Comments on: Police find homemade submachine gun http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: snoopy http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-82496 snoopy Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:33:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-82496 his is definitely the BSP SMG design, i just compared them. great handwork. did it operate? im currently building one myself and want to know if it will fire in semi auto. dont want a full auto his is definitely the BSP SMG design, i just compared them. great handwork. did it operate? im currently building one myself and want to know if it will fire in semi auto. dont want a full auto

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]]> By: ronnie p. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-80286 ronnie p. Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:08:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-80286 No question about it, this is a submachine gun made after the directions that appear in P.A. Luty's "Homemade Expedient Firearms." While obviously not built exactly to his exact specifications, the overall appearance is enough to convince me that this is where they got the idea and plans to build it. No question about it, this is a submachine gun made after the directions that appear in P.A. Luty’s “Homemade Expedient Firearms.” While obviously not built exactly to his exact specifications, the overall appearance is enough to convince me that this is where they got the idea and plans to build it.

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]]> By: kris http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-73054 kris Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:34:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-73054 That is what appears to be a smith and wesson 76 or MK760 made from a kit. it is a "tube gun" cheap and easy to make. That is what appears to be a smith and wesson 76 or MK760 made from a kit. it is a “tube gun” cheap and easy to make.

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]]> By: Brady http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-59886 Brady Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:18:47 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-59886 Forsure its a bsp pipe gun PA luty published books that were for academic study but the brits threw him in jail Forsure its a bsp pipe gun PA luty published books that were for academic study but the brits threw him in jail

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]]> By: wolf http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-51211 wolf Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:32:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-51211 holy crap man thats a modded .22 lmao :P i had a buddy years ago who had one jus like it lolz :P holy crap man thats a modded .22 lmao :P i had a buddy years ago who had one jus like it lolz :P

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]]> By: Zach http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-40606 Zach Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:54:49 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-40606 yeah that's a homemade submachine gun off "expedient homemade firearms". whoever did it did a pretty good job! yeah that’s a homemade submachine gun off “expedient homemade firearms”. whoever did it did a pretty good job!

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]]> By: strapmonkey http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-39685 strapmonkey Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:38:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-39685 It is indeed a home manufactured submachine gun. It is chambered in .45 ACP or 9mm, and uses a surplus M3 "Greasegun" or Sten barrel, coupled with surplus magazines for the same. At one time, the plans were available from Paladin Press (pretty sure). A friend of mine actually built a (non-firing) prototype from the plans in the mid 1980's. He built it in shop class his Junior year in high school! The teacher had full knowledge, and approved the project on the proviso it was not, and could not be rendered, "operational" whilst on school grounds (or ever, really, as that would've been manufacture). Also, the barrel was a blank made up of steel tubing, I believe. Too, no ammunition was allowed on premise. It sounds nutso in this day and age. It was actually legal, since it was not a functioning fire arm, per se. With a few minor modifications to the manufacturing process, however, it could be made so. The example in the photo looks particularly well done. When rendered by a 17 year-old relative novice just learning the ins and outs of metal working, it's not something I would've even stood next to during live fire (let alone behind, with my finger on the trigger), had that even been possible. The trick nowadays would be finding the barrel and (to a lesser degree) magazine. Those surplus parts were relatively easy to purchase in the pre-ban era (not that they were banned, just less temporally remote at that time). It is indeed a home manufactured submachine gun. It is chambered in .45 ACP or 9mm, and uses a surplus M3 “Greasegun” or Sten barrel, coupled with surplus magazines for the same. At one time, the plans were available from Paladin Press (pretty sure).

A friend of mine actually built a (non-firing) prototype from the plans in the mid 1980′s. He built it in shop class his Junior year in high school! The teacher had full knowledge, and approved the project on the proviso it was not, and could not be rendered, “operational” whilst on school grounds (or ever, really, as that would’ve been manufacture). Also, the barrel was a blank made up of steel tubing, I believe. Too, no ammunition was allowed on premise. It sounds nutso in this day and age. It was actually legal, since it was not a functioning fire arm, per se. With a few minor modifications to the manufacturing process, however, it could be made so.

The example in the photo looks particularly well done. When rendered by a 17 year-old relative novice just learning the ins and outs of metal working, it’s not something I would’ve even stood next to during live fire (let alone behind, with my finger on the trigger), had that even been possible. The trick nowadays would be finding the barrel and (to a lesser degree) magazine. Those surplus parts were relatively easy to purchase in the pre-ban era (not that they were banned, just less temporally remote at that time).

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]]> By: Mikey http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-30591 Mikey Sun, 11 Apr 2010 19:39:18 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-30591 Fred: I suggest you look into the barrel length restrictions for shotguns in Canada a little more. You can have any length of barrel legally, as long as you bought it that way. It cannot be cut shorter than 18" if you're doing it yourself. Also the overall length must stay above 26" or you enter a whole grey area that could lead to your shotgun being classified as prohibited. Fred: I suggest you look into the barrel length restrictions for shotguns in Canada a little more. You can have any length of barrel legally, as long as you bought it that way. It cannot be cut shorter than 18″ if you’re doing it yourself. Also the overall length must stay above 26″ or you enter a whole grey area that could lead to your shotgun being classified as prohibited.

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]]> By: Sam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-23529 Sam Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:56:44 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-23529 I too thought it looked a lot like an old MP-40 from the WW2 era. It looks a bit similar to an Belgian 9mm SMG, but I'd think there are too many differences there. I believe it is actually the prototype BSP 9mm SMG, I had made one of these years ago. It and my other guns, bought and homemade, are locked in a gun safe that hasn't been opened in so long. There are plans for building them all over the internet, and they're relatively easy to put together. Here is a plan for it on Scribd.com, there are pictures close to the bottom of the document shown. I think they look very much alike, but there are a few noticeable differences. Possibly due to it being handmade and homemade. http://www.scribd.com/doc/6118520/expedient-homemade-firearms-bsp-9mm-smg-p I too thought it looked a lot like an old MP-40 from the WW2 era.
It looks a bit similar to an Belgian 9mm SMG, but I’d think there are too many differences there.

I believe it is actually the prototype BSP 9mm SMG, I had made one of these years ago. It and my other guns, bought and homemade, are locked in a gun safe that hasn’t been opened in so long.

There are plans for building them all over the internet, and they’re relatively easy to put together.

Here is a plan for it on Scribd.com, there are pictures close to the bottom of the document shown.

I think they look very much alike, but there are a few noticeable differences. Possibly due to it being handmade and homemade.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6118520/expedient-homemade-firearms-bsp-9mm-smg-p

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]]> By: jcam http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-21793 jcam Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:16:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-21793 it looks like an old M3 machine gun, you know the grease gun from WW2 it looks like an old M3 machine gun, you know the grease gun from WW2

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-18179 Mark Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:13:26 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-18179 Looks like a Portugese FBP 9mm Sub Machine Gun. Pistol Grip has been altered. They first appeared in 1948 & is fired by an open bolt. Looks like a Portugese FBP 9mm Sub Machine Gun. Pistol Grip has been altered. They first appeared in 1948 & is fired by an open bolt.

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]]> By: spudfiles http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-18161 spudfiles Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:47:34 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-18161 I stumbled on this blog recently and it's a most enjoyable read, kudos. Given your fascination with homemade guns might I recommend a visit to this forum: http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/ All homemade, no powder burners but pneumatic and gas powered, all homemade and some remarkable examples in the showcase section. I stumbled on this blog recently and it’s a most enjoyable read, kudos.

Given your fascination with homemade guns might I recommend a visit to this forum: http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/

All homemade, no powder burners but pneumatic and gas powered, all homemade and some remarkable examples in the showcase section.

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]]> By: Big Mike http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-18151 Big Mike Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:59:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-18151 Lower receiver looks like a Tippman .68 paintball gun. The upper looks like a,"grease gun", M3, mag well also. I'm a machinist, it could happen!? Maybe. Lower receiver looks like a Tippman .68 paintball gun. The upper looks like a,”grease gun”, M3, mag well also. I’m a machinist, it could happen!? Maybe.

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]]> By: frank http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-13314 frank Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:49:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-13314 This is a BSP semi-auto SMG 9mm, a homemade gun you can do yourself with some pipes. You can find the how-to guide on scribd, at http://www.scribd.com/doc/16108331/BSP-SMG-9mm-full-book . Some places they says it works, some others says it's just a prototype. For myself, if the ball is shoted and the gun break, you're in very deep shit cauz you can be seriously injured. This is a BSP semi-auto SMG 9mm, a homemade gun you can do yourself with some pipes.

You can find the how-to guide on scribd, at http://www.scribd.com/doc/16108331/BSP-SMG-9mm-full-book . Some places they says it works, some others says it’s just a prototype. For myself, if the ball is shoted and the gun break, you’re in very deep shit cauz you can be seriously injured.

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]]> By: from winnipeg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-13010 from winnipeg Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:48:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-13010 it was made by a local anarchist in winnipeg, he was making guns at home and distributing the about....., police i recall held him but didnt have enough evidence. apparently he bade the guns from ar15 and sten gun parts and machined the other parts on a mill... isnt known how many he produced it was made by a local anarchist in winnipeg, he was making guns at home and distributing the about….., police i recall held him but didnt have enough evidence. apparently he bade the guns from ar15 and sten gun parts and machined the other parts on a mill… isnt known how many he produced

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]]> By: earth http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-12342 earth Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:19:22 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-12342 greasegun greasegun

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]]> By: V.I.P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-9846 V.I.P. Sat, 23 May 2009 02:58:27 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-9846 i dont think it is homemade because the homemade ones look more simple and messy, and has little paint on it i dont think it is homemade because the homemade ones look more simple and messy, and has little paint on it

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]]> By: V.I.P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-9835 V.I.P. Fri, 22 May 2009 23:29:20 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-9835 oh yeah, do not look up on wikipedia bacuse i did and it said not found oh yeah, do not look up on wikipedia bacuse i did and it said not found

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]]> By: V.I.P. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-9834 V.I.P. Fri, 22 May 2009 23:27:32 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-9834 it is a ZAGI M91 from Cortia. It spent a hour looking for this gun. my computer will not let me do this, but plz go to google images and type up Zagi M91. Zagi M91!!!!!! it is a ZAGI M91 from Cortia. It spent a hour looking for this gun.

my computer will not let me do this, but plz go to google images and type up Zagi M91.

Zagi M91!!!!!!

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]]> By: crapsworth http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/23/police-find-homemade-submachine-gun/comment-page-1/#comment-8456 crapsworth Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:41:59 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4731#comment-8456 kind of looks like the SGN-9 in shotgun news a while back... kind of looks like the SGN-9 in shotgun news a while back…

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