Ruger LCR: New .38 Special revolver

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Following on from the success of the Ruger LCP, Ruger have unveiled the Ruger LCR (Light Weight Compact Revolver). What sets it apart from other compact revolvers is that polymers have been used as much as possible. The Ruger LCR will be available 1st March 2009

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Ruger LCR. Click to expand.

The revolver features:

* Double Action
* Polymer fire-control housing
* Aluminum frame with black “synergistic” hard coating
* Fluted stainless steel cylinder, lightweight and compact.
* 5 Rounds in the cylinder
* Replaceable front sight.U-notch rear sight.
* The fire control system has been designed with a friction reducing cam that allows a very smooth trigger pull.
* The internal lock has been designed so it will not interfere with the fire control components.

The Specs:

Caliber: .38 SPL+P
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Finish: Matte Black/Target Grey
Grip: Hogue Tamer w/ Sorborthane Insert
Barrel Length: 1.875″
Groove: 6
Twist: 1:16″ RH
Overall Length: 6.50″
Weight: 13.5 oz.
Front Sight(s): Replaceable, Pinned Ramp Front
Rear Sight(s): Integral U-Notch

The standard model has a recommended retail price of $525.

Ruger are also simultaneously releasing a model with Crimson Trace Lasergrips. It has MSRP of $792.

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Ruger LCR-LG. Click to expand

GunBlast have already reviewed the LCR and were impressed (thanks to cmblake6 for the link):

The trigger pull on the LCR is very smooth, and very light for a pocket revolver. Many pocket revolvers have dreadful trigger pulls, and I get a lot of email from readers who buy a gun for defense, and have a very hard time pulling the trigger. If the production LCRs are like the one that I shot, the trigger pull problem is solved. That gun had what could be called a perfect trigger pull for a pocket revolver; a smooth and light double action. I do not know the pull weight of the LCR, but will measure such things when a production gun arrives.

I will update this post as more information arrives.

UPDATE: More info from Ruger

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Friction Reducing Cam. Patent pending.

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Fire Control Housing. Patent Pending.

There are a total of three new pending patents. Not bad for a wheel gun!

UPDATE: Holster compatibility:

* Blackhawk Inside Pocket – Size 4
* Black Hawk Inside Pant – Size 0
* Fobus TA85 (Standard)
* Fobus RU101 (Evolution)
* Uncle Mike’s Inside Pant – Size 0

UPDATE: The Ruger LCR will be available 1st March 2009

UPDATE: A video

The press release is after the jump.
The full press release

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE-RGR) is pleased to announce the new Ruger Lightweight Compact Revolver (LCR), an evolution in revolver design. The 13.5 ounce, small frame, 5-shot LCR has three main components: a polymer fire control housing, an aircraft quality aluminum monolithic frame, and an extensively fluted stainless steel cylinder. The Ruger LCR represents one of the most significant new revolver designs in over a century, with three patent applications pending.

The LCR’s lightweight, chemical-resistant polymer fire control housing contains the entire fire control mechanism. Because the fire control components are located within this single housing, their dimensional relationship can be held much more closely than if divided between traditional grip frames and cylinder frames. The end result is that the fire control components are assembled with no hand fitting, resulting in a highly consistent product at an affordable price.

The long-fiber, glass-filled polymer fire control housing provides a reduction in perceived recoil. The fire control housing’s grip peg allows for a variety of grips to be installed, and the LCR’s standard Hogue® Tamer™ grip with Sorbothane® insert reduces perceived recoil even further. A joint effort with Hogue, the LCR’s standard grip was designed using US military anthropomorphic data on hand shape, so the LCR can be comfortably held by a broad spectrum of hand sizes. An available Crimson Trace® Lasergrip® offers the advantages of a laser sighting system.

The LCR’s monolithic frame is an aerospace grade, 7000 series aluminum forging treated with a black synergistic hard coat that is applied after machining. Successfully tested with over 30 different aggressive chemicals, this synergistic hard coat exceeds mil-spec salt spray tests, and offers performance considerably greater than hard coat anodizing. The monolithic frame provides sturdy, rigid support for the cylinder and the barrel. The 1-7/8″ long barrel, with a 1:16 twist, is made of 17-4 PH aerospace grade stainless steel, chosen for its strength and dimensional stability during machining and heat treatment.

The extensively fluted 400 series stainless steel cylinder is lightweight and compact, measuring only 1.283″ in diameter in the chamber area. Treated to an advanced form of Ruger’s Target Grey® finish, this stainless steel cylinder is strong, durable and designed to handle .38 Special +P loads. The Ruger LCR’s patent pending cylinder front latching system uses titanium components, optimized spring tension, and enhanced lockup geometry to ensure that the LCR’s cylinder stays locked in place during firing.

The LCR’s double-action-only trigger pull is uniquely engineered to minimize friction between the fire control components. This friction-reducing cam fire control system results in a non-stacking, smooth trigger pull. The LCR’s trigger pull force builds more gradually, and peaks later in the trigger stroke, resulting in a trigger pull that feels much lighter than it actually is, while still providing positive ignition of all primers. This results in more controllable shooting, even among those with smaller, weaker hands who find traditional DAO triggers difficult to operate.

The sights are replaceable ramp front, and a fixed U-notch rear. An internal lock, unobtrusively hidden under the grip, does not interfere with the fire control mechanism in any way when disengaged.

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  • http://nugun.wordpress.com N.U.G.U.N.

    Now if they would only give this to me in the new .327 Magnum, I’d be ecstatic.

    This is the firearm I have wanted chambered in .327M

  • jdun1911

    The .327 mag like other new cartridges will probably die in a few years.

  • http://www.hellinahandbasket.net James R. Rummel

    Good post.

    James

  • http://shootingsportsblog.com/bulletboy/new-ruger-lcr/ Bullet Boy

    The .327 cartridge is too expensive. But I don’t think it would be hard to build the LCR in .327. It may even be a little lighter?

  • Rob_1975au

    Really appreciate The Firearm Blog, thanks.

    In the vid, it did not look too safe, pulling away at the trigger, especially after he put a round back in. (it did sound like an empty).

    The tech didn’t look too happy either.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Rob_1975au, no problem, I am pleased you enjoy the blog. Yea, I did notice that in the video.

  • http://anthroblogogy.blogspot.com/ DirtCrashr

    I wonder if the tech-dude’s wrist brace and elbow bandage is from shooting hot loads in the little gun from off the bench. ;-)

  • Ariel

    I WAS very, VERY excited about this gun for about 15 minutes until I found out that an “internal lock” is part of the design. No I’m no longer very interested.

    Probably 1 bonehead at Ruger messed it all up for me. :-(

    Fortunately, S&W is making some 642s and 442s available now without the lock.

  • Jim

    I am somewhat of a novice, but am considering purchasing a Ruger LCR.

    What is an “internal lock”?

  • Aitz

    I hike a lot, for week long bush hikes, and something like this in a .22mag guise would be super sweet; With maybe 6 or 7 rounds instead of the 5.
    .38 although better at S.D. destroys Squirrels on impact, as well as other survival meat too!…they should make 2 or 3 different caliber models for diverse situations. Im sure theyll do well.
    First time here, like this blog mate.

  • Jones

    Whats up with the techs arm in the video. Is that the result of test shooting unto oblivion?

    As far as the gun still, rather have a j frame. Its my belief you can take polymer only so far. When they start making metal/polymer alloys I might consider it.

  • Aaron

    I have the LCP and like it, although I found that it does not shoot certain hollow points very well. I am interested in handling a LCR, I like Rugers new design on these two guns. They are small, dependable and stylish guns.

  • Raul H. DIAZ

    Hats Off to Ruger for this incredible new design! ..as an ex law enforcement officer I can look back on the many times that a weapon such as the new LCR would have been an ideal backup for me.concealed posibilities are endless and only limited by your imagination, ankle carry,pants and coat pockets,..inside a hat,…neck lanyard,etc.Such a light frame weight will allow the carry of two backup LCR’s easily. Also this design is ideal for a lot of the ladies out there that feel that the wewight of a J frame is too much.Ruger how about the same LCR model in a .327 with a 6 shot cylinder? WOW!

    Raul H. Diaz
    NRA Life Endowment Member
    NRA Certified Instructor

  • Harvick

    I too would like to know what the “internal Lock” is

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Harvick, an internal lock is a system where you can use a key to lock to gun so that it cannot be fired. This is a flawed idea and locks have been known to engage during recoil.

  • Ray

    I was excited about this gun but the news about an internal lock does put quite a damper on that excitement. Sounds like they got it right, but putting stainless in applicable areas, such as the cylinder.

    I have an LCP but Ruger made two grievous errors with regard to that gun. First and foremost, it should have been made with STAINLESS for the barrel, slide, and other parts that may be prone to rust. Second, and more easily cured, I think it is nothing short of stupid for ANY manufacturer to ship ANY semi-automatic pistol or rifle with less than two magazines. There is just no good reason to do this.

    I contacted them and got a laconic reply to the effect the LCP was not a tactical pistol and therefore, they didn’t see the need in shipping more than one mag with it. Their reply regarding the non-stainless construction was similar and included a phrase to the effect that since it was designed to be carried close to the body, or something close to that. If it is going to be carried close to the body, which most small guns surely will be, THAT IS EXACTLY WHY IT NEEDS TO BE STAINLESS!!!!!! Does no one at Ruger actually carry their guns? Perspiration and corrosion go hand in hand with blue steel weaponry carried close to the body. I hope one day they wake up and offer the LCP in stainless. I also hope they wake up and lose the internal lock. That is a bad move.

  • Ray

    Typo alert: Last sentence of first paragraph should read: Sounds like they got it right BY putting stainless in applicable areas, such as the cylinder.

  • john

    How much should i worry about this internal lock with the LCR? It is messing up my plan for my first CC gun. I want it to be 100% reliable…

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      john, all Ruger guns now come with a lock, as do guns from other manufacturers. Its more of a problem in bigger recoil guns such as .44 Magnum. If you are concerned about a particular manufacturers internal lock post on a forum dedicated that that manufacturer and ask about the gun in particular, somone is sure to be able to help you.

  • jedimarkus

    You can still buy an even lighter J frame S&W in the 340PD @ 12 oz. yawn…

  • krazyboutducks

    jedimarkus tells it how it is. Ruger has done a great job or marketing and controlling supply of new gun designs. S&W is still ahead of the curve with a lighter all metal PD!

  • Cymond

    Yeah, but how much do those scadium S&W revolvers cost? This is is a 13.5 oz gun at roughly the same price point as the S&W j-frame (15 oz) revolvers. I think the main selling point wil be the trigger though.

    I second the idea of a model in 327. The cartridge will definitely die if it isn’t chambered in some decent guns. I doubt the SP 101 and a few other guns can sustain the 327. No, it needs to be chambered in a popular gun.

  • David Greeson

    Am looking for a 22 calb on a 38 frame 6 inch new or used
    Thanks
    David Greeson
    dnmpd20@comcast. net

  • http://www.shooter-ready.blogspot.com johnnyreb

    The pricetag on this one is very attractive. I still haven’t seen one of these yet, but have seen them advertised at around $375 …

  • http://TheFirearmsBlog Dave Stanley

    I have had my CCW here in SC since they became legal in 95. I usually carry an autoloader in a shoulder rig and an old Charter Arms Off Duty revolver I bought used at a gun show about 12 years ago. It has the sweetest DA trigger of any 5 shot revolver I have ever owned. I keep it in a pocket holster in case my auto loader hiccups. At the moment my big auto is a FN ..FNP in the .45 ACP genre. I know many will gasp,pull their hair,curse,spit on the floor and scream “Hey that’s not a CCW weapon….Yeah it is. I am a big ole corn fed country boy and on me….it is a CCW weapon.All things are relative…On Andre the Giant…the S&W 500 Magnum would have been a CCW weapon.

  • Mike

    Internal locks are not very functional on a daily basis and are just ignored.
    I don’t use them and I’m sure most of you don’t either. The only useful function I can see for these locks is the meet federal guidelines and may keep your gun from being confiscated someday. Long term storage may be another use, but most of us have gun safes for storage needs.
    Blog looks great.

  • jon moore

    Got my LCR on the 15th of Apr and am very pleased with it so far.

    Jon

  • Paul

    What are you loading in the cylinder at approx 5:41 in the video? Just curious.

  • GARY

    I got mine Apr 23rd and ran 50 rounds through it immediately. Feels good, lite, accurate as a little gun can be and its a keeper. Paid $435.00 for mine (South Carolina).

  • 2ndAdmendFan

    I looked at one of these at a local gun shop. I have large hands and this gun was very comfortable in my hands. The trigger was very smooth, I enjoyed the overall feel of this gun. It would make a very good CC weapon. Would probably wear it on my ankle or in a jacket pocket. Looking to get one real soon.

  • Lou

    I obtained an LCR from an online gun dealer. Picked it up today. If anyone else out there has one, is there any sort of a “rattle” near the hammer assembly when you shake yours? Everything on mine seems to operate as it should (I have not fired mine yet) but when I shake it, there is a sound as though something is loose in the vicinity of where the hammer/firing pin is located. Anyone have a similar experience? I have not heard this sort of a sound from any other revolver I own.

  • http://www.dawnnicole.net Nicole

    Hi there,

    I noticed it appears to be all gentleman on this blog but I wanted to put the word out should any of your wives/girlfriends conceal carry or you would like to them to. We have had many men interested in our products that we have met at shows. Anyhow my mother and I have started up a business making concealed carry purses and accessories. I gathered I would write to see if any of you may be interested for your wives or showing them to encourage them to carry! Women need to especially these days!

    Thanks so much for your time!
    Nicole Dewberry
    Owner/Designer

  • Moe

    My Lcr is better then any Jframe S&W I have ever owned. Out of the box trigger is unbelivable. Very straight shooter, Light and over all fit and finish is great.

  • http://www.zebraniner.com ZEBRA NINER

    Lou,

    Concerning the noise. I rented an LCR at my gun club, and also played with one that was unfired, both made this noise. The person at the counter was unsure as to what is was, but that didn’t stop my from ordering my own. I wish I would have thought about this yesterday, because I was at the NRA show and I could have asked someone from Ruger. Oh well, I’m sure if it’s a problem we’ll all find out soon enough.

  • Julio

    I did get to hold and get a feel for one of the LCR’s yesterday at my local dealer. Of course, they told me it was already sold but they are selling them for $600. Now, most any revolvers are up there at that level these days or so it seems. All gun prices have just shot up through the roof … it’s absurd… but the LCR looks like a winner. There were keys in there for what seems to me to be an internal lock. I like the gun but I am very leery of having an internal lock on any of my firearms. This is the big reason I don’t own a Taurus firearm and never will. Government bureaucrats are idiots and I want my firearm as simple and purely functional as possible. I don’t want an internal lock that could break or fail and leave me helpless if it does fail (no matter what they say about it not ever happening).

    After that rant… I really like the gun’s physical characteristics, weight and such. Wish the grip extended a tad further as my had is fairly large, but if it’s recoil is felt much less than the Airweight–Ruger has a winner here.. It’s extremely light.. and I have a 642 Airweight Smith & Wesson…. I think the Ruger is still lighter. Great CCW gun.

    By the way, I bought the LCP also… should have my first range trip with the LCP this weekend.

  • Julio

    Oh ya… they called me back and let me know they had another LCR that had come in. So … of course… this one has found a nice new home.

    First, all the ones I’ve gotten to hold and look at have the same little rattle. I’m not sure what it is, but it’s definitely in the grip assembly area. It’s not the cylinder, ejector rod or anything in that area.

    I’m no fan of the internal gun locks and until now those little internal locks have kept me away from just about every firearm that has one.

    The one thing I will say is that the LCR’s internal lock is inside the grip of the firearm on the grip frame. That means unless you really want to engage it, (why, I can’t imagine) but you’ll need to unscrew the grip, pull it off, and stick the key in and engage the lock. The one question in my mind is whether or not the lock can engage itself at the worst of times… when you really need the firearm. It seems unlikely, but odd things happen sometimes so you have to decide if this is a make or break issue for you if you are considering this firearm.

    That being said, the grip feels superb in the hand. The grip manages recoil well, even with hotter loads. I have a Smith and Wesson model 642 Airweight and the weight of the two guns is about the same, though in my opinion the Smithy has a bit more felt recoil. I have not changed the grips on my Smith and they are not laser grips so the original plastic grips don’t absorb quite as well as the thicker Hogue on the LCR.

    Overall, I’d call the LCR a great product offering. Prices on all guns and ammunition are skyrocketing so don’t expect a bargain price on this. I’ve not seen a revolver in the $4XX range any time recently and most are in the $500-$600 range these days from the latest series of gun shows I’ve attended. I paid $550 for my LCR.

  • Rick

    That has got to be the most hideous revolver I have ever seen.

  • Julio

    Folks said that about the Glock at first…

  • Matthew

    In hand, it feels great. Only gripe is the trigger guard extends a bit front wards heading too much, and aesthetically is unusual.

  • Pete

    I’d love to get one of these revolvers. Just waiting to get one in at my local gun store. I do have a quick comment about the video on this blog. At the very end the commentator loads a round in the cyclinder, then starts pulling the trigger. The Ruger tech guy looked just a little nervous. I know Ruger is very safety conscience but they should not put out a video where someone puts a round in the cyclinder and then starts pulling the trigger in a work area. Scary!

  • Julio

    Fired another 300 rounds of 158 grain +P ammo through the Ruger LCR and then through my S&W model 642 Airweight to kind of see the difference. It may be me, but it seems that the angle or position of the grip on the Ruger directs the recoil in a different manner than the S&W. Both guns have a fair amount of punch to them with these loads. I wouldn’t consider it “comfortable” to shoot with that load “all day long”.

    There was a lady in the next lane (indoor range) at Outdoor World and she asked me if that was my gun making all that noise (“That little gun?”) … of course it was the LCR…. I don’t know if it was me this time but it seemed that most of my impacts were about an inch high and 2 inches right at about 30 feet. Doesn’t make much sense as I am left handed so my “pull” would be lower and left. Could also be the rounds. (speer Lawman) The smaller loads didn’t seem to behave this way… but it could have been me this time around as it wasn’t happening initially (1st 3 rounds, slow fire, were center target in a 2″ group at this distance with the +P ammo).

    Overall, I’m still quite impressed by the Ruger. It’s a little larger than the Smith and a little “beefier”. The rubber grip on the Ruger makes it easier to hold and fills the hand better but then again, you’ll have a time pulling it from a pocket whereas the Smith has a plastic grip (won’t bind up). What’s better? Your call on that.

    On a belt holster, I’d like the Ruger a bit better, but if total hideout and concealment is a factor, the Smith has the edge as it’s a little smaller and slimmer. If it’s in an “in the pants” holster, it doesn’t matter as far as size goes, but the edge would have to go to the Ruger as you can’t do much to the polymer housing… so sweat, etc.. isn’t as much of an issue.

    I own both, but I haven’t yet started carrying the Ruger and I do still carry the Smith…(and a Glock 23) but I’m the type that wants lots of rounds through the firearm before I’ll let my life depend on it.

  • pd1a2

    Went to the store to get a s&w 440 after weeks of online research but ended up with the LCR. If you’re really serious about getting one I suggest you do the same and compare them side by side, shoot both of them, then decide for yourself. The LCR’s trigger pull and ergonomics is what got me sold.

  • Julio

    No question the Ruger’s trigger blows away the S&W J frame … not even close.

    I’m carrying the Ruger a bit more these days but I’m using standard Federal 38 spl loads with +P rounds in the speedloaders.

    :O

  • DW3

    I have both the S&W 642, and most recently the Ruger LCR. Can’t see alot of difference other than the trigger pull. Went to my local gunsmith and had the S&W trigger lightened up….very comparible to the Ruger now. In fact… my wife likes the S&W better. But it has the CTC lasergrip… she loves that grip !!!

  • Jason Bradley

    I want to thank all of yall for the input… I too am weighing the pros and cons of both the LCR and the 642 and you all have done a fantastic and professional job at helping me out.. Much Thanks … JB

  • thad

    I have an LCR man this gun is nothing but trouble I went all out with the laser grips. First time I fired it the latch pin spring started coming out over the latch pin just under the barrel I can’t find a bullet that won’t unseat 3rd round and after. i have sent it to the factory the people I talked to there didn’t seem to concerned about my problem. last ruger for me if i can get anywhere near my money back out of this thing I will dump it and buy S&W

    Thad

  • thad

    hey can anyone tell what will shoot in an lcr without unseating the bullets

    Thad

  • Julio

    What kind of ammunition is coming un-seated to the point where they are jamming your revolver? I’ve used the LCR with Federal Hydra Shok and Speer Lawman 158 gr +P and neither have had issues with unseating. I’d check the neck crimps on the ammo you are using. Page 8 of the manual talks about the issue given the light weight of the gun. As we continue to venture into lightweight guns with higher calibers, especially magnums this can creep up as an issue.

  • thad

    Ok folks had to send the lcr to ruger for repair of the front latch cover it was missing the gun still unseats bullets not to the point of jamming but noticable to the naked eye have tried georgia arms 158 gr mc and 135gr +p gold dot hollow points, Have tried winchester 110gr silver tips. have tried fiocchi 158gr mc. all of this unseats the bullets not enought to jam but who wants the bullet to unseat at all. Some of this stuff unseated on third round. any help would be welcome and does anyone want to buy this gun for 640 dollars it has crimson trace grips have fired about a hundred rounds through it. Thad

  • kybandit

    Just bought an LCR after passing my CC course. I really like the light weight and balance, and the trigger pull is perfect for me. Also noticed the little ‘rattle’ back in the enclosed portion of the gun…my dealer assured me it was the nature of the beast and that it was ok to fire. Took him at his word and proceeded to put a few dozen rounds of Blazer +P 125 grain hollowpoints through it; got some nice groupings and the recoil wasn’t bad at all. I think this is the beginning of a long relationship between me and the LCR.

  • Judson11

    This blog is great! I read all the comments, most of them positive. Found an LCR online for $399 (Yup, $399). Had it shipped and can’t say enough good about it.
    The grip looked small at first, but fits my hand and my wife’s hand very comfortably.
    The rattle seems like the internal lock mechanism – enough play to make it work, not tight enough to make it catch when released. This was determined with the grip off.
    The internal lock – positive engagement in the locked position, and positive engagement in the unlocked position. It doesn’t feel like vibration would make it engage (never can tell, though).
    Did the unseating test several times – slow fire and rapid fire. No issues with the 5th round after 4 shots as suggested inthe manual. (Used PMC Bronze 132 gr.) I don’t have a similar story to Thad’s.
    Recoil – well, I probably wouldn’t expect to shoot 300-500 rounds in a day with it, like with the S&W Sigma 9. The small grip and light weight do wear on one a little.
    At 7 yards I had to start compensating for trajectory – very accurate for the barrel length.
    Bottom line, the weight, trigger pull dynamics, grip, and relatively low recoil make it a winner in my book. My wife favors this one over the 9mm, so I might have to get another if I want to carry it around.
    Judson11

  • Justin

    I was told the rattle is the recoil built into the handle.

  • Judson11

    So we all get educated, this is Ruger’s official explanation for the rattle in the LCR (http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAQs?site=Firearm&cat=6#Q119):

    “Like all newly manufactured Ruger revolvers, your LCR has a transfer bar safety system as part of the fire control mechanism. As a result, a hammer blow can be transmitted to the firing pin only when the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear. This is a positive internal safety feature. By design, the transfer bar is allowed some movement within the fire control mechanism so that trigger pull is not affected. Due to this necessary “play” in the transfer bar, a shooter will sometimes hear the transfer bar “rattle” when the revolver is shaken. This rattle caused by the play in the transfer bar is completely normal in the LCR.”

    Hope that helps.

    judson11

  • Haz

    What’s all this about bullets unseating? I have have had a S&W 342PD Airlite for some time — same weight or maybe a little lighter than the LCR, along with a couple of 640s. Never a problem with unseating in factory ammo, either new FMJ ball range rounds or the Speer 135 gr .38 +P GDHP I use for social occasions. The latter is practically made for snubbies. Good ballistic performance, perceived recoil and flash seem less dramatic than other +P rounds.

    The Airlite does have a vicious recoil compared to a steel “Centennial,” not surprising when a +P comes to life in a handgun with so little mass: Carry a lot, shoot a little, I guess.

    Love the S&W product, but am strongly considering recommending the LCR as a personal protection handgun for a friend, price and trigger being the major selling points.

    Even after factory trigger smoothing jobs, all my S&W Centennials’ triggers take some getting used to, and most autoloader-fanciers hate ‘em. Never a malfunction, though. . . .

    One note about these very lightweight revolvers with +P ammo: I tolerate recoil pretty well, but when I first got the 342PD, I was dissatisfied with accuracy. Groups at 7 yards were erratic, and I was convinced there was something wrong with it. Sent it back to the factory, in fact, for a trigger job and to have Mother check it over. They said it was fine. I finally digested the fact that I was flinching and it was my own [expletive deleted] fault.

    You have to practice, put up with the blisters and bruises on your poor li’l hannies, and acclimatize yourself to them if they’re going to be useful as defense weapons — and give you the benefit of their almost ridiculously light weight.

  • Terry

    I just won the LCR at a Friends of the NRA banquet. Looking foward to trying it out. Thanks for informaiton, since I didn’t really didn’t know much about this gun.

  • Apache Paul

    I want one! I have progressed from a Taurus .38 Stainless to a Taurus .38 Stainless w/ concealed hammer & C.T. Laser grips to my current carry gun, a lightweight hammerless S&W J frame w/ C.T. Laser grips. It’s actually a Lady Smith…OK, laugh it up! The price was right and it shoots great….are you guys still laughing? Fine, stand down range and tell me it’s a girl’s gun!

    Seriously, if i have 1 complaint about the Smith it would be the heavy trigger pull and “surprise” let-off. I handled an LCR at the Ft. Knox P.X. and fell in love. The trigger is like no other i have experienced, it seemed to have a “hold point” just before firing that I found very useful in predicting when the hammer would fall. That predictability could be crucial in a self-defense scenario.

    Anyhow, i’m saving up my pennies….did i hear giggling? I’m leaving!

  • thad

    They sell guns at the px did not know this, I have base privlidges but robins doesn’t sell ammo or guns. I have finally found ammo my lcr likes and the factory fixed the front latch cover I really like this gun now. My son just bought one and quite a few of my friends have one now.

  • Apache Paul

    They do a Ft. Knox. All good quality stuff, good prices and no sales tax! They also carry a full line of Trijicon optics, I often lust after the ACOG’s for my AR-15, but that’s a different thread, huh?

  • munrag1

    Just bought the LCR. It is all that they say it is. Before I watched the vid on this site, I would have sworn that the trig pull was 6-7 lbs. It is just “different” than what you would expect. I am retired state law enforcement, and I wish this would have been around when I was on duty! At age 43, and having been around firearms all of my life, I am not impressed taht easy. This truely impressed me, truely!

  • Bob

    Have only put about 75 rds thru my new LCR. While trigger is smooth, seems to be heavier than I desire. Wadcutters make a great load (2.5gr Bullseye, 148 gr HBWC) to get locked on with this shorty. Have had to fiddle with the CT laser to get it zeroed, another adjustment or two and I should be happy. Never used laser sights in the past, but as a defense, CC weapon I think the LCR with the CT laser will fit the bill quite nice.

  • Bugzy

    I haven’t and won’t buy a revolver with an internal trigger lock. A revolver’s strength is it’s simplicity. As Kim du Toit said, it’s like a fork – you pick it up and it works. At least they used to.

  • a oakley

    I recently purchased an LCR I am pleased with the revolver, Its light weight and handles well.I find the recoil isn’t bad at all and that is a huge plus for me. and its small size and light weight make it perfet for personal protection.

  • Grant

    Does anyone know, without a doubt, that the +P vs normal 38 SP ammo has ever made a differance in any real life situation using a snub nose?

    Also does anyone have experience with the Glaser safe round?

  • http://none LuckyPup

    Some people complain about the recoil of the +P rounds in a snub nose 38, and some even recommend using standard pressure (non +P) rounds in 38 specials with 2 or 3 inch barrels. However, the +P has only 9% more pressure than the non +P cartridges (according to SAAMI). So I wouldn’t think that using +P over non +P would be a significant difference (not like going from .38 to .357).

  • Julio

    I think it’s not necessarily about the recoil. The issue with recoil and hotter loading is the flash and recovery from the recoil to accurately place follow up shots.

  • KCBrown

    I just bought my LCR yesterday, 3/29/10… I did quite a bit of research, as this is my first gun purchase for personal protection. As a small, female gun carrier, I found this gun to be very comfortable in my hand, nice smooth trigger pull and very light so my wrist doesn’t get sore. Can’t wait to test it out tonight! I highly recommend it for women because it’s very light-weight and there’s no “cocking” or hammer pull, you just load and shoot… nice if you ever have a predator you may have to quietly hide from!!

  • gunut

    I am sad. Initially I loved this gun for it’s weight, trigger and the way it fits in my pocket but Ruger screwed this up with the rattling transfer bar in the handle. I almost bought one but luckily I heard the rattle on the showroom floor. I will not pay $450 for a glorified baby rattle. Ruger’s rattle / lack of quality on the LCR and the safety recall on the LCP has now ranked them with Taurus and XD as 2nd tier entry level only firearms. I will carry my Glock G33 in my pocket for now until I can afford a Sig .380. Ruger needs to recall this POS as their rep is falling in the dumper!

  • Julio

    The rattle is normal. It doesn’t affect the normal function of the firearm in any way. The recalls on both the LCP and SR9, were non functional recalls. They were what I call, dummy legal proofing.

  • http://www.predatorwild.com Heath

    Any feedback on this pistol from folks who’ve purchased it and been able to carry and shoot it?

  • Gene

    Has anyone had the cylinder stop create a shiny ring on the rear of the cylinder?

    I have run 30 rounds and dry fired about the same.

    Other than that, great weapon. Very manageable and accurate.

    • Kathy

      A slight “marking” ring is common in revolvers due to design of cylinder catch;
      If you look at the area below rear part of cylinder, you will see a small piece of metal protuding, this is what helps turn the cylinder to the next round. It’s normal and no cause for alarm

  • Jason M

    Heath,
    I had a Taurus 738 for one day and took it back to the gun store the next day and traded up for an LCR. So far so good. You will have to try various loads as some have very brutal recoil. For target practice, my best results are with PMC bronze 132 gr FMJ. For defence, the Hornady 110 gr FTX is accurate and the recoil manageable. Hope this helps.

  • Hawk-i

    First I rented the LCR at the range with standard Hogue grips. The trigger and perceived recoil sold me on this gun. The Hogues make it so nice to shoot, but I went for the smaller, and less comfortable CTs for self defense work.

    I sighted the laser with 125g Gold Dots +Ps at 30 ft, but I was amazed at how well I shot the +Ps during rapid fire without paying attention to the laser dot – just pointed the front sight and floored the gas. This got me five rounds within a 4 inch circle on my 8 inch ring target. It can’t be fired as fast on a Glock or M&P auto types with their short resets. The trigger must be released to its full extent, but that can be done while recovering from recoil. When taking my time I placed four within 2 inches with one flyer. All in all, not too bad for an older guy with bifocals… the gun seemed to do its job without me having to push it.

    In a CCW comparison, I shot the LCR better and with less pain than my Kel Tec PF-9 (it’s grip and trigger break point is too convulsive for my large hands). The LCR slips into the same U.Mikes No. 4 pocket holster that I use with my PF9 and looks just as well hidden. When using a IWB holster the LCRs grip doesn’t cover as well as the PF9 on my slim frame – I need to work on my pecs to spread the drape of my shirts LOL.

    You should know that finding a good CCW gun is based on personal ergos. I just try to choose guns that are at least 38 +P or 9mm. The best I found so for is a HK P7 – just wish they made a CT laser for it.

  • http://alvennemeyer@aol.com shotmaster

    The “LCP” looks like a great firearm. I carry a Ruger 380 “LCP” in a “Stealth Defense Holster”, with the patent pending strut feature, which is great for all day comfort & concealment.

  • Bob Collins

    What is the trigger pull for the .380 Bodyguard?

  • George Blevins

    The Ruger LCR .38 is perfect for me to carry in the pocket of my jacket as apposed to my revolver with external hammer or one of my semi autos. With the internal firing pin I can pull it out in a hurry or fire through the cloth if I have to. It is small, light weight and will ruin a crack heads day. I found that it was, or I am, not as accurate past 7 yards as with my larger pistols. The LCR is designed for close encounter defense. The trigger pull was smooth and it did have a bit of a kick.

  • toscl

    I own the 642 the trigger pull is a little harsh. I shot a LCR today it was much smoother. I will purchase it for my wife because of that. I like both.

  • Mr Presto

    I just got a chance to shoot my new LCR .38, my first revolver and I am really happy with this gun! Easy on the hand when shooting, light in the pocket and nice trigger pull, my new CC pocket pistol for the winter. I have shot my friends S&W 642 and this is much better, lighter and easier to handle with the nice full grip that your fingers just wrap around.

  • Snipe

    Rob,
    Watch the video again, there is no round in the gun. Its a plastic ring they provide that sits at the back of the cylinder to show its empty. Why is every body so worried about people on videos proving the guns are safe anyway? I have investigated a lot of shooting but haven’t seen anybody shot though a video camera or computer yet! Let people who know about guns take care of that stuff and try to learn somthing instead of assuming you know better.

  • Mr Presto

    Made it to the range the other day to run another 60 rounds thru this great firearm. This revolver is a pleasure to carry and shoot! The nice thick grip seems to absorb a lot of recoil and my fingers just wrap around it. Everyone I have showed it to are really impressed with the look, feel and weight.

  • Mr Presto

    Out to the range today with my fabulous LCR 38 special. A friend had his S&W 642 so we took turns shooting both, the LCR is much smoother, easier and better to shoot. Anyone reading this blog considering a S&W should really try the LCR, this is a great pistol that has become become my main winter carry and a joy to shoot.

  • Wenonah

    I haven’t acquired a new firearm since the infernal internal locks became common but I do want an LCR for my summer carry gun. I figure a drop of red locktite in the lock mechanism should do the trick nicely. While firearms have become more complex over the ages, every increase in complexity that stood the test of time came with real, practical benefits. Internal locks don’t meet this test and baring bad legislation or bad case law they will die out eventually. If someone who doesn’t know how to handle it safely gets their mitts on your gun without supervision you have already failed.

  • Mr Presto

    I am safe with my firearms, never put my finger on the trigger until ready to shoot and have no small children living in my home. When the grandkids come over all guns go in the locked safe. They can put all the internal locks on guns they want I don’t need them and I don’t use them but I do keep the keys in case I were to ever sell the gun.

  • Bev S

    I just took an Intro to Handguns course, including concealed carry certification, and discovered that my pearl-handled .25 Taurus, a gift, is worthless for self-defense and unreliable for the range. I shot a Beretta .380 at the course, but found that the slide is too hard for me to pull back. The instructor recommended a few .380 semi-automatics (Sig P230, for example), but the gun store guy recommended the Ruger LCR because it’s so simple to use. I thought the trigger was very much easier than the S&W, and I really like the glow-in-the-dark sight. My hesitation to spend this kind of money is about the lack of an external safety mechanism. Ok, I’m a wuss, but I’m a 65-year-old female wuss, and it’s a concern for concealed carry (probably in a purse with a lockable compartment for the gun). I’d appreciate anyone’s advice about the safety of this safety-less gun. Thanks.

  • Apache Paul

    In response to Bev S,
    I have been researching this gun since it came out and am very close to buying one. The guy at the gun store is right, (in my opinion), about the LCR being the best gun for you and here are my reasons…

    First, after 25 years in the military shooting everything from .38 Special revolvers to Mark 19 grenade launchers, I have come to trust the revolver for my personal protection. I have shot a lot of guns and sometimes, when i pulled the trigger, they’ve gone “click”. As a soldier, you train to take “corrective action” after a misfire. Corrective action can be a complex series of mechanical manipulations of the weapon and can vary according to the type of weapon. (A hairy proposition in combat and not what you need in a dark parking lot with some thug in your face!) EVERY TIME I HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON A REVOLVER IN 30 PLUS YEARS AND THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS, IT WENT BANG!

    Second, semi-auto guns are more maintenance intensive and must be kept clean to function reliably. Something as small as a lint ball or gum wrapper in the wrong place can render your semi-auto pistol into a single shot pistol. A revolver is much less fussy and will function fine even if neglected. (Although i don’t recommend ignoring routine cleaning & inspection of any gun.) Also, the LCR is made of plastic, stainless steel and aluminum which are all low maintenance materials.

    Third, the revolver’s beauty is it’s simplicity of operation. It’s the original “point and click” device. As for your concerns about a lack of a safety, if the gun is carried in a secure holster within the purse, the risk of an accidental discharge is extremely low. In a high stress situation, (that fits any situation where you need to use a gun), fine motor skills go out the window when the adrenalin begins to flow. You don’t want to be fumbling for a safety, racking a slide or trying to remember if you already have a round in the chamber. As you mentioned your age in your post, i would point out that racking the slide on a semi-auto takes considerable grip strength which seems to leave us with age, at least in my case.

  • Apache Paul

    For Bev S Continued…

    Fourth, i would recommend that you get the LCR version in .357 magnum. Hear me out…. You don’t have to shoot magnum ammo in it. You can shoot .38 special in the .357 just fine. The reason I recommend the .357 is that the cylinder frame on that model is made of stainless steel vs aluminum in the .38. Although it adds 4 ounces to the weight of the gun, it also adds strength and alleviates the main complaint that i have heard about the LCR and that is “flame cutting” of the top strap of the aluminum cylinder frame.

  • Apache Paul

    Huh?

  • Bev S

    Thanks for the advice. After talking yesterday with a friend of a friend who works at a gun range, I learned that I need TWO guns, a light one to carry and a heavier one for the range. Last night my boyfriend and I solved that problem – I’m going to take his .38 special to the range, and he can shoot his 9 mm. I also discovered that I can pull the very stiff slide on the 9 mm using the technique I read online – holding the slide with my left hand and pushing the gun forward with my right. I went to the gun range shop this afternoon and handled both the Ruger LCP and LCR. I really liked the LCR, but it’s too heavy to carry in my pocket. We gals have small pockets, especially here in FL where shorts are the norm most of the year. (I was told not to put it in my purse, even one made with a concealed carry compartment, because if someone grabs my purse and runs away with it, they also have my gun!) So I chose the LCP. The slide is very easy to pull using the hold-and-push technique, and it doesn’t have a safety, just the double-action trigger, so I’m not concerned about it going off accidently in my pocket. So it’s pretty much a point-and-click once it’s loaded. I can pick it up next week. I found the ammo in Walmart to be the least expensive around here, and I now have 200 rounds of .380 to break in the gun at the range. They didn’t have hollow-points for the .380, but I’ll find them. I also picked up rounds for the .38 for the range, so I’m all set for now. Thanks again for your thoughtful comments.

  • LuckyPup

    Bev S – I agree with Apache Paul about the LCR. I’m no gun expert, but I think the LCR would be an ideal defensive gun for you to carry. It’s lightweight, small, reliable, and easy to use. I wouldn’t worry about the lack of a safety. Like Apache Paul says (or implies), you don’t want to be fumbling around to unlock the gun when your life might be at stake. It would be extremely rare for the gun to go off by itself, or if dropped. Also, there is no exposed hammer, so you don’t have the danger of the hammer being cocked and left in that position for something bad to happen.

    Apache Paul – I’ve heard that if you shoot 38 spl ammo in a 357 gun, you will get a residue buildup because of the shorter length of the shell. Is that true?

    Also, I haven’t heard that much about the flame cutting problem, but I would think that the heavier 357 would be better than the 38 when shooting 38 shells because the recoil would be less. I’m considering purchasing an LCR 38 spl (possibly as a CCW), but I might get the 357 LCR and use 38 or 38+P ammo. Not sure what grip to get though. The standard Hogue grip seems nice, the boot grip is a little smaller and might be better for concealment, but the crimson trace grips look pretty good too. Decisions, decisions …

  • Apache Paul

    BEV S- It sounds like you have good people around you and I appreciate that you are giving such careful consideration to your choice for a CCW. So many folks just rush out and buy the first thing that strikes their fancy and then end up leaving it at home when they “get the regrets”. I would suggest that you make it a priority at the range to shoot the gun you’re going to carry to gain confidence and familiarity to include reloading and malfunction drills. As far as ammo, shoot alot of cheap ball ammo for familiarization and drills and then enough Hornady Critical Defense to make sure it will function reliably in your gun. It is a hollow point bullet filled with a red plastic plug which helps it penetrate clothing without clogging, but then expands well in “wet stuff”(like bad-guy aorta).

    LUCKY PUP- Hi! I have been shooting .38′s in my Ruger GP 100 for years and have not noticed any build-up, but as an old soldier, I am pretty diligent about thoroughly cleaning my guns after each day of firing.

    In regard to the flame cutting, the link below gave me visible evidence that convinced me that the stainless frame was the way to go.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0h3tz4pAF0

    As far as grips, I have the same dilemma. I currently carry a S&W J frame w/ CT lasergrips and love them. My research indicates that the LCR in .357 Mag is very harsh to shoot with full magnum loads and the laser grips, and I know I’ll want to shoot magnums. For me the boot cut grip is definitely ruled out for the Magnum gun. I am tending toward keeping the Hogue grips and adding an XS Big Dot Tritium front sight.
    Decisions is right, but it’s fun ain’t it?

  • http://50caliberfreedom.blogspot.com/ Ernie

    I certainly agree with the concern expressed by Ray regarding the material used. It should have been SS, as you stated. Perspiration could be an issue, damaging a perfectly nice piece. Even moisture from a rain shower would be problematic.

    Sharpshooter
    http://50caliberfreedom.blogspot.com/

    Thanks,
    Ernie

  • Matt D

    You will find Internal locks on a lot of Taurus models. I haven’t heard about them engaging on recoil but I barely have 500 rounds through either my LCP or LCR. I think I am using the nomenclature correctly. I have an LCP and an LCR and definitely prefer the LCP. Conceals great and as the guy in the video says “it recoils differently”.
    Another comment, I have big hands and both the LCR and the LCP can be fairly easily manipulated. The grip on the LCR is actually better for the “bighanded” in my opinion. Clearing jams on an LCP is just slightly more difficult than on a subcompact or compact Glock or Springfield. I haven’t had an actual jam on the LCP but I practice clearing jams on all pistols.

  • Mike Dennis

    A friend of mine said that older model Ruger .38s can be retrofitted for suppressors. Is that true?

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    • Kris

      After shooting my husband’s Beretta PX4 Storm sub-compact, I realized it was just too much gun for my small hands. I had a hard time wrapping my hands around the grip, couldn’t pull the slide back at all, and could barely load the clip without a speed loader. Recoil was not a problem for me, but beyond that, just too much gun!

      Because I wanted something for self-defense and was worried I wouldn’t be able to load a round into the chamber with a semi-auto, I decided to try several different handguns at my local range (with an instructor) to be sure I had a good fit. I wanted something that was an extension of my arm, comfortable and easy to use. I went through their entire inventory without actually “looking” at any of the guns and went merely by how they felt in my hand.

      After 3 hours and 125 rounds, I decided on the Ruger LCR .38 Special +P. SWEET little gun! Fits my hand like a glove, is lightweight, recoil was minimal (to me) and I didn’t have to struggle to load and reload. I was able to get all 5 rounds into my 8″ target at 20′, 15′ and 6′ each time after reloading.

      I found this blog by accident – glad I did! I watched the video and read all of the comments here. It appears I’ve made a good selection! I respect the opinions of those with more experience with handguns, and for my next purchase will consider some of your other recommendations. But to those of you who shoot the LCR, you have confirmed my own findings. I appreciate the thoughtful comments – there is some excellent information here. I found myself nodding in agreement with many of the responses! I will be back to read more! Thanks to all! k~

  • Shawn

    I really like the LCR 38 it is very accurate and fun to shoot and very easy to conceal.

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