to me that a government would restrict its law enforcement from having certain weapons. (They already prevent law abiding Russian civilians from owning handguns anyway.) Thanks for the news link!

By: Matt Groom

Matt Groom — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:40:37 +0000

Perhaps the Ruskies would have a more positive opinion of the 9×18 if they were allowed to use something other than FMJ ammo. I good, modern hollowpoint turns the Makarov from a pleasant plinker into a decent defense piece. While I can certainly see the advanages of a full sized, world-class pistol for Law Enforcment, the models mentioned are also much larger. Plain clothed and secret police types are all gonna be stuck with the Pistolet Makarov for a while.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:40:32 +0000

Sven, nah, that doesn’t count Russians were using German weapons and Germans were using Russian weapons.

By: Sven Ortmann

Sven Ortmann — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:38:08 +0000

Captured handguns during wartime should also be an exception.

I can’t tell whether they were used by the police, but certainly by “officials”.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:19:30 +0000

Supernaut, I stand corrected! Thanks.

By: Supernaut

Supernaut — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:18:09 +0000

Not so strange though, MVD bought tons of Glock 17, CZ75, MP5, Sako TRG and AI AWM a few years back. There are several images online of the weapons being used, for instance the AI rifles were used at Beslan. So these weapons have been used by interior forces and federal police for almost 5 years.