Comments on: S&W M&P15 PS and PSX (piston AR-15) http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:24:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joaquin Moorhead http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-85915 Joaquin Moorhead Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:37:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-85915 I think this is a real great blog.Really looking forward to read more. Really Cool. I think this is a real great blog.Really looking forward to read more. Really Cool.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-82013 Mike Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:50:09 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-82013 I have a set of the factory PSX quad rails (made by Troy, marked Smith & Wesson M&P) that are a drop in install on your PS that I don't use anymore. If you're interested, shoot me an email (basshead87@aol.com) and I'll shoot you a price. FYI--S&W is charging $140 for them! I have a set of the factory PSX quad rails (made by Troy, marked Smith & Wesson M&P) that are a drop in install on your PS that I don’t use anymore. If you’re interested, shoot me an email (basshead87@aol.com) and I’ll shoot you a price. FYI–S&W is charging $140 for them!

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]]> By: Richy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-78431 Richy Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:12:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-78431 Are the S&W M&P 15 PS Handguards interchangeable with other handguards? I'm looking to put on a quad-rail. Any suggestions? Are the S&W M&P 15 PS Handguards interchangeable with other handguards? I’m looking to put on a quad-rail. Any suggestions?

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]]> By: 3fingas http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-39567 3fingas Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:08:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-39567 I got my M&P 15 PSX rifle several months ago. All things considered, it's a fantastic rifle. I had a couple of problems initially with the rifle (bolt-related) in which S&W fixed and returned my rifle within 10 days. They have great customer service. Since I got my rifle back from S&W, it has performed flawlessly with all sorts of ammo. To save money, I have been using Hornady TAP Training ammo (Steel cases provided by Wolf?/primer, powder, and bullet from the good ole USA). Regardless, this rifle feeds and shoots all ammo accurately (well, as accurately as I can aim). I am very pleased with the piston configuration. It makes clean-up a snap and I don't notice any appreciable difference in recoil as compared to DI AR-15s. After shooting more than 500 rounds, I haven't noticed any of the infamous "carrier tilt" associated with some piston AR-15 variants. My biggest complaint about this weapon has nothing to do with its piston design. It is trigger pull. The rifle has a very heavy trigger pull (estimate ~9 lbs.). I will probably replace the trigger at sometime. I posted a review of my weapon on another site. It has pictures of the rifle and target photos. The review contains all info good and bad. http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=64326 I think you can acquire the PSX model for around $1300. This model is competitively priced for a quality piston AR 15. Remember to include at least another $180 or so for quality BUIS (Troy, Midwest Industries, etc) in your cost calculations. Being valued minded (cheap), I picked up a UTG rear and a Magpul front sight. This combination is not ideal, but is adequate enough until I can get better sights. The gas block rail is on the same plane as the upper receiver rail, so make sure that you pick up iron front and rear sights which are designed for the same plane otherwise your sights will not line up properly. In conclusion, I am happy with my purchase. The more I shoot it, the more I like it and gain confidence in this rifle. I got my M&P 15 PSX rifle several months ago. All things considered, it’s a fantastic rifle. I had a couple of problems initially with the rifle (bolt-related) in which S&W fixed and returned my rifle within 10 days. They have great customer service.

Since I got my rifle back from S&W, it has performed flawlessly with all sorts of ammo. To save money, I have been using Hornady TAP Training ammo (Steel cases provided by Wolf?/primer, powder, and bullet from the good ole USA). Regardless, this rifle feeds and shoots all ammo accurately (well, as accurately as I can aim).

I am very pleased with the piston configuration. It makes clean-up a snap and I don’t notice any appreciable difference in recoil as compared to DI AR-15s. After shooting more than 500 rounds, I haven’t noticed any of the infamous “carrier tilt” associated with some piston AR-15 variants.

My biggest complaint about this weapon has nothing to do with its piston design. It is trigger pull. The rifle has a very heavy trigger pull (estimate ~9 lbs.). I will probably replace the trigger at sometime.

I posted a review of my weapon on another site. It has pictures of the rifle and target photos. The review contains all info good and bad.

http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=64326

I think you can acquire the PSX model for around $1300. This model is competitively priced for a quality piston AR 15. Remember to include at least another $180 or so for quality BUIS (Troy, Midwest Industries, etc) in your cost calculations. Being valued minded (cheap), I picked up a UTG rear and a Magpul front sight. This combination is not ideal, but is adequate enough until I can get better sights. The gas block rail is on the same plane as the upper receiver rail, so make sure that you pick up iron front and rear sights which are designed for the same plane otherwise your sights will not line up properly.

In conclusion, I am happy with my purchase. The more I shoot it, the more I like it and gain confidence in this rifle.

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]]> By: cory http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-31781 cory Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:14:31 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-31781 Got my PSX rifle from S&W Very nice! Thanks S&W Got my PSX rifle from S&W Very nice! Thanks S&W

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]]> By: Bill http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-30503 Bill Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:18:38 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-30503 I sent a message to Adams Arms concerning use of the CMMG .22 conversion assembly and received this reply from John in their sales and marketing group: "Yes you can use the CMMG 22 conversion on that AR. Simply remove the drive rod and turn the gas plug to the 3 o'clock or off position. Then follow CMMG's instructions. If you have any other questions feel free to call or email and we'll help anyway we can." I sent a message to Adams Arms concerning use of the CMMG .22 conversion assembly and received this reply from John in their sales and marketing group:

“Yes you can use the CMMG 22 conversion on that AR. Simply remove the drive rod and turn the gas plug to the 3 o’clock or off position. Then follow
CMMG’s instructions. If you have any other questions feel free to call or
email and we’ll help anyway we can.”

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]]> By: KJ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-29333 KJ Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:15:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-29333 You shouldn't have to remove the drive rod when using a .22lr conversion. The gas setting can be turned off on the 3 o'clock position. You shouldn’t have to remove the drive rod when using a .22lr conversion. The gas setting can be turned off on the 3 o’clock position.

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]]> By: James Northam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-23052 James Northam Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:30:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-23052 This is the Adams Arms system, it is manufactured in the S&W factory using Adams Arms blueprints and techniques. I have a S&W 5.45x39 retrofitted with a REV2 Adams Arms Piston Kit. I have a total of 4 Adams Arms Rifles, 2 of which are SBRs, I have 20K through all of these guns and the only malfunctions I have experienced were caused by ammunition, that being garbage PMC rounds I bought from Jim's Gunjobbery in Fayetteville NC. I have put Centurion, Wolf, Brown Bear, Priv, Remington, and Hornady through these systems. I have shot handloads too. They all function flawlessly. I am also in possession of GB-001A, Adams Arms first production system, so technically I am their first customer. Jason and Jim are the Best! This is the Adams Arms system, it is manufactured in the S&W factory using Adams Arms blueprints and techniques.

I have a S&W 5.45×39 retrofitted with a REV2 Adams Arms Piston Kit. I have a total of 4 Adams Arms Rifles, 2 of which are SBRs, I have 20K through all of these guns and the only malfunctions I have experienced were caused by ammunition, that being garbage PMC rounds I bought from Jim’s Gunjobbery in Fayetteville NC. I have put Centurion, Wolf, Brown Bear, Priv, Remington, and Hornady through these systems. I have shot handloads too. They all function flawlessly.
I am also in possession of GB-001A, Adams Arms first production system, so technically I am their first customer. Jason and Jim are the Best!

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]]> By: shooter http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-22665 shooter Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:05:16 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-22665 LMT makes this rifle in 6.8 full tacticle form for 1995.00. LMT makes this rifle in 6.8 full tacticle form for 1995.00.

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]]> By: cory http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-21305 cory Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:07:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-21305 The MSRP price for SKU: 811023 is $1,692.00 Thats the piston PSX AR Rifle. I know this because I am about to buy one using the military discount from Smith and Wesson which is 40% until 31 Dec 2009. If there are any retired military or active duty components out there look up this deal, or email me for more info at deadlystrategy [at] yahoo [dot] com I'll get you hooked up. don't email me unless your actually military or your wasting your time because you have to show a copy of your ID. The MSRP price for SKU: 811023 is $1,692.00 Thats the piston PSX AR Rifle. I know this because I am about to buy one using the military discount from Smith and Wesson which is 40% until 31 Dec 2009. If there are any retired military or active duty components out there look up this deal, or email me for more info at deadlystrategy [at] yahoo [dot] com I’ll get you hooked up. don’t email me unless your actually military or your wasting your time because you have to show a copy of your ID.

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]]> By: Talldog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-20400 Talldog Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:14:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-20400 Anyone have any news on availability or pricing yet? Anyone have any news on availability or pricing yet?

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]]> By: racine http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-20358 racine Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:32:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-20358 I hope they make this reasonable in price or comparable to the regular AR 15 so they sell a ton of them and blow HK out. Making them in 6.8 would be very attractive as well. I hope they make this reasonable in price or comparable to the regular AR 15 so they sell a ton of them and blow HK out. Making them in 6.8 would be very attractive as well.

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17382 Steve Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:51:10 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17382 Talldog, it will be interesting to see what the price is. Talldog, it will be interesting to see what the price is.

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]]> By: Talldog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17380 Talldog Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:27:35 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17380 No problem Steve, this looks like a nice rifle and has got some good reviews. I just wonder what the MSRP is going to be? No problem Steve, this looks like a nice rifle and has got some good reviews. I just wonder what the MSRP is going to be?

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]]> By: Steve http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17377 Steve Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:13:58 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17377 Talldog, thanks for the info. Talldog, thanks for the info.

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]]> By: Talldog http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17376 Talldog Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:00:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17376 I wasn't having any luck finding this rifle at my local gun shops, so I called S&W direct. Apparently this won't be available for sale until the end of November 2009. I wasn’t having any luck finding this rifle at my local gun shops, so I called S&W direct. Apparently this won’t be available for sale until the end of November 2009.

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]]> By: Gary Flynn http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17357 Gary Flynn Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:46:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17357 I just bought a Model M&P15OR Rifle .223 do you think S&W will sell a conversion kit, from gas to piston? I just bought a Model M&P15OR Rifle .223 do you think S&W will sell a conversion kit, from gas to piston?

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]]> By: MAJ Tony http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17341 MAJ Tony Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:19:21 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17341 Note that you will probably have to remove the op rod if you're using a 22LR conversion unit, as I'm guessing it would strike the conversion unit during firing, or even not allow it to be installed. It comes out thru the gas block, and you can replace the gas plug assy and put it in the closed position when you're using the 22LR conversion, and replace the op rod thru the gas block when done. At the very least you'll need to put the gas plug assy in the off position to prevent the op rod from striking the conversion unit. Note that you will probably have to remove the op rod if you’re using a 22LR conversion unit, as I’m guessing it would strike the conversion unit during firing, or even not allow it to be installed. It comes out thru the gas block, and you can replace the gas plug assy and put it in the closed position when you’re using the 22LR conversion, and replace the op rod thru the gas block when done. At the very least you’ll need to put the gas plug assy in the off position to prevent the op rod from striking the conversion unit.

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]]> By: MAJ Tony http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17340 MAJ Tony Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:11:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17340 Assuming that the S&W use standard BCGs like everything else, any standard blowback operated AR 22LR conversion SHOULD work, as I understand it. We've had 22LR conversion units for years. I used one in ROTC in the 90s in college. Assuming that the S&W use standard BCGs like everything else, any standard blowback operated AR 22LR conversion SHOULD work, as I understand it. We’ve had 22LR conversion units for years. I used one in ROTC in the 90s in college.

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]]> By: Bones http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/sw-mp15-ps-and-psx-piston-ar-15/comment-page-1/#comment-17302 Bones Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:22:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4702#comment-17302 Ok thanks. Is that the only company that does? Ok thanks. Is that the only company that does?

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