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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a dedicated Remington shooter, BUT, as mentioned above, the SPS line is probably being dropped because of two reasons, other than the XCR. And that is the reason for the $575 price tag;
1) the stock is absolute junk. it is plain plastic with no way to bed or free float. It is only about 1/8th inch thick in most areas.
2) They have gotten in a fix with this new X Mark Pro &quot;ADJUSTABLE&quot; trigger, that only adjusts heavier, if at all. I had one on the VTR and I even went so far as to remove the set screw completely- it gained 12 oz !
I traded the VTR in for $450+ reloading supplies. it was a tack driver, but, had to have a stock and trigger, same on the SPS.
On my new 5R Mil-Spec I ordered a Timney when I bought the rifle. But, it came with an aluminum bedded HS precision stock.
  I have been in contact with Remington about these issues, and like you said above&quot; shame on you Remington&quot;. I have been trying to get accross to them, it is not the SPS out selling the XCR- it is Ruger and Savage.
   I really like the XCR Tactical, with Bell &amp; Carlson stock, and 40X trigger, but, $1100.00 total is the best price I can get from my Non-Profit gun club - which does not charge tax !!! Then I will still have to spend $200.00 (at least) for scope mount and rings. Plus the expensive scope.
   I am really leaning to the Hawkeye Tactical, I love the Mauser type claw extractor, and two stage trigger.
   I have some questions though, how is the stock made??? Ruger`s web site gives no info at all. Is it free floated?? Is it bedded?? Can it be???
  I am also looking at the Savage Tactical, they give all kinds of detail on the stock and trigger on thier new tactical 20&quot; rifle.
  Also, can anyone help me with any accuracy info??(I exclusively handload all my .308s, the VTR loved 168gn 41.4 gns Varget, and my 5R likes 175s and 180s, both pushed by 42.2gns Varget) I have a friend who beat me to one at a local pawn shop, and it is the most accurate rifle he has ever owned, but, he has never seen a 0.20 3 shot group before, much less shot one. I am ready to spend my tax money and you Ruger guys out there need to help me make this decision.
  Thanks in advance for any info, I want this next rifle to replace my Model Seven as my primary deer rifle out to 250 yds. I use Nikon glass.


&quot;Sometimes it is not the rifle, sometimes it is not the glass, but, ALL the time it IS the shooter&quot; - Me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a dedicated Remington shooter, BUT, as mentioned above, the SPS line is probably being dropped because of two reasons, other than the XCR. And that is the reason for the $575 price tag;<br />
1) the stock is absolute junk. it is plain plastic with no way to bed or free float. It is only about 1/8th inch thick in most areas.<br />
2) They have gotten in a fix with this new X Mark Pro &#8220;ADJUSTABLE&#8221; trigger, that only adjusts heavier, if at all. I had one on the VTR and I even went so far as to remove the set screw completely- it gained 12 oz !<br />
I traded the VTR in for $450+ reloading supplies. it was a tack driver, but, had to have a stock and trigger, same on the SPS.<br />
On my new 5R Mil-Spec I ordered a Timney when I bought the rifle. But, it came with an aluminum bedded HS precision stock.<br />
  I have been in contact with Remington about these issues, and like you said above&#8221; shame on you Remington&#8221;. I have been trying to get accross to them, it is not the SPS out selling the XCR- it is Ruger and Savage.<br />
   I really like the XCR Tactical, with Bell &amp; Carlson stock, and 40X trigger, but, $1100.00 total is the best price I can get from my Non-Profit gun club &#8211; which does not charge tax !!! Then I will still have to spend $200.00 (at least) for scope mount and rings. Plus the expensive scope.<br />
   I am really leaning to the Hawkeye Tactical, I love the Mauser type claw extractor, and two stage trigger.<br />
   I have some questions though, how is the stock made??? Ruger`s web site gives no info at all. Is it free floated?? Is it bedded?? Can it be???<br />
  I am also looking at the Savage Tactical, they give all kinds of detail on the stock and trigger on thier new tactical 20&#8243; rifle.<br />
  Also, can anyone help me with any accuracy info??(I exclusively handload all my .308s, the VTR loved 168gn 41.4 gns Varget, and my 5R likes 175s and 180s, both pushed by 42.2gns Varget) I have a friend who beat me to one at a local pawn shop, and it is the most accurate rifle he has ever owned, but, he has never seen a 0.20 3 shot group before, much less shot one. I am ready to spend my tax money and you Ruger guys out there need to help me make this decision.<br />
  Thanks in advance for any info, I want this next rifle to replace my Model Seven as my primary deer rifle out to 250 yds. I use Nikon glass.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes it is not the rifle, sometimes it is not the glass, but, ALL the time it IS the shooter&#8221; &#8211; Me</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-tactical/comment-page-1/#comment-17458</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought one a couple months back and love it ive only put about 20 rounds through it but its a shooter love the trigger. I put the burris fullfield 2  4.5 x14x42 scope on it and im very pleased with the combo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought one a couple months back and love it ive only put about 20 rounds through it but its a shooter love the trigger. I put the burris fullfield 2  4.5 x14x42 scope on it and im very pleased with the combo.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Faris</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Faris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like a sweet gun, exactly what I&#039;ve been looking for......except for the calibers :(

Too bad Ruger hasn&#039;t jumped on the WSM wagon yet, I&#039;d love to get one of these in 7mm WSM or even .300 WSM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a sweet gun, exactly what I&#8217;ve been looking for&#8230;&#8230;except for the calibers <img src='http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Too bad Ruger hasn&#8217;t jumped on the WSM wagon yet, I&#8217;d love to get one of these in 7mm WSM or even .300 WSM.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Coleridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Coleridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have not shot one yet, but saw one at a store and it is on my list to get, the only thing left to get is a scope and it will be better than a 700 with a shorter barrel and you could probably nail a deer with it, shot placement.  Mine will be a .308 for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have not shot one yet, but saw one at a store and it is on my list to get, the only thing left to get is a scope and it will be better than a 700 with a shorter barrel and you could probably nail a deer with it, shot placement.  Mine will be a .308 for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Magoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome! To be clear though, they&#039;ve copied Remington&#039;s 700 SPS Tactical rifle setup. I have one of those in .223 and it shoots incredibly tight. The problem is, Remington announced they were going to drop the sale of their SPS tactical just recently. The reasoning behind this is simple - at $575, it&#039;s outselling their XCR rifles at $1075.

What I see with this new Ruger are some clear advantages:

- The Hogue overmolded stock is extremely popular, but not available on the XCR.

- The SPS Tactical on had one post in the front as opposed to two on the Ruger.

- Added Bipod on the Ruger.

- Added two stage trigger on the Ruger.

- The SPS Tactical only came in .308 and .223 calibers. The Ruger also comes in .243, which will go well with varmiters.


I bet this Rifle will sell very well! Shame on you Remington for dropping the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome! To be clear though, they&#8217;ve copied Remington&#8217;s 700 SPS Tactical rifle setup. I have one of those in .223 and it shoots incredibly tight. The problem is, Remington announced they were going to drop the sale of their SPS tactical just recently. The reasoning behind this is simple &#8211; at $575, it&#8217;s outselling their XCR rifles at $1075.</p>
<p>What I see with this new Ruger are some clear advantages:</p>
<p>- The Hogue overmolded stock is extremely popular, but not available on the XCR.</p>
<p>- The SPS Tactical on had one post in the front as opposed to two on the Ruger.</p>
<p>- Added Bipod on the Ruger.</p>
<p>- Added two stage trigger on the Ruger.</p>
<p>- The SPS Tactical only came in .308 and .223 calibers. The Ruger also comes in .243, which will go well with varmiters.</p>
<p>I bet this Rifle will sell very well! Shame on you Remington for dropping the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The M77 Tactical Rifle, All I can say is WOW!!
   I would love to have one, in .308 I bet its a tack driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The M77 Tactical Rifle, All I can say is WOW!!<br />
   I would love to have one, in .308 I bet its a tack driver.</p>
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