Comments on: Glock mounted glass breaker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ozinga http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-47877 ozinga Thu, 25 Nov 2010 04:22:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-47877 well... safety glass is pretty tough, and this is supposed to break it, right? So lets keep in mind it doesn't have to be used on glass. if you were to run out of ammo and don't have time to reload couldn't you punch it into some ones forehead, collarbone, chest plate, knee, or any other boney part of the body to achieve crippling effects??? you just gotta think out side the box. well… safety glass is pretty tough, and this is supposed to break it, right? So lets keep in mind it doesn’t have to be used on glass. if you were to run out of ammo and don’t have time to reload couldn’t you punch it into some ones forehead, collarbone, chest plate, knee, or any other boney part of the body to achieve crippling effects??? you just gotta think out side the box.

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]]> By: richie http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-19833 richie Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:00:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-19833 These things are actual designed for tactical entry. Say a entry team stacks up on a bus,the way it is done is by members of the assault team on both sides of the bus but on alternate windows(on ladders) so the is no chance of blue on blue,and front and back of the bus.Team members will enter front and back of the bus,if any of the bad guys duck down behined the seats the assaultier on that window can break the glass the take out the threat in one motion. But not that much use for anything else. These things are actual designed for tactical entry.
Say a entry team stacks up on a bus,the way it is done is by members of the assault team on both sides of the bus but on alternate windows(on ladders) so the is no chance of blue on blue,and front and back of the bus.Team members will enter front and back of the bus,if any of the bad guys duck down behined the seats the assaultier on that window can break the glass the take out the threat in one motion.

But not that much use for anything else.

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]]> By: matt http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-14013 matt Fri, 04 Sep 2009 09:32:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-14013 seriously, if you look at all the stuff this company makes (fab defense), they run about a half silly, half useful ratio. this is definitely in the useful category. and let me 'splain why.. first off, this is obviously NOT meant to be carried mounted all the time. best case scenario might be to have a lil' pouch or a duty belt loop that has a section of rail on it and keep it attached to that. that way you could have it available to use in a bad guy situation, or an emergency situation in which you need to get someone out of a burning car/house, but don't wanna point a weapon at them. second, it's pre-cocked so you don't have to exert a ton of force to get it to trigger. while there may be value to having one that you can continually just try again and again, if it don't work the first time, what's the chances of the subsequent tries working? third, handheld glass breakers are great (check out the "bust-a-cap", that thing is awesome), but if you're point-man, or first officer on scene to a situation that requires you to go in before backup arrives, being able to break glass without pulling your weapon off of the perp or the direction you know he's in or may be coming from... that's priceless. 4th, whoever said to just shoot to break the glass? i hope you aren't a cop. glass tends to deflect bullets. in fact, i've seen 9mm shot at glass at almost no angle deflect over 90 degrees without even breaking it. and, even if you get pretty clean penetration glass and water nearly ALWAYS change the trajectory of bullets. i can't think of a situation in which i would shoot glass and not give a hoot where the bullet actually went. oh, and then there's muzzle blast, and if it's dark, muzzle flash. oh and don't forget burning powder particles or glass particles shooting back at you. much less of that when you a glass breaker instead of a bullet 5th, if it isn't a glass-breaker, it won't break glass reliably. batons, pistol butts/muzzles, fists, or like someone suggested above... a knife? seriously... i'd pay money to see you try to break a window with a knife. if you go to the website of that bust-a-cap company i mentioned earlier, they have a "blooper real", if you will, of footage of cops trying to break windows and failing miserably. so.. with all that in consideration, obviously this thing has the potential to be a useful tool. best idea ever? clearly not, but potential to be mega-handy in a few different types of situations? no doubt in my mind. seriously, if you look at all the stuff this company makes (fab defense), they run about a half silly, half useful ratio. this is definitely in the useful category. and let me ‘splain why..

first off, this is obviously NOT meant to be carried mounted all the time. best case scenario might be to have a lil’ pouch or a duty belt loop that has a section of rail on it and keep it attached to that. that way you could have it available to use in a bad guy situation, or an emergency situation in which you need to get someone out of a burning car/house, but don’t wanna point a weapon at them.

second, it’s pre-cocked so you don’t have to exert a ton of force to get it to trigger. while there may be value to having one that you can continually just try again and again, if it don’t work the first time, what’s the chances of the subsequent tries working?

third, handheld glass breakers are great (check out the “bust-a-cap”, that thing is awesome), but if you’re point-man, or first officer on scene to a situation that requires you to go in before backup arrives, being able to break glass without pulling your weapon off of the perp or the direction you know he’s in or may be coming from… that’s priceless.

4th, whoever said to just shoot to break the glass? i hope you aren’t a cop. glass tends to deflect bullets. in fact, i’ve seen 9mm shot at glass at almost no angle deflect over 90 degrees without even breaking it. and, even if you get pretty clean penetration glass and water nearly ALWAYS change the trajectory of bullets. i can’t think of a situation in which i would shoot glass and not give a hoot where the bullet actually went. oh, and then there’s muzzle blast, and if it’s dark, muzzle flash. oh and don’t forget burning powder particles or glass particles shooting back at you. much less of that when you a glass breaker instead of a bullet

5th, if it isn’t a glass-breaker, it won’t break glass reliably. batons, pistol butts/muzzles, fists, or like someone suggested above… a knife? seriously… i’d pay money to see you try to break a window with a knife. if you go to the website of that bust-a-cap company i mentioned earlier, they have a “blooper real”, if you will, of footage of cops trying to break windows and failing miserably.

so.. with all that in consideration, obviously this thing has the potential to be a useful tool. best idea ever? clearly not, but potential to be mega-handy in a few different types of situations? no doubt in my mind.

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]]> By: Nomen Nescio http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6240 Nomen Nescio Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:38:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6240 putting rails on the bottom of rail-mounted gadgetry is clearly the way to go. mount up enough of these gadgets, and you'll have yourself a (perhaps slightly wobbly) vertical foregrip on your glock. putting rails on the bottom of rail-mounted gadgetry is clearly the way to go.

mount up enough of these gadgets, and you’ll have yourself a (perhaps slightly wobbly) vertical foregrip on your glock.

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]]> By: ChurchyKillerTurtle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6200 ChurchyKillerTurtle Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:16:37 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6200 @David But look, they have thoughtfully included a rail on the glass breaker so that you can hang things 1 -24 off your Glock. @David

But look, they have thoughtfully included a rail on the glass breaker so that you can hang things 1 -24 off your Glock.

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]]> By: ZerCool http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6199 ZerCool Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:56:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6199 Alternatively, go to your local home improvement/hardware store and pick up a spring-loaded centerpunch for about $6. Or the ResQMe mentioned about for $12. Either way, maintain some freakin' dignity! Alternatively, go to your local home improvement/hardware store and pick up a spring-loaded centerpunch for about $6. Or the ResQMe mentioned about for $12.

Either way, maintain some freakin’ dignity!

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]]> By: David http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6183 David Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:22:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6183 On a list of 10 of things I would hang off my glock that would be number 25. On a list of 10 of things I would hang off my glock that would be number 25.

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]]> By: Juergen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6172 Juergen Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:39:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6172 The emergency window breakers (like the ResqMe - got one of them on my keychain) actually don't have a pre-cocked spring, but rather get cocked when you push them against the glass. Once past the trigger point they get released and smash the glass. Big advantage: They are multiple use - unless something pre-cocked which would have to be re-cocked afterwards. Still, hard to see why they didn't use that principle here - using a ResqMe is a straightforward push motion, it would be EASY to do with a pistol in your hand. The emergency window breakers (like the ResqMe – got one of them on my keychain) actually don’t have a pre-cocked spring, but rather get cocked when you push them against the glass. Once past the trigger point they get released and smash the glass. Big advantage: They are multiple use – unless something pre-cocked which would have to be re-cocked afterwards.

Still, hard to see why they didn’t use that principle here – using a ResqMe is a straightforward push motion, it would be EASY to do with a pistol in your hand.

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]]> By: Concerned_Soldier http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6169 Concerned_Soldier Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:39:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6169 All great options men!! Thanks for trying to enlighten me, but I'm still not buying it. I shoot a 1911 with no P-rail!! Sorry!! V/R C_S All great options men!! Thanks for trying to enlighten me, but I’m still not buying it.

I shoot a 1911 with no P-rail!! Sorry!!

V/R

C_S

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]]> By: Hrudu http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6166 Hrudu Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:29:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6166 It becomes more and more silly everyday! It becomes more and more silly everyday!

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]]> By: Matt Groom http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6157 Matt Groom Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:26:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6157 I was under the impression that if you needed a drawn pistol to brake glass, you'd just pull the trigger.... I was under the impression that if you needed a drawn pistol to brake glass, you’d just pull the trigger….

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]]> By: Freiheit http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6152 Freiheit Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:43:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6152 "Life saving, quick and clean glass breaking" While I would appreciate people breaking my loved ones and I out of a car in an emergency, I don't know how I would feel about it if it involved having a Glock pointed at me. “Life saving, quick and clean glass breaking”

While I would appreciate people breaking my loved ones and I out of a car in an emergency, I don’t know how I would feel about it if it involved having a Glock pointed at me.

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]]> By: Sean Nack http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6148 Sean Nack Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:35:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6148 but C_S, you're just not taking in all the possibilities here; take that there glass-breaker-thingy, put it on your glock, mount your glock on that foregrip/frame situation that steve posted earlier in the week, and you will never have to fear a window pane again. or you could do that pistol-bayonet too...options, man, options. but C_S, you’re just not taking in all the possibilities here; take that there glass-breaker-thingy, put it on your glock, mount your glock on that foregrip/frame situation that steve posted earlier in the week, and you will never have to fear a window pane again. or you could do that pistol-bayonet too…options, man, options.

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]]> By: 22lr http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6147 22lr Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:03:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6147 This comes into play with entry were now it is a lot easier to break windows. From the website it looks like Israel might be using these. A lot more of a useful tool than a lot of people would think. Also only one guy on the team would need this the rest could stick on the bayonets (LOL). This comes into play with entry were now it is a lot easier to break windows. From the website it looks like Israel might be using these. A lot more of a useful tool than a lot of people would think. Also only one guy on the team would need this the rest could stick on the bayonets (LOL).

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]]> By: Concerned_Soldier http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6143 Concerned_Soldier Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:57:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6143 If you are carrying a gun, you are probably carrying a knife, why spend over $100 on something you already have a tool for. In today's economy, look for tools that do more then one thing. Adapt, improvise, overcome! Not over spend!! Tactical, not TactiCOOL!! V/R C_S If you are carrying a gun, you are probably carrying a knife, why spend over $100 on something you already have a tool for.

In today’s economy, look for tools that do more then one thing.

Adapt, improvise, overcome! Not over spend!!

Tactical, not TactiCOOL!!

V/R

C_S

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]]> By: MrSatyre http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6142 MrSatyre Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:28:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6142 Yeah, but is there a holster for that thang??? That looks like the worst kind of trouble to either draw while it's attached, or draw, then fiddle with it while you're sliding and tightening it into place. Yeah, but is there a holster for that thang??? That looks like the worst kind of trouble to either draw while it’s attached, or draw, then fiddle with it while you’re sliding and tightening it into place.

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]]> By: 22lr http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6141 22lr Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:09:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6141 I could actually see a good use for this, unlike most things that people hang off their glocks. I might just buy a separate glass punch but a good idea that actually serves a purpose. I could actually see a good use for this, unlike most things that people hang off their glocks. I might just buy a separate glass punch but a good idea that actually serves a purpose.

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]]> By: Valhalla http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/02/08/glock-mounted-glass-breaker/comment-page-1/#comment-6140 Valhalla Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:06:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=5041#comment-6140 Israeli's always make good stuff... :P Israeli’s always make good stuff… :P

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