Comments on: Sig Sauer P238 .380 1911 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Max http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-84122 Max Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:49:24 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-84122 ¿Do you have other kinds of grips?, I seen other, like Hogue grips!... ¿Do you have other kinds of grips?, I seen other, like Hogue grips!…

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]]> By: B.Anderson http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-79645 B.Anderson Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:22:55 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-79645 My new Sig P238 Nitron finish with Siglite nightsigts is completly reliable, with the standard 6 round mag and the extended 7 round mag with finger rest, ansd functions perfectly with a full mag and one in the chamber. I am very impressed with the ease of handling and the exceptional accuracy of the little gun. It will do double duty as my primary concealed carry weapon and also as my field gun for fishing and hiking. I have carried several different Sig handguns as a deputy sheriff and while working armed security and bodyguard duty, and this little P238 is as reliable, easy to shoot and as accurate as I could ask a handgun to be. It's a typical Sig Sauer and that's about as good as it can get. I am completely pleased with the weapon. My new Sig P238 Nitron finish with Siglite nightsigts is completly reliable, with the standard 6 round mag and the extended 7 round mag with finger rest, ansd functions perfectly with a full mag and one in the chamber. I am very impressed with the ease of handling and the exceptional accuracy of the little gun. It will do double duty as my primary concealed carry weapon and also as my field gun for fishing and hiking. I have carried several different Sig handguns as a deputy sheriff and while working armed security and bodyguard duty, and this little P238 is as reliable, easy to shoot and as accurate as I could ask a handgun to be. It’s a typical Sig Sauer and that’s about as good as it can get. I am completely pleased with the weapon.

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]]> By: Donnie Hurd http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-76451 Donnie Hurd Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:23:14 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-76451 I am looking for a sight adjustment tool for a sig p238. I am looking for a sight adjustment tool for a sig p238.

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]]> By: Jason http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-72299 Jason Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:19:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-72299 I have had my P238 for about a month now. It was manufactured in July 2011 with all the Sig updates. My range time is limited, but I have about 100 problem free rounds through it so far. Not much I know, but this it turning out to be the perfect size conceal for me. It's light, and fits my med-large hands perfectly. The recoil is only moderate and I can group 4-5" at 7 yards with ease, even with a 3 shot rapid fire. That's perfectly fine for close encounters. My next unit will either be a S&W or Ruger in 38 special or 357. Those will be all the pistol I will ever need, except for maybe a Ruger 22LR for cheap target practice. Then perhaps a Remington 870 12GA, a Remington 700 30-06, and a Marlin or Henry 22LR. That sounds like a well rounded assortment. I have had my P238 for about a month now. It was manufactured in July 2011 with all the Sig updates. My range time is limited, but I have about 100 problem free rounds through it so far. Not much I know, but this it turning out to be the perfect size conceal for me. It’s light, and fits my med-large hands perfectly. The recoil is only moderate and I can group 4-5″ at 7 yards with ease, even with a 3 shot rapid fire. That’s perfectly fine for close encounters. My next unit will either be a S&W or Ruger in 38 special or 357. Those will be all the pistol I will ever need, except for maybe a Ruger 22LR for cheap target practice. Then perhaps a Remington 870 12GA, a Remington 700 30-06, and a Marlin or Henry 22LR. That sounds like a well rounded assortment.

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]]> By: michelle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-71302 michelle Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:29:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-71302 whoooohooooo!!!!!.....now i've had a reason to replace my bersa thunder 380! whoooohooooo!!!!!…..now i’ve had a reason to replace my bersa thunder 380!

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]]> By: John O'Connell http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-70750 John O'Connell Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:52:19 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-70750 Ralph.You are obviously an ignoramous,when it comes to the 380.Have not had one stoppage/missfire with my 230 or 232,I shoot at least once a month,to keep my eye in with these guns. Ralph.You are obviously an ignoramous,when it comes to the 380.Have not had one stoppage/missfire with my 230 or 232,I shoot at least once a month,to keep my eye in with these guns.

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]]> By: MoovinTarget http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-70438 MoovinTarget Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:27:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-70438 Bought a Sig P238 SAS for the wife. Fiddling with the gun it looked as if the barrel could hit the front right edge of the magazine. Sure enough, found a lot of complaints and a video of ramp and mag damage. I lowerd that edge of the mag and allowed for additional clearance. I hate plastic triggers. Call it a pet peave. I like nice smooth, crisp metal triggers. The pull on this trigger is 7-8lbs. I find myself death gripping it and lost in anticipation for the sear realease. I found an aluminum, and now a stainless steel trigger. While exercising the pistol new, I also noticed that sometimes it failed to fire. I decided to take a look behind the grip. The trigger arm sometimes drops below the edge of the sear and cannot fire. The trigger arm is free floating. It has not supprt except near the rear of the trigger guard. That seems like a disaster waiting to happen. You can reset the trigger arm by pushing up and forward on it. It makes a subtle click and then sits in the right position. You can easily push it down again whereas it will miss the sear. I decided to upgrade the trigger hoping I might find a solution to the trigger arm play. I could not remove the locking pin. It must be pressed in at the factory. I put it back together after much cursing and frustration. Replacing the sear is tedious. The mainspring housing is also plastic. You are kidding me right. Nope its plastic. Also found a SS MSH online. I put the pistol back together and the trigger arm missing the sear is worse. The ejector does not move easily. Never did. I polished the sides of the sear, ejector, and hammer hoping this would help. Nope when the trigger fires it feels better, but still misses the sear quite often. I have a new Sig, never fired, problems with mags, ejector, and trigger arm. It also has a crappy plastic trigger. I contacted a Sig gunsmith. He said do not touch it. If you do, you are screwed. Send it to Sig. So much for buying a Sig for quality assurance. Note: I bouth a Magnum Research Desert Eagle 1911C the same day. It is flawless. Easy to disassemble and reassemble. Works great. Anyone ever deal with this trigger arm missing the sear problem? Anyone ever successfully remove a trigger and reassemble it? Was it worth it. Any experience with Sig customer service? I have heard horror stories, but have not contacted them yet. Bought a Sig P238 SAS for the wife. Fiddling with the gun it looked as if the barrel could hit the front right edge of the magazine. Sure enough, found a lot of complaints and a video of ramp and mag damage. I lowerd that edge of the mag and allowed for additional clearance.

I hate plastic triggers. Call it a pet peave. I like nice smooth, crisp metal triggers. The pull on this trigger is 7-8lbs. I find myself death gripping it and lost in anticipation for the sear realease.

I found an aluminum, and now a stainless steel trigger. While exercising the pistol new, I also noticed that sometimes it failed to fire. I decided to take a look behind the grip. The trigger arm sometimes drops below the edge of the sear and cannot fire. The trigger arm is free floating. It has not supprt except near the rear of the trigger guard. That seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

You can reset the trigger arm by pushing up and forward on it. It makes a subtle click and then sits in the right position. You can easily push it down again whereas it will miss the sear.

I decided to upgrade the trigger hoping I might find a solution to the trigger arm play. I could not remove the locking pin. It must be pressed in at the factory. I put it back together after much cursing and frustration. Replacing the sear is tedious.

The mainspring housing is also plastic. You are kidding me right. Nope its plastic. Also found a SS MSH online. I put the pistol back together and the trigger arm missing the sear is worse. The ejector does not move easily. Never did. I polished the sides of the sear, ejector, and hammer hoping this would help. Nope when the trigger fires it feels better, but still misses the sear quite often.

I have a new Sig, never fired, problems with mags, ejector, and trigger arm. It also has a crappy plastic trigger.

I contacted a Sig gunsmith. He said do not touch it. If you do, you are screwed. Send it to Sig.

So much for buying a Sig for quality assurance.

Note: I bouth a Magnum Research Desert Eagle 1911C the same day. It is flawless. Easy to disassemble and reassemble. Works great.

Anyone ever deal with this trigger arm missing the sear problem? Anyone ever successfully remove a trigger and reassemble it? Was it worth it. Any experience with Sig customer service? I have heard horror stories, but have not contacted them yet.

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]]> By: ME http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-69546 ME Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:54:45 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-69546 Hey JS, I was being facetious in my comment about the .380 rounds. I think they are a very good round. I only commented because some other person had made the statement ".380" are worthless, and something along the lines of Glock 9mm being the round to use, and the only firearm to use is along the lines of a subcompact firearm. Obviously, that individual doesn't understand the concept of a p238 being a back up. I absolutely agree that shot placement has a lot to do with it. I know of a situation that took place between LEO and a perp. The LEO shot the perp three times with a 357 Mag and the perp still lived, but during the confrontation the perp got off a few rounds of .22, with one round striking the LEO under the arm, fairly close to the arm pit. The officer died within minutes. God forbid I should ever need my firearm, but if I did, my attacker will see the business end of my Kimber Ultra Carry II loaded with .45 ACP along with two additional mags and a p238 loaded with hollow points as a backup on my support side. Hey JS, I was being facetious in my comment about the .380 rounds. I think they are a very good round. I only commented because some other person had made the statement “.380″ are worthless, and something along the lines of Glock 9mm being the round to use, and the only firearm to use is along the lines of a subcompact firearm. Obviously, that individual doesn’t understand the concept of a p238 being a back up. I absolutely agree that shot placement has a lot to do with it. I know of a situation that took place between LEO and a perp. The LEO shot the perp three times with a 357 Mag and the perp still lived, but during the confrontation the perp got off a few rounds of .22, with one round striking the LEO under the arm, fairly close to the arm pit. The officer died within minutes.

God forbid I should ever need my firearm, but if I did, my attacker will see the business end of my Kimber Ultra Carry II loaded with .45 ACP along with two additional mags and a p238 loaded with hollow points as a backup on my support side.

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]]> By: JS http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-69528 JS Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:17:53 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-69528 Hey ME- if .380 is so worthless, go ahead and stand in front of one.... Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.... i suppose you are one of the 'because they dont make a .46' crowd, and anything less impinges your masculinity, right?? I love 'experts'..... On another note, i needed a new mag for my p238, the spring was set. Not happy about spending $40 to find out that SIG changed the follower and left the first owners high and dry.... Hey ME- if .380 is so worthless, go ahead and stand in front of one…. Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement…. i suppose you are one of the ‘because they dont make a .46′ crowd, and anything less impinges your masculinity, right??

I love ‘experts’…..

On another note, i needed a new mag for my p238, the spring was set. Not happy about spending $40 to find out that SIG changed the follower and left the first owners high and dry….

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]]> By: ME http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-69488 ME Sun, 14 Aug 2011 02:36:41 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-69488 .380 are worthless rounds.......You're an idiot, period!!! Not to mention "Subcompact Glock" on your ankle, again, further confirmation that you're an idiot!! .380 are worthless rounds…….You’re an idiot, period!!! Not to mention “Subcompact Glock” on your ankle, again, further confirmation that you’re an idiot!!

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]]> By: alex http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-61458 alex Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:47:11 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-61458 i have had my p238 sas for about 6 months i cary it every day in a waist band holster it is very comfortable and light. so far ive put 600 rounds through it and since it is such a fine piece i am now a surgeon at 35 feet . this gun is perfect for self defense, i sold my old cary weapon a .45 millennium pro because i couldn't put 3 mags through the Taurus with out a jam ..the sig has only been cleaned 3 times in 600 rounds and hasn't had a single problem ..in fact it seams to shoot better the more it shoots. this is amazing because most other small guns like this will be worn out by 600 shots fired. now i only have a S&W model 19 .357 and my p238 and thats all i need i recommend the sas version to any one i am 100% satisfied and that says a lot becaue the gun cost me 745$ after taxes here in miami fl i have had my p238 sas for about 6 months i cary it every day in a waist band holster it is very comfortable and light. so far ive put 600 rounds through it and since it is such a fine piece i am now a surgeon at 35 feet .

this gun is perfect for self defense, i sold my old cary weapon a .45 millennium pro because i couldn’t put 3 mags through the Taurus with out a jam ..the sig has only been cleaned 3 times in 600 rounds and hasn’t had a single problem ..in fact it seams to shoot better the more it shoots. this is amazing because most other small guns like this will be worn out by 600 shots fired.

now i only have a S&W model 19 .357 and my p238 and thats all i need

i recommend the sas version to any one i am 100% satisfied and that says a lot becaue the gun cost me 745$ after taxes here in miami fl

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]]> By: Joe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-60086 Joe Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:06:29 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-60086 oh, and this thread is about the P238, not the P232.... which was the pistol i was commenting about. oh, and this thread is about the P238, not the P232…. which was the pistol i was commenting about.

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]]> By: Joe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-60085 Joe Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:03:05 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-60085 does the above 'gunsmith' care to elaborate? ive had mine for about two years, and with the exception of replacing a weak spring, i have close to a thousand rounds through mine with no issues. carries well, shoots well and is 'combat acurate' if you're going to make statements like that, prove you have the knowledge to back them up with some details..... does the above ‘gunsmith’ care to elaborate? ive had mine for about two years, and with the exception of replacing a weak spring, i have close to a thousand rounds through mine with no issues. carries well, shoots well and is ‘combat acurate’

if you’re going to make statements like that, prove you have the knowledge to back them up with some details…..

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]]> By: gunsmith http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-60002 gunsmith Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:21:06 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-60002 The Sig Sauer P232 is the most unreliable pistol I ever worked on. The Sig Sauer P232 is the most unreliable pistol I ever worked on.

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]]> By: stottle http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-57540 stottle Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:48:13 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-57540 I have Two - P238 6 Round .380 ACP Magazine used like new.just sold my sig p238 and will sell both for $70. paid 46 for each from sig. thanks stottle1@comcast.net I have Two – P238 6 Round .380 ACP Magazine used like new.just sold my sig p238 and will sell both for $70. paid 46 for each from sig.
thanks
stottle1@comcast.net

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]]> By: Kevin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-55952 Kevin Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:42:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-55952 I bought a the Sig p238 HD all stainless a few weeks ago and put about 200 rounds (rem, win & PMC FMJ and a few Hornady CD HP) through it with only one FTE on the 3rd round of the 2nd clip. I got the Metalform 7 round magazines and they worked flawlessly except I can't put the 7th round in and load without pulling the slide back, so you can only have 6 in the magazine when carrying. The gun is very accurate, low recoil and fits well in your hand. After firing 2 clips limp wristed the gun jammed on the 4th round of each and I disassembled it and noticed the factory spring had reduced in length significantly. Don't do this! I ordered the new sig flat spring and installed it and shot about 100 rounds flawlessly. I heard this spring is more like the other sigs 229 & 239 which I have shot with no malfunctions & should last 1000-1500 rounds, I compared spring length to the other brand new flat spring and it was nearly as long, maybe 1/16 or 1/32 inches shorter. It's the best 380 I've ever shot, especially with the 7 round mag (COlt Mustang, Walther PPKS, Beretta 84 & Bersa Thunder). Get one made in the past 6mos and replace with flat recoild spring and should be ok. I bought a the Sig p238 HD all stainless a few weeks ago and put about 200 rounds (rem, win & PMC FMJ and a few Hornady CD HP) through it with only one FTE on the 3rd round of the 2nd clip. I got the Metalform 7 round magazines and they worked flawlessly except I can’t put the 7th round in and load without pulling the slide back, so you can only have 6 in the magazine when carrying. The gun is very accurate, low recoil and fits well in your hand. After firing 2 clips limp wristed the gun jammed on the 4th round of each and I disassembled it and noticed the factory spring had reduced in length significantly. Don’t do this! I ordered the new sig flat spring and installed it and shot about 100 rounds flawlessly. I heard this spring is more like the other sigs 229 & 239 which I have shot with no malfunctions & should last 1000-1500 rounds, I compared spring length to the other brand new flat spring and it was nearly as long, maybe 1/16 or 1/32 inches shorter. It’s the best 380 I’ve ever shot, especially with the 7 round mag (COlt Mustang, Walther PPKS, Beretta 84 & Bersa Thunder). Get one made in the past 6mos and replace with flat recoild spring and should be ok.

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]]> By: Kevin http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-55920 Kevin Sun, 20 Feb 2011 02:07:12 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-55920 I bought a the Sig p238 HD all stainless a few weeks ago and put about 200 rounds (rem, win & PMC FMJ and a few Hornady CD HP) through it with only one FTE on the 3rd round of the 2nd clip. I got the Metalform 7 round magazines and they worked flawlessly except I can't put the 7th round in and load without pulling the slide back, so you can only have 6 in the magazine when carrying. The gun is very accurate, low recoil and fits well in your hand. After firing 2 clips limp wristed the gun jammed on the 4th round of each and I disassembled it and noticed the factory spring had reduced in length significantly. Don't do this! I ordered the new sig flat spring and installed it and shot a few round with no issues. I hear this spring is more like the other sigs 229 & 239 which I have shot with no malfunctions & should last 1000-1500 rounds. It's the best 380 I've ever shot (COlt Mustang, Walther PPKS, Beretta 84 & Bersa Thunder). I bought a the Sig p238 HD all stainless a few weeks ago and put about 200 rounds (rem, win & PMC FMJ and a few Hornady CD HP) through it with only one FTE on the 3rd round of the 2nd clip. I got the Metalform 7 round magazines and they worked flawlessly except I can’t put the 7th round in and load without pulling the slide back, so you can only have 6 in the magazine when carrying. The gun is very accurate, low recoil and fits well in your hand. After firing 2 clips limp wristed the gun jammed on the 4th round of each and I disassembled it and noticed the factory spring had reduced in length significantly. Don’t do this! I ordered the new sig flat spring and installed it and shot a few round with no issues. I hear this spring is more like the other sigs 229 & 239 which I have shot with no malfunctions & should last 1000-1500 rounds. It’s the best 380 I’ve ever shot (COlt Mustang, Walther PPKS, Beretta 84 & Bersa Thunder).

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]]> By: David J. Holland http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-54508 David J. Holland Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:57:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-54508 Been in police service for 55 years. Find the Sig P238 reliable and easy to carry as a defensive weapon on the person. Still have my S & W snubbie on my night stand as a home defense weapon with my pump shotgun close by. Unlike the 1911 style of mode carry, round in chamber, safety on or chamber unloaded ready to be jacked, the snubbie is always ready to go and without worries of failing to fire as is the history of autos. However the P238 is plenty reliable and with its flat appearance easy to carry in your pant pocket I chose this weapon as my back-up and just plain off-duty carry weapon. Sig like Glock is hard to beat as far as reliability goes with autos. Been in police service for 55 years. Find the Sig P238 reliable and easy to carry as a defensive weapon on the person. Still have my S & W snubbie on my night stand as a home defense weapon with my pump shotgun close by. Unlike the 1911 style of mode carry, round in chamber, safety on or chamber unloaded ready to be jacked, the snubbie is always ready to go and without worries of failing to fire as is the history of autos. However the P238 is plenty reliable and with its flat appearance easy to carry in your pant pocket I chose this weapon as my back-up and just plain off-duty carry weapon. Sig like Glock is hard to beat as far as reliability goes with autos.

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]]> By: Medic121 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-53621 Medic121 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:54:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-53621 Does anyone have a link or a owners manual they would like to sell for the Sig Sauer CP1 scope that was released fall 2010? Does anyone have a link or a owners manual they would like to sell for the Sig Sauer CP1 scope that was released fall 2010?

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]]> By: David J. Holland http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/sig-sauer-p238-380-1911/comment-page-1/#comment-52417 David J. Holland Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:52:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4325#comment-52417 Reference a gun test regarding the Sig Saurer P238 in an article in the January 2011 issue of Concealed Carry Handguns by Mr. Paul Markel. Paragraph two reference "gun details" of this article is wrong and misleading. I happen to own this weapon and when Mr. Markel relates "unlike the Mi911, the manuel safety does not lock the slide in place", wrong Mr. Markel. This is a safety feature you missed on this weapon. When the hammer is down and the safety is on the slide of this weapon is locked. I would suggest that this feature exists to keep you from jacking a round in the chamberof this weapon should you have a tight holster. Once the chamber is loaded and the safety is on and the hammer is back you can work the slide to eject the chambered round should you need to. Giving my age away I entered the military police in 1954 and the M1911 was a weapon I carried for 20 plus years. The Sig 238 has a lot of features that mirrow the M1911. The M1911and the Sig 238 are fine weapons. Reference a gun test regarding the Sig Saurer P238 in an article in the January 2011 issue of Concealed Carry Handguns by Mr. Paul Markel. Paragraph two reference “gun details” of this article is wrong and misleading. I happen to own this weapon and when Mr. Markel relates “unlike the Mi911, the manuel safety does not lock the slide in place”, wrong Mr. Markel. This is a safety feature you missed on this weapon. When the hammer is down and the safety is on the slide of this weapon is locked. I would suggest that this feature exists to keep you from jacking a round in the chamberof this weapon should you have a tight holster. Once the chamber is loaded and the safety is on and the hammer is back you can work the slide to eject the chambered round should you need to. Giving my age away I entered the military police in 1954 and the M1911 was a weapon I carried for 20 plus years. The Sig 238 has a lot of features that mirrow the M1911. The M1911and the Sig 238 are fine weapons.

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