Idiot shows off unlicensed AR-15 on youtube. Video used as evidence.


Stupidity has no limits. Times Colonist (Victoria, Canada) reports:

YouTube videos of a Victoria man blasting a couch with an assault rifle in the woods near Jordan River were entered as evidence in a trial yesterday in B.C. Supreme Court.

The showing of “AR-15 Makes Swiss Cheese Out of a Couch” is the first time the Crown in B.C. has used YouTube videos to prove a number of allegations, prosecutor Nils Jensen told Justice Robert Metzger in his opening statement. The video has been removed from YouTube.

Darcie Kate McNeill and Brian Lynn Morrison are charged with a number of prohibited and dangerous weapons offences. These include use of a prohibited weapon in a careless manner near Jordan River in 2007 and possession of a loaded Colt AR-15 rifle — the equivalent of an M16 assault rifle — without a licence or registration certificate. The offences are alleged to have taken place between Oct. 31 and Nov. 7, 2007.

A while back an Australian emailed me from his work email address asking me to provide instructions on how to build a suppressor. I replied that I thought they were illegal in Australia. He said he knew they were but really wanted one. Sheesh. I could have forwarded that email to his boss! (I didn’t).

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  • http://bit.ly/danny Danny

    Darn, they took it off. Do you know if the vid’s still available in another website? Thanks.

  • Ben Hutcheon

    Arn’t Suppressors “restricted” in the USA as well? Its hard for us down here to see what you get to play with there sometimes but I agree if your going to do something that might be breaking the law don’t post it to YouTube. Poor AR-15 it’s going to end up as paper clips now, what a waste.

  • Nat

    I have always referred to video or photos as evidence, no matter what they are showing. If I ever build my own weapons of non-legal status, you sure won’t find any videos of it on the poo-tube.

  • http://www.sinreg.blogspot.com John H.

    Idiot? Depends on what you mean.

    If you mean he went and dug his own grave by posting the video online, you’re right. He’s an idiot.

    If you mean he went and broke a terrible, life-wrecking law, then no, he’s not an idiot, he’s a better man than most.

  • Kyle Huff

    AR-15 is not a prohibited weapon in Canada. All AR-15 variants are classed “restricted firearm” by diktat. It is not legal to shoot “restricted” firearms outside of certified firing ranges. An AK-47 variant would have been prohibited. A Mini-14 is unrestricted, and would have been legal, unless the shooting was within 100 (IIRC) meters of a dwelling place.

    Also, it is firearm handlers that are licensed, not the firearms themselves. Firearms are registered.

    The Times Colonist seems to have grossly misreported the charges. I’ll see if I can dig up the actual charges.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Kyle, thanks. Would be interesting to know.

  • Crystal

    I was told that the civvie versions of an AR were legal in Canada? Restricted, but legal. I know this because I was looking into getting one before I got my CX4 storm. Does anyone know if the one he was shooting was a fully auto?

  • Kyle Huff

    OK, here’s the deal. The prohibited weapon in question was a MAC-10 variant. The couch in the video was shot while on a logging road. Generally, discharging firearms on or near roads is forbidden here in Canada, though I’m not sure logging roads count. The incident was about 600 meters from the nearest dwelling, but discharging a restricted firearm (as all AR-15 variants are) anywhere other than a certified range is illegal.

    I can’t tell if he’s licensed for restricted firearms (likely he is) or prohibited firearms (likely he is not), but as the MAC-10 has never been legal to own here, it obviously is unregistered and therefore being in possession of it is illegal.

    • Gordon Adams

      I do not know where you get your information but a Mac 10 can & has been registered in Canada as I have owed both the Mac 10 & the Mac 11. Both where legally registered to me for years & I enjoyed the hell out of them. People please check your facts before posting them on forms,everyone should be getting correct answers to their questions.

  • http://ridenshoot.blogspot.com Ride Fast

    It’s amazing to me that the level of stupid we keep discovering still amazes me.

    Recently a guy who was videoing himself driving at 120+ MPH speeds on public streets…and….selling the videos online was arrested… and…the video was used as evidence against him. Shocking!

  • http://calivc.com/forums/Solarforce-A-great-compact-and-light-weight-light-for-night-tim-t7211.html Heath

    I bet he doesn’t do that again any time soon.

  • Michael A Grant

    I have mentioned your Blog to friends and wow I appreciate all the great info and headsup on new and old products (gunsandammo) It is one of my passions and obviously your too. Thanks again Mike

  • http://www.fatwhiteman.com FatWhiteMan

    I felt so bad about this whole situation. Sure it was pretty dumb to video yourself breaking the law but it is a pretty retarded law. Then I read what the Canadians, Australians and Kalifornians had to say on these comments and I really became distraught. I thought I would go out 100m from my “dwelling” and shoot my AR-15. But it happened to be 7 degrees Fahrenheit this afternoon and I’m pretty fat and lazy being a free American and all. So instead, my unlicensed lazy butt opened the door to the side of my house, pointed my unregistered AR-15 rifle at a rock not on a authorized shooting range and unloaded a 30 round “high” capacity magazine while all the brass landed at my feet within my dwelling. I didn’t have a video camera to put it on YouTube but I could have since I was not breaking one silly law.

    My wife was pretty pissed but then you’ll have that from time to time.

  • Me

    FatWhiteMan, Kudos to you! You made me laugh. I had to read your post to my wife because it was so funny! Keep shooting-no matter what the stupid laws may eventually say! Its your right! Just don’t use up all of your ammo, you may need some later.

  • Edward

    No offense, but how is shooting at a rock a good thing?? (As opposed to shooting at, say, a steel plate, a sandbag, or another backstop.)

  • jedimarkus

    Interestingly enough, New Zealand has no restrictions on suppressors that I am aware of.

  • Fidget

    Whut the heck is a ‘registration certificate?’

  • Jack

    Fidget, Obama will explain that one to you.

  • Trav

    quite abit late, but basically our rules in canada are simple. Automatic weapons.. Prohibited. means only weapons dealers (military) can have them, or they need special goverment permission (we build our own military weapons, and yes, they are automatic). Semi auto weapons with 160mm or less barrels (ie handguns or carbines) are restricted. Handguns are limited to a 10 round clip, rifles 5. Un-restricted (a hilarious name because they are hugely restriced) weapons are semi-auto rifles with 5 or less rounds per clip. Bolt action rifles are unlimited clip, greater than 160mm barrel length. there are some other lame rules about handgun barrel lengths. Restricted weapons are only allowed in your home, unloaded, stored locked and seperate from your locked ammo. You must inform the police to transport your weapon. it must be locked in a case. Un-restricted weapons (ie you might reasonably use them to shoot a deer or other game) may be stored in the same manner, however you can shoot them almost wherever. They must be registered and the operator must be licensed.
    Bascially any invasion of Canada would be met with a hail of accurate large caliber rifle rounds.
    The rules are imho good, if poorly implemented. I can imagine what i would want an mp5 for. But a .308 win, bolt action w/ 10rnds. If shit hit the fan, i’m not leading a charge, merely protecting and feeding my family. that would fit the bill damn right. As opposed to any idiot (im sure lots of idiots fall through the cracks) having an mp5, i’m glad i cant get one.

    • Dave

      Trav,

      You do not have to inform the police when you transport a restricted weapon…that’s what a permit to transport is for. Also it is a MAGAZINE not a CLIP!!!

      • Joshua

        sort of, if your a member of a restricted certified gun club (I.E. pistol club), they can provide you with a piece of paper that allows you to transport your restricted firearms, not just handguns, freely to and from that range, Ontario has an additional clause, where you can use that to transport to any restricted certified range, so long as it’s on the list of eligible ranges, not sure if the other provinces have that one as well, but I know Ontario does. if you are not a member, or don’t have one of those pieces of paper, you must apply for a temporary transport permit, through the RCMP. in order to by restricted firearms you must be a member of a range you can shoot it at, but once you by it you can let you membership lapse and still keep the guns. also semi automatic rim fire rifles have no magazine restriction, despite being lethal at up to a mile, and having much higher magazine capacity for the same length magazine, and much cheaper ammo, they have no magazine restrictions, rimfire handguns still limited to 10 I believe, though now I think of it, I’m pretty sure my local dealer has a 12 shot 22 revolver for sale. and some semi autos are exempted from restricted status because of magazines, mostly guns Canada or the US used in WWII or before, hence we can have M1s with the original 8 capacity, despite the limit for semi autos being 5. all in all, complicated, and you’d better know it before you buy

  • mike

    It ant an assult rifle unless its capible of full auto if not its just a standard semi auto rifle

  • Nate

    In the US, suppressors are not really restricted, but they are unusual due to a set of National Firearms Act (Title II), which is also what governs automatic firearms and non-handgun weapons with barrels less than 16″ for rifles and less than 18″ for shotguns (one thing you Canadians have over us…). All these laws are left over from Prohibition, though they’ve mutated a bit over the years.

    The basic rules for suppressors are that you must be 21, you must get a $200 tax stamp for each one, and I believe they must be registered, though I am not sure of that.

    I’ll just let the BATFE* speak for themselves:
    “As you are aware, the terms “firearm silencer” and “firearm
    muffler” mean any device for silencing, muffling,
    or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination
    of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling
    or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended
    only for use in such assembly or fabrication. Thus, certain internal
    components, intended only for use in a silencer, are silencers as defined.

    If an individual made one of these parts, even for use as a
    replacement part, the individual would be making a silencer. Under
    the provisions of the National Firearms Act, any person must apply
    for and receive permission to make a silencer and pay the making
    tax for each silencer made. This would require the individual
    owner to file an ATF Form 1 application for each silencer part to
    be made with the payment of $200.00 for each application prior to
    making any replacement part.”

    Yes, theoretically, this could mean you need to register your finger, since it aided you in making the silencer. This is the same agency that declared once that shoestrings were machine gun components and thus needed to be registered.

    Why a noise control device is so heavily regulated on firearms, but mandated on automobiles, I will never figure out.

    The laws on short barreled weapons are so baffling that even I don’t fully understand them. Basically, a weapon with a stock and barrel under the limit for its respective type (rifle or shotgun) is a Short Barreled Rifle (or Shotgun), and needs the same tax stamp and everything that a suppressor does, since they are covered under the same law. Pistols are free to have barrels as long as you want them to, but as soon as you attach a stock or vertical foregrip, you have a rifle, and if the barrel on that pistol is less than 16″, you must undergo the process of SBRing it. Interestingly, shotguns with barrels less than 18″ that have never had a stock on them are classified as “Any Other Weapons” and are subject to only a $5 tax.

    *Our government firearms regulatory agency, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

  • Josh

    two major things wrong with this uninformed article, firstly it is not an assault rifle it is merely a semi-auto rifle and secondly the ar-15 is not “the equivalent” of an M16. Whoever wrote this article needs to learn a thing or two about fact checking before they embarrass themselves further.

  • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

    Jay.Mac, thanks for the tip!