Comments on: Scottish police hunt knife owners on internet http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TATim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-76446 TATim Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:44:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-76446 I stalk deer pretty often, not sure why you say you can't hunt. I stalk deer pretty often, not sure why you say you can’t hunt.

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]]> By: Jim http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-68712 Jim Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:29:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-68712 Uk gun laws are tough, and you will not stop the real nutter from obtaining weapons, or the drug turfwars, but they tend to go after each other with the odd hapless bystander getting in the way, but we dont have anywhere near the problems in our worst inner city hell holes Manchester, Liverpool, the worst parts of London with gun crime as they do in the States and i hate to see the amount of Guns swilling around the country as they do in the US. Its interesting that the Government has backed the home owner in defending their property, resulting in two serious incidents already, what if your a frail 50 plus lady who wants to defend her home against an intruder....38 revolver you cant get...ill take an MP7 in black please Uk gun laws are tough, and you will not stop the real nutter from obtaining weapons, or the drug turfwars, but they tend to go after each other with the odd hapless bystander getting in the way, but we dont have anywhere near the problems in our worst inner city hell holes Manchester, Liverpool, the worst parts of London with gun crime as they do in the States and i hate to see the amount of Guns swilling around the country as they do in the US. Its interesting that the Government has backed the home owner in defending their property, resulting in two serious incidents already, what if your a frail 50 plus lady who wants to defend her home against an intruder….38 revolver you cant get…ill take an MP7 in black please

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]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-65135 Mike Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:10:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-65135 Whilst I agree that since the crims can get guns- us upstanding citizens should be appropriatly equipped to deal the punks some hurt, I do see a couple of issues. One, In America and other "armed" nations there is a culture of having a firearm around- it's like alcohol, a child brought up knowing about alcohol and given mild controlled exposure to it are far less likely to become infatuated with it when they are legally able to get hold of it. In the UK, people would be polarized by the reintroduction of guns. Some would just wave 'em around and be idiots, and the rest will scream their heads off. Two, as armed as the gangs are- their weapons are sold at positivly astronomical prices. If guns were imported, the availabe arms for criminals would increase immeasurably. Both "armed" and "unarmed" nations have their problems with guns,, but knives? theyre using them cos they cant have guns, you take away knives, they'll use sharpened sticks, or rocks, or their fists (the most common murder weapon in the UK I read somewhere) their (the violent crims') armory is always stocked- ours isnt. Whilst I agree that since the crims can get guns- us upstanding citizens should be appropriatly equipped to deal the punks some hurt, I do see a couple of issues. One, In America and other “armed” nations there is a culture of having a firearm around- it’s like alcohol, a child brought up knowing about alcohol and given mild controlled exposure to it are far less likely to become infatuated with it when they are legally able to get hold of it. In the UK, people would be polarized by the reintroduction of guns. Some would just wave ‘em around and be idiots, and the rest will scream their heads off. Two, as armed as the gangs are- their weapons are sold at positivly astronomical prices. If guns were imported, the availabe arms for criminals would increase immeasurably. Both “armed” and “unarmed” nations have their problems with guns,, but knives? theyre using them cos they cant have guns, you take away knives, they’ll use sharpened sticks, or rocks, or their fists (the most common murder weapon in the UK I read somewhere) their (the violent crims’) armory is always stocked- ours isnt.

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]]> By: Nigel http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-49142 Nigel Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:31:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-49142 The United Kingdom. It's where Great Britain used to be. We now have some of the most draconian weapons laws on the face of the planet and it solves nothing. What the powers that be do not recognise is that the people who use firearms illegally do not give a damn if said firearms are held illegally. The only people penalised under these laws are legal citizens. I love my country but at the moment am quite ashamed of it. The United Kingdom. It’s where Great Britain used to be.

We now have some of the most draconian weapons laws on the face of the planet and it solves nothing.
What the powers that be do not recognise is that the people who use firearms illegally do not give a damn if said firearms are held illegally.
The only people penalised under these laws are legal citizens.
I love my country but at the moment am quite ashamed of it.

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]]> By: Fallen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-32360 Fallen Mon, 03 May 2010 10:02:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-32360 I'm Scottish and I'm pretty much ashamed of Scotland and the UK as a whole. I grew up hunting and going shooting with my father but now thanks to the overreacting goverment I'm not able to do any of these things. There are many things about this country that are spot on and so many that are so messed up it's unbelievable, no wonder so many people are emigrating from the UK. I want to live somewhere that I can have the freedom to own firearms and knives and not have to worry about prosecution. When I was 15 I was part of the Army Cadet national shooting team, now the best that I can do is to go airsofting and I know that they are trying to make the laws even tighter. This country is going to the dogs. The sooner that I can move away the better. I see things like the Magpul DVD and can't believe the freedom that some other countries have. I’m Scottish and I’m pretty much ashamed of Scotland and the UK as a whole.
I grew up hunting and going shooting with my father but now thanks to the overreacting goverment I’m not able to do any of these things.
There are many things about this country that are spot on and so many that are so messed up it’s unbelievable, no wonder so many people are emigrating from the UK.
I want to live somewhere that I can have the freedom to own firearms and knives and not have to worry about prosecution.

When I was 15 I was part of the Army Cadet national shooting team, now the best that I can do is to go airsofting and I know that they are trying to make the laws even tighter. This country is going to the dogs. The sooner that I can move away the better.

I see things like the Magpul DVD and can’t believe the freedom that some other countries have.

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]]> By: Gun Shy Tourist http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6019 Gun Shy Tourist Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:43:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-6019 You know what is ironic about this? The Scots, who have always been warriors are some of the finest SAS operators. Maybe the Brits are "cutting" of their own nose on this one. You know what is ironic about this? The Scots, who have always been warriors are some of the finest SAS operators. Maybe the Brits are “cutting” of their own nose on this one.

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]]> By: Gun Shy Tourist http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-6018 Gun Shy Tourist Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:38:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-6018 Why am I not surprised. England (British Isles), Australia, and Canada have effectively disarmed it citizens, a citizenry who once had a rich heritage of firearms ownership. As we all know, in those countries, there is still enough violent crime to go around. http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2009/02/now-that-they-have-made-you-defenseless.html Why am I not surprised. England (British Isles), Australia, and Canada have effectively disarmed it citizens, a citizenry who once had a rich heritage of firearms ownership. As we all know, in those countries, there is still enough violent crime to go around.

http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2009/02/now-that-they-have-made-you-defenseless.html

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]]> By: druid http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5876 druid Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:29:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5876 Unfortunately, I think you have only just begun to see the tip of the iceberg (probably coming up on a ban list, also...someone might get stabbed by an iceberg point). Now that the government has gotten a taste for banning things it deems "unsafe" for its citizenry, it will continue to regulate anything and everything just because it can. Yesterday it was guns, today it's knives, tomorrow it will be corkscrews, toenail clippers or embroidery scissors; all in the name of "safety" or "anti-crime" or some other reason. Even the reasons will become nebulous. Since they have the power, they don't really need reasons, so long as the people just accept it. I appreciate that you have a high regard for our situation in America, but I fear that, now, our rights may be threatened. I would like to think that we have the stones not to let that happen. But I never thought it would happen in the Britain Isles, either. I'm pretty sure your forebears wouldn't have allowed it. Unfortunately, I think you have only just begun to see the tip of the iceberg (probably coming up on a ban list, also…someone might get stabbed by an iceberg point). Now that the government has gotten a taste for banning things it deems “unsafe” for its citizenry, it will continue to regulate anything and everything just because it can. Yesterday it was guns, today it’s knives, tomorrow it will be corkscrews, toenail clippers or embroidery scissors; all in the name of “safety” or “anti-crime” or some other reason. Even the reasons will become nebulous. Since they have the power, they don’t really need reasons, so long as the people just accept it. I appreciate that you have a high regard for our situation in America, but I fear that, now, our rights may be threatened. I would like to think that we have the stones not to let that happen. But I never thought it would happen in the Britain Isles, either. I’m pretty sure your forebears wouldn’t have allowed it.

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]]> By: Phil Ward http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5828 Phil Ward Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:12:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5828 Well, there was a strong suggestion in the British Medical Journal, I believe written by a Scottish Doctor that large kitchen knives should be banned outright, because no amateur chef needed them too cook in the house... it got a bit mis-reported, and nothing seems to have come of it. So far. Well, there was a strong suggestion in the British Medical Journal, I believe written by a Scottish Doctor that large kitchen knives should be banned outright, because no amateur chef needed them too cook in the house… it got a bit mis-reported, and nothing seems to have come of it. So far.

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]]> By: darshan http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5793 darshan Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:34:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5793 Next time they are going to ban kitchen forks as well.After that pens,razor blades,drills etc. I wonder where it will stop.America is indeed fortunate in the sense that our founding fathers codified our bill of rights. Next time they are going to ban kitchen forks as well.After that pens,razor blades,drills etc. I wonder where it will stop.America is indeed fortunate in the sense that our founding fathers codified our bill of rights.

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]]> By: Jennersen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5756 Jennersen Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:51:40 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5756 I meant in America. I meant in America.

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]]> By: Sean G http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5750 Sean G Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:07:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5750 The UK are definitely headed towards the police state portrayed in Children of Men. It's when I read things like this that I sigh and say "God bless America." The UK are definitely headed towards the police state portrayed in Children of Men.

It’s when I read things like this that I sigh and say “God bless America.”

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]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5740 jdun1911 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:53:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5740 The UK are currently the laughing stock of the Western World. I would said more but I leave it at that. The UK are currently the laughing stock of the Western World. I would said more but I leave it at that.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5739 Steve Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5739 Adam, LOL! good call! Adam, LOL! good call!

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]]> By: Adam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5738 Adam Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:07 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5738 "$3 Plastic knife: Guaranteed not to offend." I'm surprised they aren't attacking those first. After all, they are obviously designed to sneak through metal detectors. You know, like Glocks. “$3 Plastic knife: Guaranteed not to offend.”

I’m surprised they aren’t attacking those first. After all, they are obviously designed to sneak through metal detectors.

You know, like Glocks.

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]]> By: Sven Ortmann http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5737 Sven Ortmann Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:23:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5737 The British had some highly publicized series of stabbing incidents among young men/school children in 2008. It's a (sadly) normal over-reaction. The British had some highly publicized series of stabbing incidents among young men/school children in 2008.
It’s a (sadly) normal over-reaction.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5719 Steve Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:45:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5719 UK firearm laws: Pump action and semi-auto rifles are only allowed in .22. Pump and semi-auto shotguns can only hold two rounds in the magazine http://www.gunrunner.cc/firearms_laws.htm UK firearm laws: Pump action and semi-auto rifles are only allowed in .22. Pump and semi-auto shotguns can only hold two rounds in the magazine

http://www.gunrunner.cc/firearms_laws.htm

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5718 Steve Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:40:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5718 Jennersen, they already did that with handguns in the UK (complete ban) and everything else is restricted. It seems the scots don't like guns either: "In Scotland, since power to legislate on firearms was reserved to the UK Parliament under the Scotland Act 1998 that re-established a Scottish Parliament, this has led to tensions between Westminster and Holyrood with the Scottish Government wanting to enact still stricter laws " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom Jennersen, they already did that with handguns in the UK (complete ban) and everything else is restricted. It seems the scots don’t like guns either:

“In Scotland, since power to legislate on firearms was reserved to the UK Parliament under the Scotland Act 1998 that re-established a Scottish Parliament, this has led to tensions between Westminster and Holyrood with the Scottish Government wanting to enact still stricter laws “

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

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]]> By: Jennersen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5717 Jennersen Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:36:52 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5717 I have yet to see what all the forums, especially knife, are saying about this one. It is only a matter of time until the pull the same thing with relation to firearms. I have yet to see what all the forums, especially knife, are saying about this one. It is only a matter of time until the pull the same thing with relation to firearms.

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]]> By: Phil Ward http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/28/scottish-police-hunt-knife-owners-on-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-5716 Phil Ward Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:33:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4849#comment-5716 I thnik I was the only person I know who saw the bad side of this. In fairness to the police, they're picking up knives from scratters who do think it's clever to use them, and a lot of those little weegies (yeah I know, wrong city) would be stabbing people with them. I'm still annoyed that a copper might turn up and ask me to turn in my perfectly legally held edged weapons. "It's dangerous!" "Yeah I know officer, that's why I bought it..." I thnik I was the only person I know who saw the bad side of this. In fairness to the police, they’re picking up knives from scratters who do think it’s clever to use them, and a lot of those little weegies (yeah I know, wrong city) would be stabbing people with them.

I’m still annoyed that a copper might turn up and ask me to turn in my perfectly legally held edged weapons.
“It’s dangerous!”
“Yeah I know officer, that’s why I bought it…”

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