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	<title>Comments on: AR-15 air gun: BF-17</title>
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		<title>By: hehitaAnnuata</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/17/ar-15-air-gun-bf-17/comment-page-1/#comment-21616</link>
		<dc:creator>hehitaAnnuata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - This is a great place

Just registered and wanted to say hello.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; This is a great place</p>
<p>Just registered and wanted to say hello.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine arrives tomorrow (12/7/09). I&#039;ll let you know what the final version looks like. If it&#039;s like the prototype I&#039;ll be sending it back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine arrives tomorrow (12/7/09). I&#8217;ll let you know what the final version looks like. If it&#8217;s like the prototype I&#8217;ll be sending it back.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the best of my knowledge, they have not shipped any to date (21 Mar 09).  They keep on having production/accuracy problems.  They are trying to remedy this, which is a very good thing to do and I commend them for it, but, when I placed my order in Dec 08 I thought they were in house ready to go for shipment.  Why would a company &quot;sell&quot; something that doesn&#039;t exist yet??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the best of my knowledge, they have not shipped any to date (21 Mar 09).  They keep on having production/accuracy problems.  They are trying to remedy this, which is a very good thing to do and I commend them for it, but, when I placed my order in Dec 08 I thought they were in house ready to go for shipment.  Why would a company &#8220;sell&#8221; something that doesn&#8217;t exist yet??????</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 06:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrStrangegun, I think it is legal but it would defiantly be classified as a firearm. It does bring up some legal issues if you planned on using it in your back yard, are using it at a airgun competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrStrangegun, I think it is legal but it would defiantly be classified as a firearm. It does bring up some legal issues if you planned on using it in your back yard, are using it at a airgun competition.</p>
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		<title>By: DrStrangegun</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrStrangegun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrmm. I wonder about the legal repercussions here. As the AR15 lower is the actual firearm, does this remain a firearm in use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrmm. I wonder about the legal repercussions here. As the AR15 lower is the actual firearm, does this remain a firearm in use?</p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, good eye!  And I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, good eye!  And I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I don&#039;t normally complain about stuff but if the guy is selling these things for $800 dollars I can&#039;t keep my mouth shut...

If you look closely at the picture you can see that  he moved the barrel up off its normal axis and to accommodate it  he had to cut open the handguard stock across the top.  

Also, note the pipe clamp at the end of the handguard stock, painted black...

The machining of the front stock and the receiver looks to have been done with a hand tool...

This has to be an early prototype at best, if not the dude is absolutely nuts.

Maybe the $1000 version has a blued pipe clamp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I don&#8217;t normally complain about stuff but if the guy is selling these things for $800 dollars I can&#8217;t keep my mouth shut&#8230;</p>
<p>If you look closely at the picture you can see that  he moved the barrel up off its normal axis and to accommodate it  he had to cut open the handguard stock across the top.  </p>
<p>Also, note the pipe clamp at the end of the handguard stock, painted black&#8230;</p>
<p>The machining of the front stock and the receiver looks to have been done with a hand tool&#8230;</p>
<p>This has to be an early prototype at best, if not the dude is absolutely nuts.</p>
<p>Maybe the $1000 version has a blued pipe clamp?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Trip!</p>
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		<title>By: Trip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Great job with all of these updates.  I don&#039;t know how you do it!  Keep &#039;em coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Great job with all of these updates.  I don&#8217;t know how you do it!  Keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
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