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	<title>Comments on: PMAGS tested in cold conditions</title>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/09/pmags-tested-in-cold-conditions/#comment-4771</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure if I were to drop a steel AK mag feedlips first onto the ground it&#039;d be just fine, might damage the concrete though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure if I were to drop a steel AK mag feedlips first onto the ground it&#8217;d be just fine, might damage the concrete though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennersen</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/09/pmags-tested-in-cold-conditions/#comment-4765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bakelite magazines take the cold. I believe they are thermoldplastics? I know they are not metal, but I do not know what plastic they are made out of specifically. I would not make a statement saying plastics cannot handle x, y, or z. MagPul PMAGs may not stand up to it to well, but then again a PMAG is not a Soviet/Russian Bakelite, which is one of the reasons some AK fans do not think MagPul will ever make AK-47/74 magazines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bakelite magazines take the cold. I believe they are thermoldplastics? I know they are not metal, but I do not know what plastic they are made out of specifically. I would not make a statement saying plastics cannot handle x, y, or z. MagPul PMAGs may not stand up to it to well, but then again a PMAG is not a Soviet/Russian Bakelite, which is one of the reasons some AK fans do not think MagPul will ever make AK-47/74 magazines.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/09/pmags-tested-in-cold-conditions/#comment-4741</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes they do understand neo-marketing. You cannot believe how backward some of PR firms for firearm manufactures are. I was recently told by one PR firm, after requesting some info, that because I was not a &quot;writer&quot; they would give me access to press releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes they do understand neo-marketing. You cannot believe how backward some of PR firms for firearm manufactures are. I was recently told by one PR firm, after requesting some info, that because I was not a &#8220;writer&#8221; they would give me access to press releases.</p>
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		<title>By: jdun1911</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to admit Magpul understand the internet and AR15.com. Their damage control team is second to none. They never mentioned how long it was store at -30F nor did the video show the height of the magazine being dropped. Until independent testers do their own tests take it as a grain of salt. 

It is always fun to see fanboys going their way to defended favorite product. It&#039;s also fun to see fanboys from another completing product declaring their favorite product is better.

Don&#039;t get me wrong I own over 10 30 rounds magpul mag and 10 of their 20 rounds version. I have around 40 GI magazine (30 and 20 rounders) and 10 L5 lancer (30 rounds). 

I don&#039;t have a problem with Magpul&#039;s mags breaking up at those temperatures. It was expected because plastic become brittle in extreme cold and I treat all magazines as disposable items. What I have a problem is when people tries to hype a product that has known limitations.

Remember that plastic start deteriorating at the get go. The more it is exposed to the environment (UV) the faster it will deteriorate. 

BTW don&#039;t think about buying those $50 HK mags. Save your money because at those prices you expected more from it.
http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91413&amp;page=2
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=401646

Here is another thread on Pmag and cold:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=416124

Lancer L5 testing:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=409288

Off topic: The Smoking Bank Robber. Look like it came out of a movie.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&amp;f=5&amp;t=811123&amp;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to admit Magpul understand the internet and AR15.com. Their damage control team is second to none. They never mentioned how long it was store at -30F nor did the video show the height of the magazine being dropped. Until independent testers do their own tests take it as a grain of salt. </p>
<p>It is always fun to see fanboys going their way to defended favorite product. It&#8217;s also fun to see fanboys from another completing product declaring their favorite product is better.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong I own over 10 30 rounds magpul mag and 10 of their 20 rounds version. I have around 40 GI magazine (30 and 20 rounders) and 10 L5 lancer (30 rounds). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with Magpul&#8217;s mags breaking up at those temperatures. It was expected because plastic become brittle in extreme cold and I treat all magazines as disposable items. What I have a problem is when people tries to hype a product that has known limitations.</p>
<p>Remember that plastic start deteriorating at the get go. The more it is exposed to the environment (UV) the faster it will deteriorate. </p>
<p>BTW don&#8217;t think about buying those $50 HK mags. Save your money because at those prices you expected more from it.<br />
<a href="http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91413&amp;page=2" rel="nofollow">http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91413&amp;page=2</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=401646" rel="nofollow">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=401646</a></p>
<p>Here is another thread on Pmag and cold:<br />
<a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=416124" rel="nofollow">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=416124</a></p>
<p>Lancer L5 testing:<br />
<a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=409288" rel="nofollow">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&amp;f=17&amp;t=409288</a></p>
<p>Off topic: The Smoking Bank Robber. Look like it came out of a movie.<br />
<a href="http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&amp;f=5&amp;t=811123&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&amp;f=5&amp;t=811123&amp;page=1</a></p>
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