Comments on: Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact Rifles / Carbines http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/ Firearms not Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:19:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mack Missiletoe http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-73753 Mack Missiletoe Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:48:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-73753 Richard: Shame on you for losing your magazines :D There is nothing wrong with a Ruger M77 Compact--I'd put some iron sights on it though. I want a Ruger M77 Standard or Compact in addition to my Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle (aka RGSR & GSR). Richard, please do your research before you start bashing something you only saw a picture on the internet. And welcome to my party :) [Ruger GSR] "blah blah blah...in which case it becomes unreliable as it’s not designed to have rounds fed directly into the chamber" --You CAN load a round in the Ruger GSR chamber. Ruger recommends this in their instructions. I've done it. Works fine :) "– it’s also too heavy for utility use once you add a loaded steel mag, sling, scope and rings." If a 7.0 lb full-power rifle (before scope, rings, etc.) is too heavy, good luck with life. All us other men are shooting full power rifles. "All the No.5 needs is a bit of weight trimmed off it and a forward mounted scope mount to make it a true scout rifle." Have fun with that... (!) I am sure there is much joy to be had adding a forward scope mount on a No.5, which IS NOT A SCOUT RIFLE without modification. Any modern rifle uses magazines these days. That's what I like about my GSR. It's modern. Now--I like WWII rifles, but the RGSR is a modern civilian interpretation of a WWII Battle Carbine imo. It seems battle-worthy yet has class. The Ruger is a fine rifle. Go shoot one yourself. It's not perfect, but it's great. It has more features than a Ruger Compact, therefore it costs more. Yes. Of Course. Want a suppressor? Done. 10 rounds? Done. Iron sights? Forward Scope Mount? Awesome trigger? Beast of a rifle? Done. The Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle is DONE out of the box. And it's more than just a utility rifle. Remember it will last you a lifetime if you keep it oily and take good care of it :D The only things I'd change is a thinner front sight post for finer aiming, a 17" barrel instead of 16.5" to keep it at 40" overall maximum length, and MilSpec. -M Richard:

Shame on you for losing your magazines :D

There is nothing wrong with a Ruger M77 Compact–I’d put some iron sights on it though. I want a Ruger M77 Standard or Compact in addition to my Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle (aka RGSR & GSR).

Richard, please do your research before you start bashing something you only saw a picture on the internet. And welcome to my party :)

[Ruger GSR] “blah blah blah…in which case it becomes unreliable as it’s not designed to have rounds fed directly into the chamber”

–You CAN load a round in the Ruger GSR chamber. Ruger recommends this in their instructions. I’ve done it. Works fine :)

“– it’s also too heavy for utility use once you add a loaded steel mag, sling, scope and rings.”

If a 7.0 lb full-power rifle (before scope, rings, etc.) is too heavy, good luck with life. All us other men are shooting full power rifles.

“All the No.5 needs is a bit of weight trimmed off it and a forward mounted scope mount to make it a true scout rifle.”

Have fun with that… (!) I am sure there is much joy to be had adding a forward scope mount on a No.5, which IS NOT A SCOUT RIFLE without modification.

Any modern rifle uses magazines these days. That’s what I like about my GSR. It’s modern. Now–I like WWII rifles, but the RGSR is a modern civilian interpretation of a WWII Battle Carbine imo. It seems battle-worthy yet has class.

The Ruger is a fine rifle. Go shoot one yourself. It’s not perfect, but it’s great. It has more features than a Ruger Compact, therefore it costs more. Yes. Of Course. Want a suppressor? Done. 10 rounds? Done. Iron sights? Forward Scope Mount? Awesome trigger? Beast of a rifle? Done.

The Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle is DONE out of the box. And it’s more than just a utility rifle. Remember it will last you a lifetime if you keep it oily and take good care of it :D

The only things I’d change is a thinner front sight post for finer aiming, a 17″ barrel instead of 16.5″ to keep it at 40″ overall maximum length, and MilSpec.

-M

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]]> By: Richard http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-65106 Richard Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:31:42 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-65106 The Compact is a far better utility rifle than the new Gunsite model with its ridiculous magazines that are easily lost or damaged, in which case it becomes unreliable as it's not designed to have rounds fed directly into the chamber thanks to its Mauser type extractor - it's also too heavy for utility use once you add a loaded steel mag, sling, scope and rings. Just fit a decent recoil pad like a Pachmayr Decelerator and back up iron sights to a .308W chambered Compact, along with a light scope like the Leupold 2.5x FXII in low Warne QD rings, and you have a fantastic general purpose rifle you can take anywere and will take down elephants with a 220g round nose solid (150g Barnes TSX for everything else). Anyone who wants a true scout rifle that is well suited to hunting and defensive use should look at a Lee-Enfield No.5 'Jungle Carbine'. Same weight as Ruger's Gunsite but a 10-shot mag as compact as the Gunsite's 5-shot mag, stripper clip loading, will accept rounds loaded directly into the chamber, and is an immensely reliable and durable design. All the No.5 needs is a bit of weight trimmed off it and a forward mounted scope mount to make it a true scout rifle, though in my experience forward mounted scopes spoil the balance/handling so I would only mount a small reflex sight forward of the receiver like a Burris FastFire II (which is all you need most of the time). The Compact is a far better utility rifle than the new Gunsite model with its ridiculous magazines that are easily lost or damaged, in which case it becomes unreliable as it’s not designed to have rounds fed directly into the chamber thanks to its Mauser type extractor – it’s also too heavy for utility use once you add a loaded steel mag, sling, scope and rings.

Just fit a decent recoil pad like a Pachmayr Decelerator and back up iron sights to a .308W chambered Compact, along with a light scope like the Leupold 2.5x FXII in low Warne QD rings, and you have a fantastic general purpose rifle you can take anywere and will take down elephants with a 220g round nose solid (150g Barnes TSX for everything else).

Anyone who wants a true scout rifle that is well suited to hunting and defensive use should look at a Lee-Enfield No.5 ‘Jungle Carbine’. Same weight as Ruger’s Gunsite but a 10-shot mag as compact as the Gunsite’s 5-shot mag, stripper clip loading, will accept rounds loaded directly into the chamber, and is an immensely reliable and durable design.

All the No.5 needs is a bit of weight trimmed off it and a forward mounted scope mount to make it a true scout rifle, though in my experience forward mounted scopes spoil the balance/handling so I would only mount a small reflex sight forward of the receiver like a Burris FastFire II (which is all you need most of the time).

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]]> By: Wt444 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-47915 Wt444 Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:47:00 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-47915 .308 Compact Laminate. Booyahh! Forget the Weaver scope mounts. The Ruger mounts are priceless, sight in efortlessly. Leoupold 2-7 x 33 is the scope I used and has plenty of room and looks great especially in silver with the stainless barrel .308 Compact Laminate. Booyahh! Forget the Weaver scope mounts. The Ruger mounts are priceless, sight in efortlessly. Leoupold 2-7 x 33 is the scope I used and has plenty of room and looks great especially in silver with the stainless barrel

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]]> By: Bill http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-45452 Bill Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:33:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-45452 The compacts are amazing. I now have 4 of them. 243, 260, 6.8 and 308. If you look hard at specs, you can find scopes with shorter eye relief then mount as far forward as possible. This eliminates moving your head back to get a full scope. Recoil can be a little harsh so I use lighter bullets. I've killed deer with all but the 260 which I bought recently. The compacts are amazing. I now have 4 of them. 243, 260, 6.8 and 308. If you look hard at specs, you can find scopes with shorter eye relief then mount as far forward as possible. This eliminates moving your head back to get a full scope.

Recoil can be a little harsh so I use lighter bullets. I’ve killed deer with all but the 260 which I bought recently.

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]]> By: Ben http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-42370 Ben Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:10:54 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-42370 Not that I'm aware of. They only use the scope rings of Ruger. Not that I’m aware of. They only use the scope rings of Ruger.

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]]> By: charles222 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-42355 charles222 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:24:03 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-42355 The .308 version won't see a serious power loss out of a 16-inch barrel, either. I'd get that before even thinking about 7.62x39 or 6.8. The .308 version won’t see a serious power loss out of a 16-inch barrel, either. I’d get that before even thinking about 7.62×39 or 6.8.

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]]> By: Lynn http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-40550 Lynn Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:15:56 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-40550 I am looking for a weaver-style mount to go on the m77 compact that I bought. Does anyone make one? I am looking for a weaver-style mount to go on the m77 compact that I bought. Does anyone make one?

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]]> By: Ben http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-33019 Ben Sat, 08 May 2010 16:38:17 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-33019 You can mount a scope in the same position on these rifles as is the case with the other standard length M-77s. Ruger does not advise doing this because of the recoil of this rifle which is supposed to be a little bit more than a standard length (22 inches) model. I have one and I've noticed that it's blast seems to be bigger and louder also. You can mount a scope in the same position on these rifles as is the case with the other standard length M-77s. Ruger does not advise doing this because of the recoil of this rifle which is supposed to be a little bit more than a standard length (22 inches) model. I have one and I’ve noticed that it’s blast seems to be bigger and louder also.

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]]> By: Ron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-29016 Ron Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:50:33 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-29016 Kicks about like a .410 shotgun and is totally managable for a child. Kicks about like a .410 shotgun and is totally managable for a child.

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]]> By: grey tucker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-28943 grey tucker Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:32:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-28943 yea if u dont leave ur gun in da rain and oil it down and make sure u clean the chamber it wont rust . i have a 22 speedster and a 22 golden boy . they are mighty fine gun's but u gotta clean'em every once in a while. now can anyone tell me if this m77 ruger kicks harder than a 243 cause i miight get one for my son he is only 7 so i need to no if it kics harder than a 243 yea if u dont leave ur gun in da rain and oil it down and make sure u clean the chamber it wont rust . i have a 22 speedster and a 22 golden boy . they are mighty fine gun’s but u gotta clean’em every once in a while. now can anyone tell me if this m77 ruger kicks harder than a 243 cause i miight get one for my son he is only 7 so i need to no if it kics harder than a 243

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]]> By: grey tucker http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-28942 grey tucker Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:26:46 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-28942 i wanta no if this thing kicks harder than a 243 ???????????? can someone tell mme plz . i wanta no if this thing kicks harder than a 243 ???????????? can someone tell mme plz .

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]]> By: iMick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-28619 iMick Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:59:15 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-28619 Has anyone shot wolf ammo through their Ruger compact yet? Has anyone shot wolf ammo through their Ruger compact yet?

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]]> By: Ron http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-22724 Ron Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:13:04 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-22724 If you take care of your guns, NONE of the will rust. If you take care of your guns, NONE of the will rust.

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]]> By: tyler http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-20496 tyler Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:58:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-20496 amazing gun bought 243 model only problem with gun is no clip and system on it is hard to use when hands are cold and with gloves on ruger needs to switch over to clips. amazing gun bought 243 model only problem with gun is no clip and system on it is hard to use when hands are cold and with gloves on ruger needs to switch over to clips.

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]]> By: miles http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-20167 miles Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:00:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-20167 bought this gun for 300 bucks off a guy with not one bullet threw it.almost a week later the third shot(first two to sight it in) i killed my first buck with it.when u go to eject the casing it doesnt hold it and it leaves it in the chamber so u have to "dump" it.i was very pleased but for a gun that expensive brand new out of a shop for like 700 or 800 dollars it shouldnt get covered in rust....wich it did like 2 weeks later...i have the 7mm-08 and it defantly doesnt lack nock down power. bought this gun for 300 bucks off a guy with not one bullet threw it.almost a week later the third shot(first two to sight it in) i killed my first buck with it.when u go to eject the casing it doesnt hold it and it leaves it in the chamber so u have to “dump” it.i was very pleased but for a gun that expensive brand new out of a shop for like 700 or 800 dollars it shouldnt get covered in rust….wich it did like 2 weeks later…i have the 7mm-08 and it defantly doesnt lack nock down power.

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]]> By: Angelo Deligiannakis http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-18773 Angelo Deligiannakis Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:44:57 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-18773 I got a month ago a .308 stainless topped it with a 2.5-10x56 Weaver dot and dropped my first 110 pound boar, 150 yard perfect shot. That was Hungarian, full moon night, stand hunting. Used 180gr Lapua, 1.8 inch group at 100m. Haven't worked on loads yet, but I believe it is an awesome little gun to 200m. Easy to carry and move around on a stand or stalking in brush. Gun is short but lenght of pull is OK with the huge scope ( need the X56 and Dot for low light). Going back next full moon... I got a month ago a .308 stainless topped it with a 2.5-10×56 Weaver dot and dropped my first 110 pound boar, 150 yard perfect shot.
That was Hungarian, full moon night, stand hunting.
Used 180gr Lapua, 1.8 inch group at 100m.
Haven’t worked on loads yet, but I believe it is an awesome little gun to 200m. Easy to carry and move around on a stand or stalking in brush.
Gun is short but lenght of pull is OK with the huge scope ( need the X56 and Dot for low light).
Going back next full moon…

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]]> By: Allen http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-13231 Allen Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:27:08 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-13231 I've been looking for one of these Hawkeye compacts in 6.8 SPC for the past month or so. I was unaware that the Hawkeye chambered in 6.8 SPC was available in stainless. Just as soon as I can find one I'm buying it. It will make a perfect addition to my AR in 6.8. For everyone interested in the Hawkeye chambered in 7.62X39, do a little research before buying. Sure, 7.62X39 ammo is cheap, but it's becoming more and more expensive. The military surplus stuff is not much less than .223/5.56 surplus. And of course with just about anything that is cheap, quality is secondary. Ballistically the 7.62X39 is extremely similar to the 30/30 Winchester. I deem both rounds as 'pumpkin lobbers'. The 6.8 SPC, in my opinion, is the intermediate cartridge of intermediate cartridges. With a 16" barreled AR, it will drive a 110 gr Hornady V Max @ 2600fps from the muzzle. With a 200 yard zero, I'm 2 inches high at 100 yards, and 9 inches low at 300 yards. The kinetic energy of the 6.8 SPC is mind blowing for such a small cartridge, 1,000 ft/lbs @ 300 yards. The down side , of course, is availabilty and cost of ammo. I’ve been looking for one of these Hawkeye compacts in 6.8 SPC for the past month or so. I was unaware that the Hawkeye chambered in 6.8 SPC
was available in stainless. Just as soon as I can find one I’m buying it. It will make a perfect addition to my AR in 6.8.
For everyone interested in the Hawkeye chambered in 7.62X39, do a little research before buying. Sure, 7.62X39 ammo is cheap, but it’s becoming more and more expensive. The military surplus stuff is not much less than .223/5.56 surplus. And of course with just about anything that is cheap, quality is secondary. Ballistically the 7.62X39 is extremely similar to the 30/30 Winchester. I deem both rounds as ‘pumpkin lobbers’.
The 6.8 SPC, in my opinion, is the intermediate cartridge of intermediate cartridges. With a 16″ barreled AR, it will drive a 110 gr Hornady V Max @ 2600fps from the muzzle. With a 200 yard zero, I’m 2 inches high at 100 yards, and 9 inches low at 300 yards. The kinetic energy of the 6.8 SPC is mind blowing for such a small cartridge, 1,000 ft/lbs @ 300 yards. The down side , of course, is availabilty and cost of ammo.

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]]> By: iMick http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-12891 iMick Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:30:39 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-12891 Is the ruger barrel .310/11 or .308? I own a AIA B10 carbine which is great but way to heavy. Ruger has just released these rifles down under last month. Is the ruger barrel .310/11 or .308? I own a AIA B10 carbine which is great but way to heavy. Ruger has just released these rifles down under last month.

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]]> By: Daniel E. Watters http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-12862 Daniel E. Watters Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:32:02 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-12862 FWIW: This isn't the first time that Ruger made a Model 77 in 7.62x39mm. Back around the early 1990s, they cranked out a batch with those nasty synthetic stocks they were flogging at the time. FWIW: This isn’t the first time that Ruger made a Model 77 in 7.62x39mm. Back around the early 1990s, they cranked out a batch with those nasty synthetic stocks they were flogging at the time.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/15/ruger-m77-hawkeye-compact-rifles-carbines/comment-page-1/#comment-12254 Michael Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:40:23 +0000 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?p=4309#comment-12254 Got the M77 Hawkeye Compact matte stainless in .308 about two months ago. Mounted with a 4X Nikon Prostaff this is fast becoming my favorite rifle to tote with me everywhere. My M77 7x57 is getting far less use these days. Now the only problem is finding enough reloading components to work up my best loads. So far I've been very pleased using BL-C(2), no surprise there, and Win 748. Got the M77 Hawkeye Compact matte stainless in .308 about two months ago. Mounted with a 4X Nikon Prostaff this is fast becoming my favorite rifle to tote with me everywhere. My M77 7×57 is getting far less use these days. Now the only problem is finding enough reloading components to work up my best loads. So far I’ve been very pleased using BL-C(2), no surprise there, and Win 748.

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