Comments on: Sig Sauer P238 .380 1911

By: bernard Freedman

bernard Freedman — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:06:42 +0000

I recently purchased p238 clip does not properly feed alot of factory ammo.
Sig has no clips to send and is rude about it.
Dont buy this garbage. Try Rohrbaugh get double action and great customer service. I waited on phone for over 20 minutes waiting for sig to answer I assure you they werent handlin g accolades

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:47:45 +0000

Just purchased one and love it. Hunting wood grip and it will be great.

By: UberPistolero

UberPistolero — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:24:48 +0000

Ahhhh yesss… the “graceful curves of the Mustang”. Thank God it was pleasant to look at, because it didn’t functioned like cr*p. I’ll take a working SIG “Lego” Clone anyday.

In fact, I had the opportunity to shoot one today, about 30 rounds, and watched another 150 go downrange with other shooters. 100% flawless operation, and WAY more accurate than the sKelTec or Little Crappy Pistol. Better trigger, real sights, and just a couple two three ounces heavier to make shooting easier. In fact, I was hitting a 10″x10″ plate at 50 yards offhand with boring regularity.

If I could only wrap my head around the idea of “cocked and locked in my pocket and pointing at my socket”, I might buy one.

By: devnull

devnull — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:53:22 +0000

Bought one yesterday and shot it today… VERY HAPPY!!! No issues at all (not a single feed, eject, or any other issue) and VERY accurate at 10yds as compared to my kel-tec. VERY HAPPY WITH THE PURCHASE!!!!

(newSIGfan)

one box at 10 yards… —> http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/devnull129/guns/IMG_0580.jpg

By: John

John — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:53:15 +0000

FYI – the Sig Sauer MSRP prices have changed since this post was published…. The new prices are on Sig’s site and you can see the MSRP for the blued model at http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=67&productid=266…

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:56:20 +0000

I bought one, kept jamming, sold it at a gun-show for the same $ I paid for it. I thought it was too unreliable to be my personal carry weapon. Good thing about it was its size, very light weight and very concealable. I just didnt need a light weight concealable rock to throw at the bad guy, when the gun decided not to cycle. I now carry the Colt Defender, right out of the box, fired like its supposed to.

By: James Lewis

James Lewis — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:49:06 +0000

Wish I had done a little reading here first, but I didn’t. Sigs new P238. I saw it, I liked it, I purchased it, I read the manual cover to cover, I held it, Got to know it well, Then set the target, Looked well around, Loaded it, Again I looked well around, Aimed it then fired it! 6 rounds all on target at 40 feet. A little loud, no real kick, I loved it! Then it happened. I reloaded the mag. Too bad only six rounds, an only 1 mag for the price. Looked around, aimed fired! BANG! then jammed…So sad. The next few rounds would not chamber smoothly. I shot 48 rounds. It is a fun gun to shoot but not happy I had a problem. Went on line to find a mandatory recall on the p238, I called the number and learned my gun was ok. (866-446-1914) s/n DA00501 to DA003216 Spoke with a tech and he is sending out a new mag. Hope that it works to gun is too cute, with the rosewood grips, to have to give it up. I’ll let you know if the mag does the trick, It is not a real gun till it shoots ALL the time. Stay safe. Jim

By: Randy

Randy — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:59:37 +0000

I commented above and had not yet fired the gun yet, that has changed.

I have now run about 500 rounds through the gun, the first time i had a few issues but they were clearly due to the fact that i did not clean and oil the gun before shooting it. We cannot assume WIT ANY MFG,, that a gun is ready out of the box, they all have to much oil on them from the factory and get dirty quickly.

Now that said, the gun has been great. No issues worth mentioning at all.

I have one more comment. – I have dealt with numerous gun mfg’s on various issues (i have many handguns), they cannot be judged by one incident, if you hapen to get the guy who’s wife filed for divorce that morning sure you are going to be disapponted, he sure was …… he didn’t file first!

Seriously, i had to call Sig for an extra screw for the grip, the call went easily, they responded immediately and sent 4 screws not 1. they were as good as you can expect. I have a feeling the guy i spoke to was not married so his personal life was stable!

To all looking at this gun, it’s pretty, it’s better than the original (I have one) and it’s a pleasure to own and to shoot.

By: Brad

Brad — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:22:56 +0000

I like the P238 but Sig has been terrible to deal with. Why do manfacturer’s just blow off their existing customers and only want to focus on the new sale? Well Sig……..I have a choice of gun brands and you just lost a very active gun collector. I won’t buy another one of your products. Buyer beware….Sig isn’t the company it used to be!!!!

By: danny

danny — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:25:11 +0000

just purchased the p238 very nice gun for conceal carryloaded with 105 hp.that should do the job .very well balanced gun.its the first sig that i owned rest of my guns ard 45 cal.

By: Bruce - Hartford

Bruce - Hartford — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:16:34 +0000

I just picked up P238 on Oct 17th for $469. I test fired the Ruger LCP, the Kahr PM9 and P380, and the Smith & Wesson 442 before deciding to purchase the P238. The P238 is the only gun in this group that was actually comfortable to shoot. The recoil is very manageable, and the gun shot very accurately. The other guns in the group all hurt my hands when fired. I decided that if I am going to carry a weapon, then I will practice with that weapon often. The difference is night and day. Today I shot it at the range, 50 FMJ and 6 JHP with no problems. I will comment further when more ammo becomes available. Right now finding ammo is my only issue with this gun. I know the P238 is slightly larger and heavier than the LCP and others, but it is still very comfortable in my pocket. The P238 is also about $170 more expensive than the LCP, but I think it is well worth it.

By: ALLEN - WILLIAMSBURG

ALLEN - WILLIAMSBURG — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:40:45 +0000

BOUGHT ONE RECENTLY. RAN 200 ROUNDS THRU IT WITH NO
PROBLEMS. SHOT BOTH FMJ AND HOLLOW POINT. ACCURATE FOR ITS SIZE. EASY TO SHOOT.
GOT THE ALL BLACK MODEL WITH “BLACKWATER” GRIPS AND “NIGHT SIGHTS” (LIKE THEM). LIGHTWEIGHT AND
EASY TO CARRY IN FRONT POCKET OF JEANS. DESANTIS MAKES
A GREAT POCKET HOLSTER FOR IT.
TO EACH HIS OWN………I’M HAPPY WITH IT & GLAD I BOUGHT IT !!!!

By: Randy

Randy — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:32:46 +0000

I purchased a two tone P238, a box of Federal Premium Personal Defense rounds and some PMC FMJ range rounds yesterday. After cleaning the Sig, found that the Federal hollow points won’t even hand cycle through the weapon. Each Federal round hung up on the barrel ramp. Had better luck with the FMJ. At this point I am questioning my reasoning for spending $600 for gun, ammo and holster that I have no confidence in. Hoping for better success at the range.

By: Rob

Rob — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:54:18 +0000

Buy the Khar P380. Match Grade Walther barrel. Dovetailed front and rear sights, less the a pound fully loaded, slide CNC machined from large bar stock. Smooooooooth double action trigger. Hits where you point it.

It does take 200 rounds or so to break it in. The Sig looks like a great compact. But like you I am not fond on cocked and locked in my pocket. However my primary is a 1911.

By: ken levy

ken levy — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:44:08 +0000

I am very interested in the Sig P 238. I do not feel comfortable with “Cocked and Locked”. I feel safer with DA/SA

I realized the safety problems have been resolved, but what do you think about this?

I am also concerned with several comments about not ejecting final round and will not accept full clip with one in chamber.

Are these isolated problems?

By: robrunwild

robrunwild — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:58:12 +0000

First to all the, thanks to the owners for the info. It is great to hear about the experiences you have had, I followed those of you that made initial and then subsequent posts. So it generated a couple of questions:

Those that initially has FTF’s or FTE’s, was this eventually resolved by ammo change, more break-in techniques or was the last resort a factory/shop visit?

Lastly, when I read “double tap” in a gun forum it speaks volumes about the knowledge of a poster. Range Rangers “double tap”, CQB/self defense experts shoot a “controlled pair”.

Robert

By: H&K

H&K — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:23:18 +0000

I purchased my sig p238 over a month ago now when I first took it out I shot remington jhp, winchester fmj, and american eagle fmj plus a clip of hydro shock. at first things went well then after a couple clips the hammer would drop and not fire. I pulled the hammer back same thing it did this repeatedly with all but the hydro shock that was my first clip. I took it home cleaned it real well ( I did this before I took it out the first time as well) and thought I would try again the next time same thing so I sent it back to sig about 10 days later I got it back (no extra clip like many are mentioning) took it out and shot some winchester fmj first 35 went well no problems after that random problems three times out of 85 total rounds failed to fire but would when the hammer was pulled back a second time, three failures to go back into full battery and twice the slide locked open when there were still bullets in the clip. I called sig got a jack ass of a customer service that told me I used the wrong lube they told me that last time. to clean I use hoppes 9 and lube used rem oil after getting it back I still used hoppes 9 but switched to CLP for lube. Not being happy with his attitude or response I called twice more to see what others would say. second one really had no answers told me that the colt had issues it was designed from but sig improved on these. I know a few that own the mustang and never heard complaints. the third guy told me the gun is built to such tight tolerances you have to put 500 rounds through it to break it in. when I got the gun back they said they had to fix the extractor and when they did put some rounds through it ( priv partizan, and american eagle) if that is the case I still need to put about another 100 rounds through it I guess. I have been a sig fan for a long time now but lately it seems their quality has gone down, I have a sig 556 holo that the sight for is worthless and I am on my third one having sig replace. I hope they arent getting gready and hoping to just make money on their name. the sig p238 is also not designed they stated to hold 6+1 but 5+1 instead and they said to have the slide open to insert a full clip I ordered 2 colt mags hoping this would solve that issue having heard success from others. If the next hundred rounds go through and I am still having issues it looks like I will have to send it back again.

By: Sampson

Sampson — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:17:02 +0000

Have had my P238 for three weeks have put 250 round down the barrel one failed to chamber. So far so good and just a plesure to shoot.

By: Michael

Michael — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:21:22 +0000

Just got my P238 today, was excited to shoot it and went straight to the range. Unfortunately it failed to chamber several times. Being a new auto, I oiled it and tried again…Same thing. Figured it was the hollow-points I was using. After the first round would fire, the rest followed suit.
Bought a box of round tips and dry cycled several mags and didnt have a problem. It is a great concealer, lightweight, slim and very tight. I was a lil leary about the 499.00 price tag, but decided to purchase on the reputation of Sig. I am hoping that after a couple hundred rounds go down the barrel it will be more reliable.
41 yr old, Oklahoma.

By: Mike Howe

Mike Howe — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:05:36 +0000

Will Sig make a longer barrel version just like the original Gov. model Colt .380. That’s what I have and I’m considering selling it with the original box and paperwork and buying 2 Sigs but I would really like to have the longer barrel of the original colt.

By: Justin Goss

Justin Goss — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:11:41 +0000

So I sent my SIG p238 in for the, “Mandatory Recall”, about 10 days later I get it back. My wife excited to go to the range and shoot her “fixed” pistol, we get there and the first clip fires all 6 round with no problems!! This is good right? I mean before it never fired a whole clip without a malfunction.
But I was wrong, We had only gotten lucky on that clip and back to the same old Schnanagins. I don’t know what else to do, I guess ill eventuly have 10 free complimentary clips from SIG by sending it back and back to them time after time. This time I don’t want it back in 10 days, I Don’t care if it takes them a whole month I Just want it Fixed. This is my wifes carry gun and If It doesn’t get fixed I will demand a full Refund and put her back in the arms of KAHR. They never let her down.

SIG “Reliability the first time, every time.” Yeah What A Line Of Shit.

By: JR

JR — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:10:32 +0000

I recieved my little beauty last week. Nitron with Rosewood grips…real sharp!

Cycled about 100 rounds through it after a light cleaning and before I hit the range. Seemed to cycle a little rough at first. After about 60 or 70 cycles (without fire) the rounds seem to feed much better. I used both American Eagle and Wincheser FMJ. The American Eagle has a round nose and the Winchester a flat nose.

At the range I shot 104 rounds. I had 2 Failures to feed early (probably in the first 40 rounds) and one failure to fire. The FTF had a good strike in the the center of the primer so I suspect it was a bad round.

This thing is truly a joy to shoot, It has such a solid but low recoil feel that makes you want to keep shooting all day! I have fairly large hands and this thing still shot like a dream for me. I can’t wait to get back to the range with it! My buddy at worked joined me and his eyes light up and he couldn’t keep the smile off his face after emptying his first mag.

I also own a P239 Elite 40 S&W with Rosewood grips which is also very enjoyable to shoot (and drives nails when I’m doing my part), but I like to shoot this little p238 beauty even more!

Sounds like there have been a few issues for others, but if you give this little piece a chance I think you’ll find something you won’t want to leave home without.

By: Randy

Randy — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:01:16 +0000

WOW – A lot of interesting opinions.

First – I just bought one of these yesterday, nitron with rosewood grips, and it is a pretty little gun.

second – I have not fired it yet, but if I had to guess (which is all I can do right now), I’d guess that in keeping with Sig’s overall quality, the gun will be a good shooter. The Mustang is a great shooter and from what I hear, the improvements make this an even better one.

I do own a colt mustang, I love it and will keep it in my collection, I like it so much that having this one as a regular carry gun made sense.

The one improvement most notable I think) may be the correction of the ejector dropping during re-assembly, I had this happen with my Colt and it was a real pain …. I understand this has been addressed by Sig.

Also – as far as knockdown power is concerned, a well placed round will do it’s job in almost any caliber, the 380 will certainly get the aggressors attention. and if you want to read up on an interesting product, try http://www.rbcd.net then read up on it, try youtube for some demonstrations. I carry this in my 9’s and 380’s.

I must admit I am not much on carrying “cocked & locked” but I will make this decision later.

I’d love to hear more directly from owners of this gun.

By: Paul Stovall

Paul Stovall — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:28:58 +0000

I posted a while ago that my SIG 238 had multiple failures to fire. It was sent back to SIG for the recall as well as the original firing issue. It was returned with an additional complimentary clip.

Neither clip would hold 6 rounds and fit properly into the pistol. Tried different ammo. No go. Took back to the gunshop I purchased from and they agreed to trade for a S&W 38 airweight revolver. The gun dealer was returning to SIG.

I am only posting this because if you have purchased this gun you really need to go shoot it to determine if its going to work for you. I hope I just had a bad gun because I am fully aware of SIGs reputation and thats why I purchased the gun in the first place. My wife loves the S&W and I will use my H&K 45.

thanks for all the additional emails folks have sent me with similar problems.

By: Ollie Gort

Ollie Gort — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:15:23 +0000

I just bought the Sig 238 a couple of weeks ago and have put 130 rounds through it on two different occasions. I had a little trouble with the first 70 rounds using JHP from walmart, it failed to feed once, stovepiped, once failed to fire twice.

I had the same problem Mr. Stovall had, the slide failed to return all the way forward and when the hamer fell the firing pin didn’t hit the primer. Called Sig and they told me to try cleaning it and use different ammo.

I bought two different types of FMJ at a gun shop took it out and fired 60 rounds and it worked perfectly. I personally like the way it looks and bought it because of Sigs reputation for quality firearms and it’s easy to conceal size.

Time will tell if it will be a good, dependable gun. I don’t think a semi-auto will ever be as dependable as a DA/SA revolver for a personal protection weapon, but they are easier to conceal.

FYI: I am 45 years old and have owned about 30 handguns, my favorite being the Magnum Research Dessert Eagle.

By: bob adkins

bob adkins — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:49:23 +0000

In 1990 I hade home invasion I shot two people with my colt mustang 380 both of the people died they were both head shots in the forhead I will never doubt this pistol or cal for this saved my life unfortuntuataly not my family

By: eric m

eric m — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:56:19 +0000

I JUST BOUGHT THE BLUE ONE TODAY. IT IS AWSOME. SHOOTS GREAT!!!! EXILENT. THIS IS A NEAT GUN.

By: PaulE

PaulE — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:24:53 +0000

I got mine after a long wait. My wife had a look at it and then made me go back and get another one for her. We are waiting on an order of 500 rounds of .380 to take to the range.I did cycle a few clips of ball ammo through the gun manually to “buff” the feed ramp. I did order some extended clips for them. I found some 7 rounders made for the Colt Mustang and they fit perfectly, making it a 7+1 and adding an extra bit of grip also. I’ll let y’all know how it goes and the range!

By: GrouchyJohn

GrouchyJohn — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:08:04 +0000

I picked up a P238 about 2 weeks ago and was initially not real thrilled. That has definitely changed. My initial problem was 1st no ammo available except for highend – real high $ – hollowpoints that didn’t want to load and 2nd the ramp wasn’t exactly what it should have been. Mail ordered 200 rounds. Fixing the 2nd problem solved the rounds hanging.

A Dremel tool, some polishing compound and that ramp went from a black surface that had very very minor milling marks to being as slick as a baby’s butt. Mine was one of the factory recalls that had just made it back to the dealer that day. Sig should have done their own polish job on the ramp………

This morning I went to the range for the first time and ran 150 FMJ rounds – 50 rounds Winchester and 100 rounds of Aguila – thru it. I had one round where the brass didn’t eject properly and one that it didn’t extract the first time but did eject when I cycled it again. Both of these were at the 150 round point and the gun was definitely dirty. I prob did a limp wrist on the 1st one that didn’t eject properly, so I’ll take the blame for that one.

Without cleaning I then ran 40 HP rounds thru it, the same ones that would not load properly the first day. NO problems. I was confident enough in the HP rounds that I loaded both mags with them before I headed home.

For a small frame weapon, my groupings were good at 25 feet, most were within 3-4 inches. Punched a frown face on the head of the silhouette that my wife said looks like me. Double taps were within 5 inches which is about as good as I do with any weapon. I fired a dozen rounds at about 75 feet and stayed within the 7 ring, at my age that is as much as I can expect with my eyesight while firing a pocket rocket.

The nay-sayers need to put one in their hand at a range before complaining. Oh, I suggest tightening the grip screws. One of mine worked its way loose and I had to hunt the screw. The other 3 were loose.

All in all, I am pleased with my new toy. Does what I want it to, and worth the money paid. I can drop it in the front pocket of most of my pants and you can’t tell its there.

By: Dave Chappel

Dave Chappel — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:11:01 +0000

Wow! So many experts. I was going to pick one of these things up. Glad I read these postings. I once made the horrible mistake of buying a 1911 platform handgun – the Kimber Custom Eclipse for over a $1,000. That thing was a piece of crap! After sending it back to Kimber twice, I dumped it at a loss. Now I see this little P238 is similar to a 1911 and the problems people are having with them sound like the same exact issues I had with that 1911 Kimber piece of crap. I will not make the same mistake twice. I am extremely happy with my little Kahr 9mm Elite 98 (MK-9). No need to downgrade to this P238. Thank you all for your comments, experiences and opinions!

By: Bret E

Bret E — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:26:21 +0000

I have been fortunate to work at a very active range in Dayton Ohio. As such I have had the opportunity to fire almost every firearm that comes through the door.

When it comes to “pocket protectors” in 380 the choices have been left between the Keltec, the Ruger LCP and then Kahr came out with theirs. They all have one very nasty habbit, they are not firearms to practice with. They HURT.

I was lucky to be the first at my range to fire the P238, and immediately purchased it and openly shared it with all who wanted a try. Its accurate, comfortable to hold and practice is a breeze. This one, though twice as expensive as the Keltek or LCP is fun to shoot, doesnt hurt the hand.

I am looking for a second one as my wife was one of those who got to try it out and staked claim to it, figures.

By: John Wiley

John Wiley — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:00:23 +0000

Got one a couple days ago. First 50 rounds were with Magtech 95 gr FMJ. At 10 yards two hand hold standing timed fire (5 shots in 10 seconds). I had a few missfires where manual cocking the hammer and refireing worked (after waiting to be sure it wasn’t a hangfire). One case failed to eject and was jammed half way out the side port but was easy/quick to clear. All 50 rounds were in the 8 or better ring of a standard pistol target. About 60% were in the black and about 20% were in the bull. I am an average shot — nothig special — so I felt that was good for the first time I used the gun and it being new. I expect I/it will improve with additional rounds. Recoil is way less than the Walther PPK it replaced — about like the Colt Agent 38 I also use as a carry gun. My belief is the gun will break in nicely and do well for me. So far I’m glad I got it and looking forward to getting it fully broken in and seeing how accurate I can become. My feeling is I will be more accurate than I was with the Walther — probably like I do with the snub nose Colt and my wife’s S&W 38 Airweight.

By: shadowwarrior

shadowwarrior — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:37:39 +0000

I got my Sig 238 two weeks ago and was promptly hit with a recall notice. Fortunately, a call into SIG revealed that my mouse gum was good to go.
A box of .380 later I was quite impressed with the little shooter. Since I carry a 9mm Springfield EMP as my primary equalizer and .45 cal Taurus 1911s when needed, I don’t have a problem with SA guns.
I practiced Condition I,II, and III presentations without too many problems, getting my thumb to memorize the location of the diminutive safety was the greatest challenge. The sights were the best of any mouse gun I have shot, including the Kahr.
All in all not a bad gun, I do like the Kahr better for pocket carry and recommend that those unpracticed in the art of Single Action play, consider the Israeli style presentation technique with this shooter. Keeping a round out of the chamber and manipulating the slide on presentation will probably keep a bullet out of your leg.
One final caveat, the gun did seem to object to hollow points for the first 25 rounds, then started cycliing fine. I imagine after about 500-1000 rounds through the gun it will hiccup no more.
I am still eyeing the KAHR 380.

By: Rob

Rob — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:35:47 +0000

I replaced my Colt Mustang Pocketlite with the Kahr P380.

I considered the Sig, however the Kahr is;

Over 1/2 ” shorter
3/8″ narrower
over 1/4 lb lighter

Smooth double action trigger. Works every time.

Nuf Said

By: JayBee

JayBee — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:18:53 +0000

I own a colt Mustang and have had it 16 years. I never had a misfire, unlike my Sig or Glocks. the P230 looks identical to the mustang and I will give it a try! I was surprised to read so many blogs that were down-grading the Sig. I shoot the Sig better than my glocks and my colt better than my Sig (p239) 40 cal. Go figure!

By: Justin Goss

Justin Goss — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:01:39 +0000

It wont help you any on your ankle holster or in your pocket if it shoots like mine right out of the box. Read my post above first before you get your hopes up!

By: SO Deputy

SO Deputy — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:24:34 +0000

I ordered one and waiting for it to come in. Bottom line…. It will be in my pocket on the left side. You try for my primary weapon and your life will cease on the spot. .380 or not… a pocket pistol is ideal for LEO back up. Every one says ankle holster and big caliber… Ever tried standing on one leg to get your ankle gun while defending your primary weapon in its holster?
Think about it!

By: Justin Goss

Justin Goss — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:31:10 +0000

I also own the new SIG p238, I wasn’t a SIG fan but my wife talked me into getting this for her to carry. I am SO upset with SIG, just as I had figured, nothing but problems. I have shot around 150 rounds through it, cleaning it constantly and re- oiling it, “but not to heavy per the manual” and have tried 3 different brands of ammo. Still the same POS as it was right out of the box.
It tends to mostly be with the last round in the clip, it leave the last fired casing in the chamber, it stove pipes the casing and or the last unfired round, and the slide won’t close all the way with the hammer cocked back pull the trigger the hammer goes forward but no fire it misses the firing pin totally. I am not going to let this slide and im not going to keep buying $30 boxes of ammo to R&D sig’s weapons that for sure. I am hoping to get reimbursed for the 150 Rds. I’ve put through it already.
SIG should give FREE lessons on how to use their pistol’s to beat someone with them due to the unreliable guns they make

By: Paul Stovall

Paul Stovall — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:48:10 +0000

Posting this to see if anyone has had the same problem i have with my new SIG P238. It fails to fire. It will fail to fire on 50% of the shots. Hammer goes down but does not contact firing pin. Pull the hammer back, pull the trigger – still does not fire. Try again and it might fire. No pattern. My son , who is a weapons expert and firing range officer could not believe it either. We used the same ammo and then tried it with his bersa – no problem. Used magtech and PMC. I returned to my dealer who sent off to SIG yesterday. I am shocked that I have had this problem and I am hoping SIG replaces the weapon with a new one that has been tested.

Has anyone else had this problem with this new 380? You can contact me at paulmstovall@bellsouth.net.

thanks

By: Randall Rogers

Randall Rogers — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:48:42 +0000

I really like looks of this new sig. I’m not really wild about the look of the grips but I’m sure that there will be some wood grips available.
I don’t feel you need to be a self proclaimed expert to understand some basic ideas about power and different size rounds. Shot placement number one most important. And being able to put that round there.
Summer time I feel the 380 a good compromise carry round. But winter time brings heavier clothing and more layers. Now I’m not ready to stand there and let someone shoot me center mass while I’m wearing my harley leather riding jacket and a heavy sweater. But If I was going to get shot at with a 380 I would really like that leather and sweater between me and that round. My grandfather was a world class gunsmith. And his learned opinion bigger was always better only problem is you can’t carry a rifle around with out making people nervous. His choice was a magnum round or a 45. Funny he never left the house without droping that 32 in his pocket. He said one thing and did another. When asked about it all he would say is that the 32 worked for him. He liked the 380 and the 9. He told me to carry what I was really good with. And learn to understand what it takes to use that round efficently and it’s limits. Where and how to use that round to its fullest. Your attitude and brains were just as improtant as the round your carrying. Sounds just like some the opinions I read here. At the moment I handle the 380 best and when I carry, the 380 is the frist thing I grab. I like my colt mustang sorry I sold it. Frist chance I get I’ll one of these new Sig p238.

By: JR

JR — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:25:38 +0000

I have got to say that this is an absolutely gorgeous weapon right there, even with the al grips.

As per the last post, I agree, 1911 style sao triggers don’t belong on pocket autos. I am of course exempting glock/xd style sao triggers, which imo suit nearly all pistols except target guns.

OTOH any 1911 would look pretty stupid, even a ‘futuristic’ 1911 like the p238, with a DA/DAO trigger.

Just my 2 cents.

Lots of SF types on here huh?

-rolls eyes-

Oh one last thing; I believe the ‘outdated’ heel mag release is well suited to mice. If not then the HK/Walther style would make a good trade-off.

By: Chris M

Chris M — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:58:39 +0000

Just hoping that the new 238 doesn’t replace the 232. I own a 232 and love it. Never any problems, and everything about it is good except for the heel magazine release.
And the 232 dead-sexy too. Now this 238 might be a great shooter, but it is UGLY. (This is coming from somebody who owns 5 Glocks) And what’s the idea of a single action on a pocket pistol?

Now if only Sig had made a 232 with a button mag release and double column magazine instead…

By: Tony Capone

Tony Capone — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:29:08 +0000

Well said Erik,My point being please don’t hope a bullet no matter the size will not go through your forhead.Then you have some moron that tells you he has had experence with every thing from a sling shot to an atomic weapon also say that it could.Play the big ticket lottery you will win the money before the bullet will bounce of your forehead. A 380 pistol is a very very good carry round.

By: Erik

Erik — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:56:00 +0000

Well said Burner, keep things in perspective and mindset and skill are the real weapon, the gun is a tool. I have to point out how preposteros it is to claim: “Hit someone there [forehead] with a pistol, any pistol – including my beloved .45 – and there is a pretty good chance they will fight back.”
Possible? Sure, anything is possible, but that is plain silly.

By: Burner

Burner — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:29:53 +0000

I spoke to a guy from a reputable gun dealer, when I was at the gun show visiting my buddy who also owns a shop, about this gun. He said he has a very long waiting list of people for the P238.

I carry a Keltec P3AT as a BUG. So far, it worked without any malfunctions even with +P Corbon ammo. I like Sigs, so I am intrigued by the P238. If it has less recoil than my P3AT, it would be something to consider.

Others have already covered the basics:
Have gun
Have reliable gun
Have mindset to use the gun
Train with the gun

And please, don’t take internet posts too seriously. Life is too short.